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In reply to the discussion: Wow! It sounds like the JUDGE, not the jury, may have freed Zimmerman. [View all]totodeinhere
(13,038 posts)122. I would not go that far. It is not reasonable to expect the jury to understand the complicated
nuances of the law and in most cases any jury will take a judge's instructions at face value. The fault here lies with the judge and I hope that she is sanctioned for malfeasance on the bench.
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Wow! It sounds like the JUDGE, not the jury, may have freed Zimmerman. [View all]
Kablooie
Jul 2013
OP
Is anyone here surprised by this response? Dunn's not getting justice? Wow!
Anansi1171
Jul 2013
#177
Yup, that's why now that we have confirmation that OJ killed Nicole, he can't be retried
tavalon
Jul 2013
#174
The only way a mistrial can be declared is if there is found to be jury misconduct...
Spazito
Jul 2013
#47
Yes, the instructions required the jury to be mind readers to come up with a "guilty" verdict
Warpy
Jul 2013
#170
So sad to hear about your loss.... People need to stop fighting with each other and start
midnight
Jul 2013
#197
Florida seems to have a low conviction rate compared to other large states.
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#199
There was a time when Duers did not find it necessary to insult fellow posters.
TheProgressive
Jul 2013
#65
Exactly - and since this trial can't be rendered invalid by that, there will be no mistrial. n/t
whopis01
Jul 2013
#133
The state bar can sanction her. But you are right. It is seldom done. n/t
totodeinhere
Jul 2013
#121
And the problem here is that if our justice system fails us, "Street justice" will happen more...
cascadiance
Jul 2013
#41
I disagree and I'll tell you why. 60 years ago there never would have been a trail.
Lochloosa
Jul 2013
#105
There is probably a very, very slim chance that the DoJ will file civil rights charges.
premium
Jul 2013
#160
No. George Zimmerman’s uncle is a Deputy Sheriff in Orange County, California
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#21
****BINGO**** The judge ROYALLY SCREWED UP!! Not only that but they weren't allowed to even
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#19
Yes, in essence, it is. If it is not in the jury instructions on what to consider...
Spazito
Jul 2013
#60
This is news? We've been discussing that all along, with the relevant statute.
X_Digger
Jul 2013
#25
FAIL. Muggers don't ever get a free pass on killing their victims, no matter how hard they fight bac
kestrel91316
Jul 2013
#98
Not to open up a can of SYG worms here, but it seems like the language about withdrawl in 2b...
JVS
Jul 2013
#78
The fact that you can call it stalking doesn't mean the judge can ignore the fact
onenote
Jul 2013
#134
If someone is behaving in a menacing manner you have a right to defend yourself.
reusrename
Jul 2013
#157
Zimmerman, by his own admission, also negelected to tell Martin he was neighborhood watch
SirRevolutionary
Jul 2013
#164
How is it not realistic? It is not unheard of a person trying to get the weapon out somebodies hand.
kidgie
Jul 2013
#181
I would not go that far. It is not reasonable to expect the jury to understand the complicated
totodeinhere
Jul 2013
#122
No. The buck stops with the jury. It's time we took responsibility for our criminal legislators shit
valerief
Jul 2013
#172
Prosecution and Defense spent a full day arguing over the jury instructions.
Ruby the Liberal
Jul 2013
#35
the so-called stand your ground statute Florida 776.013(3) was read word-for-word to the jury
rollin74
Jul 2013
#74
That would be for the Jury to decide. The fact it was decided by the judge doesn't seem appropriate.
Kablooie
Jul 2013
#69
It would be for the jury to decide only if the prosecution had made an attempt to show it.
onenote
Jul 2013
#141
Much like many DUers will always be convinced he was ethically right to shoot an unarmed man,
LanternWaste
Jul 2013
#93
This is what I've been trying to tell people. It was the judge who commanded that
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2013
#54
I don't think you explained very well. The prosecution seemed to be arguing
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2013
#158
If that is what the prosecution was arguing then they deserved to lose the motion
onenote
Jul 2013
#168
Maybe they did deserved to lose, but Zimmerman deserves to be behind bars.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2013
#171
The DOJ might be able to bring civil rights violation charges or a hate crime charge.
totodeinhere
Jul 2013
#125
The law does not allow the appeal of a not guilty verdict. That verdict is final
totodeinhere
Jul 2013
#140
After reading that link, I recall that exact moment when the Judge said that
Duer 157099
Jul 2013
#64
Interesting, but if what she's referring to is section 776.041 of defense law, then she is making..
JVS
Jul 2013
#70
Who is right: Burke's article, the blog she links to, or the FL website where the law is written?
JVS
Jul 2013
#101
You have not correctly described the standard for what it would take for Zimmerman to have been
onenote
Jul 2013
#150
Does anyone think that the fact that Zimmerman's dad was a judge has anything to do with this?
Matariki
Jul 2013
#92
Is anyone else disturbed by the number of DUers who claim to know enough about this case
onenote
Jul 2013
#153
I'm disturbed by the lack of awareness of how racism makes injustice like this possible
Matariki
Jul 2013
#190
It varies, but this one is in an elected position. Her term is up 2019. Long wait. n/t
whopis01
Jul 2013
#142
YES! and doing a GREAT job. syg WAS... WAS involved in the Jury instructions!!
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#137
When the judge allowed a minimal amount of weed in Trayvon's system to be introduced in
indepat
Jul 2013
#215
Its just the law... The Prosecution can't claim that Zimmerman's legal actions were provocation
Taitertots
Jul 2013
#216
HERE IS THE ACTION STEP - IMPEACH the JUDGE for violating the Code of Judicial Conduct
Tigress DEM
Jul 2013
#234