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31. This poster OVERTLY has a bias against Martin, doesn't even have the facts remotely straight even

Reply to noiretextatique (Reply #30)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:07 PM

Jul 2013

...though it's been widely talked about and covered on DU.

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I've never believed that Trayvon ran up on Z to throw the "first punch." [View all] MrScorpio Jul 2013 OP

Me neither. DanTex Jul 2013 #1

"bash his head into the sidewalk" - LOL, like that really happened anyway. MH1 Jul 2013 #12

one handed.. grahampuba Jul 2013 #49

Zimmerman is warped. A warped killer, no less. lumpy Jul 2013 #71

Exactly! SoapBox Jul 2013 #2

That "good heart" stuff is really twisted and scary. ananda Jul 2013 #3

Nobody who heads out into the streets with a loaded firearm, Maedhros Jul 2013 #46

truth heaven05 Jul 2013 #4

Don't forget Trayvon's Gansta Thug life SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #5

With his evil tattoos!1!! csziggy Jul 2013 #97

I heard he went skiing! That was the gateway sport. First Colorado powder... SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #99

And horseback riding! With his family! csziggy Jul 2013 #106

K&R. nt raccoon Jul 2013 #6

Even though people keep trying to tell me it doesn't matter... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #7

That's a perfectly valid point MrScorpio Jul 2013 #9

Which is why I say even I could have run a better prosecution Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #28

Yep! brush Jul 2013 #39

Zimmy went HUNTING. bvar22 Jul 2013 #17

I don't think that was the only time Z was hunting... Little Star Jul 2013 #27

Yes, Zimmerman was on the watch for prey. He notified authorities many many times that there lumpy Jul 2013 #74

"And he hasn't evaded going to prison yet." I have high hopes Z will be charged with a hate crime. Little Star Jul 2013 #75

Most decent people hope for that. lumpy Jul 2013 #78

And therein lies the difference BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #44

Purely in the interest of accuracy ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #62

he was already following t. when the dispatcher said that, running or walking quickly to keep up, HiPointDem Jul 2013 #70

Regardless of these particular details ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #88

you got the details wrong & you're saying others are resorting to BS? If it were me & the HiPointDem Jul 2013 #90

At least I admit I made a minor and largely irrelevant error brett_jv Jul 2013 #107

"It doesn't matter who was On Top." bobclark86 Jul 2013 #69

You make some good points. I have thought all along that Zimmerman may go free. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #79

But the asshole is a damned hero to many on the right. Kablooie Jul 2013 #110

I suspect most of that hero worship will be lip service only. Hopefully Zimmerman A Simple Game Jul 2013 #111

Then the Fucked Up Florida Law is WRONG, bvar22 Jul 2013 #84

EXACTLY my point. bobclark86 Jul 2013 #96

I think it was Zimmy who ran up to Trayvon and grabbed him, probably made threats, kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #8

and remember this? ewagner Jul 2013 #65

I agree Zimmerman was the aggresser from start to finish. I believe Zimmerman tried to 'arrest' lumpy Jul 2013 #76

Why wouldn't you assume the first to verbally confront wouldn't be the first to physically confront? dkf Jul 2013 #10

Because Zimmerman is at his core, a bully. MrScorpio Jul 2013 #14

The first verbal move..."why are you following me?" dkf Jul 2013 #19

Which one of those two statements sounds the most defensive... MrScorpio Jul 2013 #22

The initiation of verbal contact is the aggressive move. dkf Jul 2013 #25

bullshit...no matter how many times you claim it noiretextatique Jul 2013 #33

Independently, by their very nature, which is a defensive statement and which is aggressive? MrScorpio Jul 2013 #37

You've got to be kidding...no really, you've GOT to be kidding uponit7771 Jul 2013 #42

The initial aggressive move was... raindaddy Jul 2013 #47

Seems to be logical rufus dog Jul 2013 #48

Everything I have ever learned in a self-defense class WolverineDG Jul 2013 #50

bs grahampuba Jul 2013 #51

I continue John2 Jul 2013 #52

LOL RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #53

YAFOS Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #55

Bullshit. lumpy Jul 2013 #80

Trayvon also said "Get off, Get off". chowder66 Jul 2013 #57

Running from Zimmerman = first move?! You have OVERTLY have a bias on this issue uponit7771 Jul 2013 #18

First confrontation was verbal, initiated by Trayvon according to Rachel Jeantel's testimony. dkf Jul 2013 #20

