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pampango

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36. If there are going to be high and environmental standards in the agreement then there has to be
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:55 AM
Jul 2013

a mechanism to prevent countries from subsequently ignoring them on the basis of 'national sovereignty'. The makeup of these tribunals will be important.

In the EU they tend to be liberal and force reluctant governments to live up to labor and environmental commitments. It will be important that such bodies in the TPP be the same. The negotiations are not finished. What has been leaked may or may not be representative of the final agreement.

The NAFTA tribunals may rule in favor of corporations 70% of the time. Do you have a guess as to how often American courts rule in favor of corporations? My guess is a lot hire percentage than that. Should any TPP board be even better. Yes.

My reading of the comments of senators Warren, Sanders and Brown are that they oppose the secrecy ("transparency record&quot of the negotiations not the negotiations themselves.

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #1
Thank You For Keeping Us Informed cantbeserious Jul 2013 #2
"Why don't you smelly proles just STFU and sit down." - Your Corporate Masters, Inc. Berlum Jul 2013 #3
k/r marmar Jul 2013 #4
knr forestpath Jul 2013 #5
So-called free trade talks should be in the public, not corporate interest dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #6
Dr. Stiglitz is a master of understatement, but perhaps that will help cali Jul 2013 #8
How about giving $100 billion in UN climate funds to corporations, instead of to nations? merrily Jul 2013 #7
Rejected by UN as stated in that article dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #9
Yes, but it is what the US wanted done. merrily Jul 2013 #13
Trade Agreements are not about trade. They're a bill of corporate rights and protections cali Jul 2013 #10
Yep. Same is true of many US laws and regulations. merrily Jul 2013 #14
These liars know what they are doing is creating permanent corporate overlords fasttense Jul 2013 #11
I'll go with: Volaris Jul 2013 #18
It's interesting who doesn't post in threads about this cali Jul 2013 #12
small people can only swing at low-hanging fruit KG Jul 2013 #16
Some tried on another thread about the TPP. merrily Jul 2013 #17
Reposting ProSense Jul 2013 #19
care to comment on some of what we know is in the TPP? cali Jul 2013 #20
There is too much discussion of strong environmental and labor standards according to the pampango Jul 2013 #24
sorry but you're quoting the far right Heritage Foundation and they fucking lie. cali Jul 2013 #25
If the right's discomfort with the inclusion of labor rights and environmental standards is not pampango Jul 2013 #28
they are lying. there aren't significant labor rights included as far as anyone can discern cali Jul 2013 #29
Sanders, Warren, Brown and other liberals think there are labor and environmental standards pampango Jul 2013 #31
want to actually respond to the tribunal system that is part of cali Jul 2013 #33
If there are going to be high and environmental standards in the agreement then there has to be pampango Jul 2013 #36
This isn't a trade agreement with the EU cali Jul 2013 #37
Remember this from the 2008 primary season? PufPuf23 Jul 2013 #42
I'd forgotten that. cali Jul 2013 #46
Maybe it's because of your track record with predictions and the truth in general. great white snark Jul 2013 #32
uh, carp away, snarker. I've provided lots and lots of facts- cali Jul 2013 #38
Cali, you have been making great posts in recent months, my kudos. PufPuf23 Jul 2013 #43
K&R n/t jtuck004 Jul 2013 #15
Cali, you are fast becoming NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #21
aw, shucks. cali Jul 2013 #26
Absolutely! Catherina Jul 2013 #34
We live under Corporate Rule - "democracy" is a PR ploy to keep people hoping,. Civilization2 Jul 2013 #22
"Stop supporting your oppressors". +1 Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #44
But don't you DARE call a Democratic President a corporate stooge. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #23
Give us 'bootlickers' a chance to wake up and get going on a Saturday morning. pampango Jul 2013 #27
What factual basis is there to say that these people aren't corporatists? MrSlayer Jul 2013 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author cali Jul 2013 #30
This is a nightmare. These corporations will reign supreme in legal matters Catherina Jul 2013 #35
Zach Carter and David Johnson are great resources on this issue cali Jul 2013 #39
Chile's TPP Negotiator Quits, Warns Citizens - commits career suicide to warn people Catherina Jul 2013 #41
Global fascism - the World's dream? NOTT!!!!! n/t cascadiance Jul 2013 #45
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