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In reply to the discussion: What Greenwald said vs Reuters summary of what he said: [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)38. Glenn Greenwald: "Snowden has information to cause more damage."
The journalist who received the leaks from a CIA mole says there are more documents
by Alberto Armendariz, The Nation, Saturday, July 13, 2013
RIO DE JANEIRO -- Appearances deceive. With his striped swimsuit, white flip-flops, jean shirt and a great backpack, Glenn Greenwald looks likt a tourist walking along the Sao Conrado in Rio de Janeiro. But he's a trader, a journalist, blogger and columnist for the British daily, The Guardian who surprised the world with the revelations about the extensive computer spy network of the United States, filtered by Edwdard Snowden, the ex-intelligence analyst of the National Security Agency (NSA).
"Snowden has enough information with which to cause more damage to the government of the United States in one single minute by himself than any other person has had in the entire history of the United States," Greenwald, 46, affirmed to The Nation, and who, from these latitudes, writes regularly on the issues of international security that have made him into a celebrity, the winner of various distinguished awards.
Today, this New Yorker, ex-lawyer, is in the eye of the storm. Legislators in Washington want to bring him to trial; spies of various nations look to obtain the secret information that Snowden shared with him, the heaviest, in Hong Kong and that he continues sending from Moscow via a system of encrypted electonic mail. He knows that he's being surveilled and that his conversations are monitored. This includes the theft of his laptop from his boyfriend, from their own home.
Three men wait in the lobby of the hotel Royal Tulip with credentials from a symposium on osteoporosis, a meeting of which the (hotel) concierge has no idea. Are they really doctors or are they following Greenwald? Appearances deceive.
Q: Share with us about Snowden's decision to stay in Russian while awaiting to come to Latin America?
Yes, the most important thing is not to end up in the custody of the United States, whose government has demonstrated to be extremely vengeful in punishing those who reveal inconvenient truth, and whose judicial system can't be trusted when it treats people accused of putting the nation's security at risk; the judges do all tehy can to secure convictions in those cases. He would be imprisoned immediately to pt a stop on debate he helped start, and he'd finish the rest of his days behind bars.
Q: Has Russia guaranteed his security?
There aren't many countries on planet earth that have the capacity and the desire to challenge the demands of the United States. However, Russia is one of those states and has treated him well up to now.
Q: Beyond the revelations about the functioning of the spy system in general, what additional information does Snowden have?
Snowden has enough information with which to cause more damage to the government of the United States in one single minute by himself than any other person has had in the entire history of the United States. But that is not his objective. His objective is to reveal computer programs that persons around the whole world use without knowing that they are being watched and without having consciously agreed to giving up their right to privacy. He has an enormous quantity of documents that would be most damaging to the government of the United States shoudl they be made public.
Q: Is he afraid someone will try to kill him?
That is a possibility, although I do not think that would be of much benefit to anyone at this point. He's distributed thousands of documents and has ensured that various people around the world has his complete archive. Should something happent to him, those documents would be made public. That's his insurance police. The government of the United States should be on its knees every day praying that nothing happens to Snowde, because if something should happen to him, all the informatjion would be revealed and that would make for their worst nightmare.
Q: Could Latin America provide a good place of refuge for Snowden?
Only certain countries, such as various countries in Latin American, China and Russia, have challenged the United States, they have noticed that the United States no longer is in a position of power that it previously had before the rest of the world, and that the rest of the nations no longer have to obey its demands as if they were under imperial orders. In Latin America there is a natural affinity for the United States, but at the same time there is a great resentment for specific historic policies made from Washington for the region. What happened with the aircraft carryign Evo Morales from Europe provoked a very strong reaction, it was as if Bolivia were treated as a colony and not as a sovereign state.
Q: Of the documents Snowden shared with you, is there much more information relating to Latin America?
Yes. For each nation that has an advanced system of communications, which is the case from Mexico to Argentina, there are documents that detail how the United States picks up information from the flow, the program that are used to capture the transmissions, the amount of information intercepted that are accomplished each day, and much more. One form of intercepting communications is through a United States telecommunications company that has contracts with most of the nations in Latin America. The important thing will be to see what is the reaction of the different governments. I don't believe the governments of Mexico and Colombia will do much in this regard. Perhaps, however, the governments of Argentina and Venezuela will be inclined to take concrete actions.
Translated by Octafish -- Sorry if there are any mistakes. Please let me know and I'll correct.
SOURCE: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1600674-glenn-greenwald-snowden-tiene-informacion-para-causar-mas-dano
GOT some help from: http://www.spanishdict.com/translation
by Alberto Armendariz, The Nation, Saturday, July 13, 2013
RIO DE JANEIRO -- Appearances deceive. With his striped swimsuit, white flip-flops, jean shirt and a great backpack, Glenn Greenwald looks likt a tourist walking along the Sao Conrado in Rio de Janeiro. But he's a trader, a journalist, blogger and columnist for the British daily, The Guardian who surprised the world with the revelations about the extensive computer spy network of the United States, filtered by Edwdard Snowden, the ex-intelligence analyst of the National Security Agency (NSA).
