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CatWoman

(79,283 posts)
250. Something tells me
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jul 2013

you know an awful lot about wimps.

Do you think it's ok to shoot paper for giving paper cuts?

"...no injuries besides the gunshot wound" Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #1
I don't think he is required to. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #7
Yes burnodo Jul 2013 #12
You think that Martin would have been justified... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #18
According to your logic, absolutely Hugabear Jul 2013 #32
self defense apparently only applies to paranoid gun-humping racists, Hugabear Skittles Jul 2013 #45
Exactly! Notafraidtoo Jul 2013 #73
I honestly do believe it is racism Skittles Jul 2013 #79
I considered it until I heard that Zimmerman was safe inside his 2 ton steel vehicle, with locking GoneFishin Jul 2013 #274
Zimmerman used a Kel-Tec PF-9 which has no manual safety. ... spin Jul 2013 #283
Thanks for the information. GoneFishin Jul 2013 #285
No problem. (n/t) spin Jul 2013 #289
True. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #101
According to my logic... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #49
Zimmerman is the one who brought up race Hugabear Jul 2013 #55
Was the neighborhood that Zimmerman lived in Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2013 #212
No. Igel Jul 2013 #245
Just being beaten does not legally allow you to shoot someone. Just Saying Jul 2013 #56
Bingo Old Codger Jul 2013 #65
I'm pretty sure if you're being beaten... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #68
If Zimmerman hadn't been there, there'd be no problem burnodo Jul 2013 #76
What I said is what the law says. Just Saying Jul 2013 #111
Your reasoning only goes ONE WAY? What do you teach YOUR children? blm Jul 2013 #146
he's not naturally high, he's huffing paint thinner to be posting that shit. nt dionysus Jul 2013 #301
depends on what you mean by 'just being beaten' anomiep Jul 2013 #82
What percentage are assaulted with guns? Just Saying Jul 2013 #117
I'm not suggesting you 'buy into' anything anomiep Jul 2013 #171
Actually ctaylors6 Jul 2013 #183
So... deathrind Jul 2013 #71
It's worse DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #126
they have to be REASONABLY afraid of grievous bodily harm or death.... with a CREDIBLE bettyellen Jul 2013 #199
The evidence does not prove that Zimmrman was getting beaten to death. Rather an impossibity. lumpy Jul 2013 #204
Because he's a wimp? NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #239
Something tells me CatWoman Jul 2013 #250
Maybe that indicates that Martin feared a gun shot. lumpy Jul 2013 #292
If someone is stalking you at night with a gun... jberryhill Jul 2013 #278
Yes, at least until you have gotten away. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #280
My general understanding... jberryhill Jul 2013 #287
With a gun. Control-Z Jul 2013 #80
If George Zimmerman was a fit black guy who stalked a smaller white teenager and shot OregonBlue Jul 2013 #115
While I am not defending Zimmerman ... spin Jul 2013 #288
Are you certain that Z didn't already have that gun out for Martin to see? Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #135
Am I certain? Not at all. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #141
Agree, and I *do* doubt that Martin attacked him. Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #152
No, I don't think he had his gun out. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #158
Are you saying that two people don't struggle for a gun? Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #161
all WHAT injuries?????? CatWoman Jul 2013 #163
Until you've had the same injuries inflicted on you... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #168
i've been in fights and had injuries far, far worse than that bullshit CatWoman Jul 2013 #172
Good for you. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #176
you heaven05 Jul 2013 #209
You got that right...I have been if a few... slor Jul 2013 #277
A few little boo-boos that look more like a fight with a kitten, polly7 Jul 2013 #175
lol CatWoman Jul 2013 #190
His injuries are NOT consistent with his testimony Hugabear Jul 2013 #177
Grass stains on Z's jacket and T's knees at trial ksoze Jul 2013 #180
As one who has had such injuries inflicted on me I can tell you Dragonfli Jul 2013 #260
You are wasting time trying to have a discussion based on logic and reason BlueStreak Jul 2013 #181
Actually, BlueStreak, I have changed my opinion somewhat. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #211
There are certain things that common sense should tell us BlueStreak Jul 2013 #238
Very flawed logic Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #256
The flaw is in the Florida law, not in my reasoning. BlueStreak Jul 2013 #296
"Read more about Martin's background"? As if that somehow made killing him more justifiable? nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #300
Certainly you know that smoking pot makes one fair game for murder. EOTE Jul 2013 #315