The first confrontation was following and staring at a teen enough to make him uncomfortable. uppityperson Jul 2013 #23

From afar does not equal confronting. dkf Jul 2013 #26

Well then, that throws out your confrontation also. Evidence is Zimmy's words. uppityperson Jul 2013 #32

AFAR?! Zimmerman didn't get close to Martin in his car?! You're kidding me right?! Did you read any uponit7771 Jul 2013 #40

Zimmy followed Martin in his car, how slowly do you have to drive to do that? azurnoir Jul 2013 #72

asking a fucking question is not "confrontation" noiretextatique Jul 2013 #30

This poster OVERTLY has a bias against Martin, doesn't even have the facts remotely straight even uponit7771 Jul 2013 #31

He has been branching out from the "911 mosque" omg-ness. uppityperson Jul 2013 #35

of course this person is...and there are a few more noiretextatique Jul 2013 #36

The confrontation started with the repeated following of Trayvon for NO REASON AT ALL!!! I don' see uponit7771 Jul 2013 #38

Are you back again with this brush Jul 2013 #43

You are correct, Soundman Jul 2013 #59

There is little John2 Jul 2013 #64

Unfortunatly people don't always use common sense in coming to conclusions. lumpy Jul 2013 #81

As a person who has seen hundreds of Soundman Jul 2013 #104

Why won't you tell us what his motive was? reusrename Jul 2013 #113

I don't believe it for one instant! Bake Jul 2013 #11

Martin friend, he was on the phone with' said that Martin thought he had ditched Zimmerman. lumpy Jul 2013 #83

Me neither. Iggo Jul 2013 #13

zimmerman is practiced and unrepentant liar. considering the bullshit he tried to pull KG Jul 2013 #15

That's where I'm at. But some swallow Z's shit as the gospel truth. Little Star Jul 2013 #34

a liar datasuspect Jul 2013 #41

Z Defenders believe Zimmerman wanted to give Trayvon a big ol bear hug & tell him to keep his grades uponit7771 Jul 2013 #16

"Shit he's running" proof that Trayvon was not mzmolly Jul 2013 #21

Exactly BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #45

I believe Martin's friend's testimony was key to the truth. The defense succeded in squelching lumpy Jul 2013 #86

Recommend. John1956PA Jul 2013 #24

i never believed it either noiretextatique Jul 2013 #29

I can only think of a single reason why TM attacked first (if thats is what happened) Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #54

My thoughts exactly. SeaLyons Jul 2013 #87

The bigger the lie, the easier it is for the morons to believe. That Trayvon struck first is a valerief Jul 2013 #56

I disagree, I believe Trayvon attacked Zimmerman after he saw Zimmerman had a gun. DrewFlorida Jul 2013 #58

You know something? MrScorpio Jul 2013 #61

this handmade34 Jul 2013 #68

Zimmerman had John2 Jul 2013 #77

+1, In Zimmmermans walk through he even SAYS "I went for my cell phone" after seeing TM... uponit7771 Jul 2013 #85

I'd like to believe that ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #94

This x a million... PsychGrad Jul 2013 #60

But Not Beyond A Reasonable Doubt ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2013 #63

Yes first he ran then he came back and punched Zimmercop. mzmolly Jul 2013 #66

The problem is, we really don't know. brett_jv Jul 2013 #67

Everything John2 Jul 2013 #91

Not sure how any of what I mentioned is hearsay ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #102

The FBI didn't do a thorough investigation. They dropped the infinished investigtion when Florida lumpy Jul 2013 #92

I don't believe it either. Hubert Flottz Jul 2013 #73

you can explain til you mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #82

Yes, the gym owner got free advertizing by court testimony and he was certianly selling it. He was lumpy Jul 2013 #95

I have never heard that term used before. mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #98

He was tired of the creepy ass cracker stalking him krawhitham Jul 2013 #89

Despite conflicting stories of a physical fight. Rex Jul 2013 #93

Of course not. Because it's the most fucking unbelievable story I've ever heard in my life. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #100

Zimmerman caught up to him (from behind), grabbed his sweatshirt, and SoCalDem Jul 2013 #101

That is exactly what I thought went down. eilen Jul 2013 #109

Zimmerman was expecting a fight when he got out of the car Ohio Joe Jul 2013 #103

Why isn't there such thing as negligent homicide? SIBIndi Jul 2013 #105

I believe Zimmerman produced the gun in an effort to detain Trayvon Skittles Jul 2013 #108

And even if he had that is the part that is self-defense - TBF Jul 2013 #112