"Snowden has enough information with which to cause more damage to the government of the United States in one single minute by himself than any other person has had in the entire history of the United States," Greenwald, 46, affirmed to The Nation, and who, from these latitudes, writes regularly on the issues of international security that have made him into a celebrity, the winner of various distinguished awards.
Today, this New Yorker, ex-lawyer, is in the eye of the storm. Legislators in Washington want to bring him to trial; spies of various nations look to obtain the secret information that Snowden shared with him, the heaviest, in Hong Kong and that he continues sending from Moscow via a system of encrypted electonic mail. He knows that he's being surveilled and that his conversations are monitored. This includes the theft of his laptop from his boyfriend, from their own home.
Three men wait in the lobby of the hotel Royal Tulip with credentials from a symposium on osteoporosis, a meeting of which the (hotel) concierge has no idea. Are they really doctors or are they following Greenwald? Appearances deceive.
Q: Share with us about Snowden's decision to stay in Russian while awaiting to come to Latin America?
Yes, the most important thing is not to end up in the custody of the United States, whose government has demonstrated to be extremely vengeful in punishing those who reveal inconvenient truth, and whose judicial system can't be trusted when it treats people accused of putting the nation's security at risk; the judges do all tehy can to secure convictions in those cases. He would be imprisoned immediately to pt a stop on debate he helped start, and he'd finish the rest of his days behind bars.
Q: Has Russia guaranteed his security?
There aren't many countries on planet earth that have the capacity and the desire to challenge the demands of the United States. However, Russia is one of those states and has treated him well up to now.
Q: Beyond the revelations about the functioning of the spy system in general, what additional information does Snowden have?
Snowden has enough information with which to cause more damage to the government of the United States in one single minute by himself than any other person has had in the entire history of the United States. But that is not his objective. His objective is to reveal computer programs that persons around the whole world use without knowing that they are being watched and without having consciously agreed to giving up their right to privacy. He has an enormous quantity of documents that would be most damaging to the government of the United States shoudl they be made public.
Q: Is he afraid someone will try to kill him?
That is a possibility, although I do not think that would be of much benefit to anyone at this point. He's distributed thousands of documents and has ensured that various people around the world has his complete archive. Should something happent to him, those documents would be made public. That's his insurance police. The government of the United States should be on its knees every day praying that nothing happens to Snowde, because if something should happen to him, all the informatjion would be revealed and that would make for their worst nightmare.
Q: Could Latin America provide a good place of refuge for Snowden?
Only certain countries, such as various countries in Latin American, China and Russia, have challenged the United States, they have noticed that the United States no longer is in a position of power that it previously had before the rest of the world, and that the rest of the nations no longer have to obey its demands as if they were under imperial orders. In Latin America there is a natural affinity for the United States, but at the same time there is a great resentment for specific historic policies made from Washington for the region. What happened with the aircraft carryign Evo Morales from Europe provoked a very strong reaction, it was as if Bolivia were treated as a colony and not as a sovereign state.
Q: Of the documents Snowden shared with you, is there much more information relating to Latin America?
Yes. For each nation that has an advanced system of communications, which is the case from Mexico to Argentina, there are documents that detail how the United States picks up information from the flow, the program that are used to capture the transmissions, the amount of information intercepted that are accomplished each day, and much more. One form of intercepting communications is through a United States telecommunications company that has contracts with most of the nations in Latin America. The important thing will be to see what is the reaction of the different governments. I don't believe the governments of Mexico and Colombia will do much in this regard. Perhaps, however, the governments of Argentina and Venezuela will be inclined to take concrete actions.
Translated by Octafish -- Sorry if there are any mistakes. Please let me know and I'll correct.
SOURCE: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1600674-glenn-greenwald-snowden-tiene-informacion-para-causar-mas-dano
GOT some help from: http://www.spanishdict.com/translation
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I posted the original interview. You know the original interview that Reuters cherry picked.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#4
Reuters did not post the entire paragraphs. They cherry picked two sentences
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#17
They did not use ellipses. They did not change the meaning. No context makes Greewald sound rational
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#20
LOL! There is no context that makes the paragraph reasonable. It's not like they used ellipses.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#13
It is crazy. It's also interesting to see how angry so many DUers have become these days.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#28
Greenwald's flaming out. All the King's Horses and All the King's Men can't fix this.
MjolnirTime
Jul 2013
#26
he gave the chinese the IP addresses of us hack targets and specific information as to which
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#48
He deserves a medal for exposing the trashing of the Constitution by our own government.
woo me with science
Jul 2013
#57
That's not the point. No matter what revenge our government may exact on Snowden,
woo me with science
Jul 2013
#61
He didn't reveal how only the fact that we hacked CIVILIAN computer systems...
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#51
Thank you. I was starting to translate this article when I got interrupted by some
Cleita
Jul 2013
#32
Here is what I don't get. Doesn't such a pronouncement make Mr. Snowden less safe?
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#43
Thanks for taking time. It's been unbelievable watching the smear machine at work n/t
Catherina
Jul 2013
#46
Of course it is a threat. It's conditional... kill me and I will harm you.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#54
The Reuters article did not make it clear that the threat was conditional.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#63
No, it is "kill me and I will harm the US." So anyone wanting to harm the US just has to kill him
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#60
As already revealed, he has info on other countries complicity with surveillance...
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#64