I'm still waiting for the guy to explain what he meant. Somehow I don't think he will. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #319
I think he just realized just why looking into Trayvon's background made his murder acceptable. EOTE Jul 2013 #321
Martin wasn't beating zimmerman brush Jul 2013 #233
++ Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #298
So Zimmerman was justified in stalking and murdering an unarmed, innocent teen. EOTE Jul 2013 #314
Minor boo-boos are NOT an ass-kicking. tblue37 Jul 2013 #35
Trayvon wasn't Skittles, he was just carrying them. Scratches and a bump. I could have killed the bettyellen Jul 2013 #200
Huh? Your post doesn't make any sense in response to mine. tblue37 Jul 2013 #207
Sorry, Skittles is the name of our own beloved ass-kicker here at DU. bettyellen Jul 2013 #210
But you also imply that I think those ridiculous boo-boos are sufficient reason for tblue37 Jul 2013 #275
oh crap- I am so sorry- I meant "them" - yeah, I can see how messed up that was.... bettyellen Jul 2013 #279
please do this: Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #66
Uh...thanks for the advice. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #83
I really and truly wish you would put your mouth where your foot is CatWoman Jul 2013 #164
It just astonishes me how quick people are to believe Zim's every word. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #205
The point is that Zim's injuries were not consistent with his head being "bashed on the concrete." nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #189
Try it 20-30 times like zimmy claimed happened to him brush Jul 2013 #244
according to the law he had to be in a reasonable person's TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #108
So just make sure to get beaten severely... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #116
oh bullshit TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #156
Just FYI... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #162
not when they're inches away TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #195
You are LEGALLY WRONG about "shooting him in a less vital place" Lurks Often Jul 2013 #213
I guess you missed all the other things he could have done TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #220
This has nothing to do with the case. Lurks Often Jul 2013 #222
and I really don't care TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #230
Whether you care or not is irrelevant to me Lurks Often Jul 2013 #237
yet if he had done so Martin would be alive TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #242
What part of what you recommended is illegal is unclear to you? n/t Lurks Often Jul 2013 #247
lol CatWoman Jul 2013 #174
Do child safety instructors in your town teach kids to NOT fight when an adult stranger blm Jul 2013 #132
I certainly hope not. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #134
Then why accept Zimmerman's action as 'self-defense' while ignoring Trayvon's blm Jul 2013 #145
The two things are compatible. Igel Jul 2013 #254
I think the point being made is that Zimmerman could have used non-lethal force nyquil_man Jul 2013 #149
You are WRONG Lurks Often Jul 2013 #214
Ah, but I thought Zimmerman's argument was that he DID fear grave bodily harm or death? nyquil_man Jul 2013 #215
Pathetic rebuttal Lurks Often Jul 2013 #221
So Zimmerman can kill someone who's trying to kill him nyquil_man Jul 2013 #223
You find me the law that allows intentional wounding with a deadly weapon n/t Lurks Often Jul 2013 #224
You said it yourself, Lurks. nyquil_man Jul 2013 #228
This has nothing to do with the Zimmerman case Lurks Often Jul 2013 #234
I'm talking about the Zimmerman case. You're off on another of your ill-informed fantasies. nyquil_man Jul 2013 #243
If he intentionally shot Martin in the leg or arm without Lurks Often Jul 2013 #246
It's illegal to shoot anybody anywhere without a reasonable cause. nyquil_man Jul 2013 #248
What part of what you recommended is illegal is unclear to you? n/t Lurks Often Jul 2013 #249
What part of shooting someone in the chest is illegal is unclear to you? nt nyquil_man Jul 2013 #251
It is illegal if a jury finds the claim of self defense not justified by the evidence Lurks Often Jul 2013 #252
Spare me. nyquil_man Jul 2013 #294
Here. Have some context. nyquil_man Jul 2013 #253
So then all any murderer would need to do is give themselves a couple scratches... Marrah_G Jul 2013 #191
He had already called the cops and knew they were on their way treestar Jul 2013 #311
sort of reminds me of when azurnoir Jul 2013 #60
Or, we were safer when W Control-Z Jul 2013 #99
I knew someone who later admitted to hitting her face with her car door to win a DV claim. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2013 #170
I won't say he is innocent, but if I was on the Jury, I would find him not guilty. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #2
based on what? Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #70
Reasonable doubt Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #90
Do you believe Zimmerman's story in its entirety? Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #114
I've listened to the majority of the trial. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #123
That's not the legal standard in play anomiep Jul 2013 #178
if the jury doesn't believe his story beyond a reasonable doubt, the prosecution makes a great deal Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #297
Regardless anomiep Jul 2013 #299
The scratches that did not require a trip to the ER JanMichael Jul 2013 #3
Very minor boo-boos--not even worth a bandaid! Please my post #35 above. nt tblue37 Jul 2013 #38
My god Natural Duckwraps Jul 2013 #4
Yeah, I know. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #13
so you're not even gonna respond to people? Skittles Jul 2013 #50
I can't respond to everyone, Skittles... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #58
oh yes you CAN Skittles Jul 2013 #75
Think what you want about what I should do. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #78
LOLOL Skittles Jul 2013 #89
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #72
LOL - you already know Skittles Jul 2013 #88
Check the mirror, maybe. [n/t] stranger81 Jul 2013 #92
I said so months ago and got kicked off the board for it. Hush now don' t say a word. nt Duckwraps Jul 2013 #63
AWWWWWWWWW you poor baby Skittles Jul 2013 #94
So who are you a sockpuppet of? You DO know that if you get kicked off you are kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #95
Ahh I fibbed. Duckwraps Jul 2013 #100
Tombstones are permanent burnodo Jul 2013 #129
He would feel more comfortable at stormfront./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #139
probably this jagoff's third or fourth time around frylock Jul 2013 #206
All I can say is some of you really put a low price on a life. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #5
On black life, anyway. stranger81 Jul 2013 #84
+ Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #186
He killed someone BainsBane Jul 2013 #6
Has someone hacked into a bunch of old DU user accounts? NightWatcher Jul 2013 #8
A lot of people keep a spare set of socks in the drawer. bluedigger Jul 2013 #61
The OP has over 5000 posts BainsBane Jul 2013 #142
Don't be fooled. Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #154
well that's another matter BainsBane Jul 2013 #155
How do they do that? displacedtexan Jul 2013 #196
So profiling, following, countingbluecars Jul 2013 #9
Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin burnodo Jul 2013 #10
He was armed and he picked a fight BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #11
I don't think TM inflicted those injuries on GZ notadmblnd Jul 2013 #14
This wasn't about Stand Your Ground Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #15
+1 And before that it was about mind your own fucking business. Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #27
and after that it was tell the goddam truth Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #77
By Florida law? Very possibly not guilty. But from a moral standpoint? Guilty. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #16
I looked at those "injuries" and I thought MADem Jul 2013 #17
I would have considered it - if he had come up with a better story that wasn't full of holes. (nt) Nine Jul 2013 #19
++ Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #81
Your OP forgot to mention he is a proven liar. n/t Little Star Jul 2013 #20
we do care - very much TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #21
Yes, it's about the evidence. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #53
Cognitive disonance isn't just for Teabaggers anymore. 99Forever Jul 2013 #22
I disagree. I think it's still just for Teabaggers. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2013 #316
Scratches or small cuts on the head area bleed like crazy. Tx4obama Jul 2013 #23
had he not gotten out of his truck NOTHING would be happening. He murdered that boy sad-cafe Jul 2013 #24
Where are the grass stains on Trayvon's pants knees? Hugabear Jul 2013 #25
And wouldn't the back of Z's Control-Z Jul 2013 #120
Apparently both were wearing high tech anti stain clothing Hugabear Jul 2013 #124
Right here in discovery evidence ksoze Jul 2013 #194
Still that doesn't prove anything Hugabear Jul 2013 #201
Than why post BS? ksoze Jul 2013 #208
Hooey otohara Jul 2013 #26
I've considered it. Just Saying Jul 2013 #28
I've followed the trial and considered all the same facts. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #36
And I would vote guilty murder 2 Just Saying Jul 2013 #43
florida law... handmade34 Jul 2013 #143
of course heaven05 Jul 2013 #261
I think Z pulled his gun Control-Z Jul 2013 #130
Right there with you. Just Saying Jul 2013 #147
why does self defense only apply to Zimmerman??? Skittles Jul 2013 #29
He is a contemptible person. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #30
Yes, Zimmerman is a loser. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #236
He's Guilty As HELL!!! ThePhilosopher04 Jul 2013 #31
The fact that he could have Spirochete Jul 2013 #33
THESE boo-boos? tblue37 Jul 2013 #34
Yep, those ... ThePhilosopher04 Jul 2013 #39
People are amazing. They act as though those little scratches, which are not even worth putting a tblue37 Jul 2013 #47
Those and the ones taken at the scene with the bloody nose. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #40
OMG, a bloody nose! Hugabear Jul 2013 #44
I remember you. You claimed to be an expert on high altitude rescue at one point a JanMichael Jul 2013 #51
I claimed to be an expert on high-altitude rescue? NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #106
no, just this one right now JanMichael Jul 2013 #119
Head and face injuries bleed heavily because the face and tblue37 Jul 2013 #52
So what? Even if Martin was striking Zimmerman, it was MARTIN that every right to defend himself. npk Jul 2013 #69
Looks Like Mosquito Bites He Scratched Too Much otohara Jul 2013 #107
No. Iggo Jul 2013 #37
tm wasn't stalking gz. imo, if tm did, in fact, attack gz, he acted in self defense. ellenfl Jul 2013 #41
Sure, but it's clear that all Zim had to do to "defend" himself... polichick Jul 2013 #42
+1 Just Saying Jul 2013 #46
Not me. polly7 Jul 2013 #48
Considered It, Sir, And Dismissed It, On the Basis Of Facts Known The Magistrate Jul 2013 #54
I was in an accident and broke my nose when I was fifteen. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #62
and being stalked by a paranoid gun-toting cop-wannabe loser isn't? Skittles Jul 2013 #102
Which would matter if Martin JoePhilly Jul 2013 #105
+1, Zimmermans own family physician called his injuries superficial uponit7771 Jul 2013 #151
No. Stalking and killing an innocent kid makes him a murderer. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #57
did you watch the trial? Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #59
Part of it... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #86
well.. I urge you to watch the prosecution closing(s) if you can make the time. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #112
I'll try to find it on Youtube. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #219
I didn't have an opinion when the story first became public. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #64
Zimmerman will face civil liability out the wazoo probably. gulliver Jul 2013 #67
I believe there are several Duckwraps Jul 2013 #93
He's been guilty ever since he stepped out of his vehicle with his gun 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #74
Yep, no injuries except the gunshot wound. noamnety Jul 2013 #85
There are six people considering it right now customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #87
Everyone thought about it and ruled it out based on the facts. Pretty simple. DevonRex Jul 2013 #91
In principle - all accused have to be presumed Innocent with the burden on the prosecution to prove Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #96
I considered it 'til I saw the evidence. Then I knew he wasn't. Jim__ Jul 2013 #97
I feel like the jury is best ctaylors6 Jul 2013 #98
Thanks for a thoughtful post... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #133
There's not ctaylors6 Jul 2013 #276
"that doesnt make him a murderer" darkangel218 Jul 2013 #103
Manslaughter MFM008 Jul 2013 #104
Zimmerman and his name will be forever associated with murder katmondoo Jul 2013 #109
Nearly EVERYTHING that GZ said was 100% BULLSHIT dorkzilla Jul 2013 #110
"Oooops." Is that really enough? A paranoid maniac follows you, provoking a confrontation ecstatic Jul 2013 #113
Here is the reason why I think Zimmerman is guilty.... all american girl Jul 2013 #118
If a person will lie about one thing... kentuck Jul 2013 #121
I don't think the prosecutor will be able to prove the charges against him. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #122
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #125
There is a strong manslaughter case. Read today's Miami Herald editorial by the lawyer. RBInMaine Jul 2013 #166
Considering that much of the evidence presented on DU Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #127
Sorry, no excuse for shooting that unarmed kid. Too bad he thought he was covered under laws. Hoyt Jul 2013 #128
If he's not guilty, then Florida should get ready for a lot fewer tourists. displacedtexan Jul 2013 #131
Dream on ksoze Jul 2013 #138
I do think he's guilty of manslaughter... cynatnite Jul 2013 #136
So I take it that you believe the story of Zimmerman... Someone who's a proven liar MrScorpio Jul 2013 #137
... KG Jul 2013 #140
Agree! Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #144
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2013 #293
+1000. nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #159
Ya, I believe that liar is not guilty and I also arthritisR_US Jul 2013 #148
Martin might have become the aggressor rrneck Jul 2013 #150
Why do you believe Martin was hotheaded? nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #157
I understand he had a history of fighting. rrneck Jul 2013 #173
Thanks for the reply. polly7 Jul 2013 #179
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #153
I don't think it's like the Duke Lacrosse case Nevernose Jul 2013 #160
I appreciate your response. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #217
He wanted to hold Trayvon down for the Police. When Trayvon resisted, Zimmerman shot him. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #165
He held Trayvon down while on the bottom? ksoze Jul 2013 #169
It wasn't looking good for Zimmerman, then the defense did this... TheBlackAdder Jul 2013 #167
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #185
Good question. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #272
He killed a boy intaglio Jul 2013 #182
The injuries that were so minor that the Medical Examiner said all they required was a bandaid? yardwork Jul 2013 #184
Yeah - the ones that his wife put fingertip bandaids on Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #187
+1 n/t Gormy Cuss Jul 2013 #232
After hearing the 911 calls I felt he was guilty Marrah_G Jul 2013 #188
Yes, I have given him the benefit of the doubt. The more I have followed the trial the more I"m lumpy Jul 2013 #192
In short, you don't take a gun to a fist fight... KansDem Jul 2013 #193
I've considered it, and then I discounted that possibility Generic Brad Jul 2013 #197
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #198
There are other things Z could have done Ilsa Jul 2013 #202
Very briefly, perhaps. But the evidence against him is fairly overwhelming, from my vantage point. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #203
At least one. Sean Hannity. KamaAina Jul 2013 #216
"Why do so many people not care about the circumstances...?" Because not all agree with YOU?! WinkyDink Jul 2013 #218
Of course not everyone agrees with me. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #225
It's your question that was arrogant and obnoxious. Nine Jul 2013 #258
Until the jury comes back otherwise, I have. flvegan Jul 2013 #226
Thoughtful response. Thank you. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #231
If its legal to shoot and kill someone just because you are losing a fight... DCBob Jul 2013 #227
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #282
Not me! KT2000 Jul 2013 #229
Some here think he is. Rex Jul 2013 #235
It's Zimmerman's guilt in starting the conflict in the first place cpwm17 Jul 2013 #240
Your post is indicative of how the case has been portrayed... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #257
You are right that he was convicted long ago by many. When there's no need. Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #241
Nope. The nose injury could have happened when the gun avebury Jul 2013 #255
If he hadn't gotten out of his car, he wouldn't have gotten a bloody nose. pacalo Jul 2013 #259
He is guilty Sienna86 Jul 2013 #262
Z's guilty. Manslaughter at least. Owl Jul 2013 #263
Zimmerman is a murderer and his wounds were superficial. Apophis Jul 2013 #264
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #281
I'm not defending him as a person. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #284
You're now ignored. Apophis Jul 2013 #290
I have considered it a number of times Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #265
Zimmerman shoots Martin. Martin is dead. LWolf Jul 2013 #266
You know that's not exactly how the law works, right? NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #268
And I bet you don't even know why your comparison is disgusting. nt. polly7 Jul 2013 #269
It's self defense in either case. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #270
I know how the law works. LWolf Jul 2013 #273
I Only think Zimmerman is not guilty if.... brettdale Jul 2013 #267
You might want to study the concept of self defense. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #271
Haven't really considered it. Deep13 Jul 2013 #286
Those facts are not in dispute. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #291
I'd let him go. musical_soul Jul 2013 #295
We get it, according to you, black people have no right to self defense. Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #302
BS...I said nothing of the sort. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #303
Except Martin, of course. n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #305
he's a murderer. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #304
Impossible. The evidence all points to at least manslaughter. duffyduff Jul 2013 #306
Many of us told DU the case was weak LittleBlue Jul 2013 #307
If Trayvon Martin had jumped Zimmerman's vehicle with Zimmerman in it, and Trayvon had a gun anobserver2 Jul 2013 #308
Since when can't a 32 yr old man take as ass beating?? I don't care if Trayvon Pisces Jul 2013 #309
Legally, that 32-year-old male... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #310
What part of "Zimmerman started it" don't you understand? The altercation was entirely due to him. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #320
I don't for an instant believe he's completely innocent. RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #312
This post is CRAP. Agschmid Jul 2013 #313
i have considered that Zimmerman is not guilty tiny elvis Jul 2013 #317
Maybe if there had been a thorough mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2013 #318
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