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Germans illuminate message on US embassy [View all] Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 OP
Merkel rejects Stasi comparisons and defends data interception Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #1
Yah, but...Merkel is a good German. HereSince1628 Jul 2013 #69
Of course she would, there have been some questions about her own background sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #74
Good one! Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #2
You do know who that slob pictured on the slide is? MADem Jul 2013 #10
Oh, because that's what's important in this story Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #14
You are showing your complete lack of knowledge with your response to me. MADem Jul 2013 #18
Thanks for proving my point Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #25
I didn't prove your point. You didn't understand the issue. nt MADem Jul 2013 #28
Cloud storage is not theft of intellectual property. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #20
Please--when what's in the "cloud" are movies that haven't been released to DVD yet, MADem Jul 2013 #29
You'd find the same on YouTube, for instance. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #30
It did not "incidentally happen to use his face." He was IN ON IT. MADem Jul 2013 #33
See it your own way. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #37
I'll "see it" based on the picture of the bootlegger projected on the building. MADem Jul 2013 #40
I did better than that MADem, I went to his Twitter page Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #43
Really? What did you see that was "different?" You're saying he didn't steal intellectual property? MADem Jul 2013 #46
Um... Who gives a shit about downloaded movies? leeroysphitz Jul 2013 #90
1992 called and wants their "Blah blah called and wants blah blah back" line back... MADem Jul 2013 #91
you can haz all my copyritz? lol.. nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #96
What, no Nazi references? Those would get that assclown arrested! MADem Jul 2013 #3
NPR too which I added for your acceptance Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #4
I've no doubt NPR copied it from RT... MADem Jul 2013 #6
Are you being sarcastic? Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #8
That's not what I said--but good "dense" (your word, own it) interpretation. MADem Jul 2013 #12
he's protected by Godwin's Law markiv Jul 2013 #5
You can't say that "N" word in Germany--they'll arrest you in "Stasi-like" fashion. MADem Jul 2013 #7
they try to stamp out nazi-dom, with a nazi jack boot markiv Jul 2013 #15
It isn't illegal to say the word Nazi in Germany. It's illegal to be a Nazi Solly Mack Jul 2013 #75
I think they use that "Stasi" word as a sneaky substitute, for the purposes of insulting people... MADem Jul 2013 #80
Jesus Christ, that is not Godwin's Law. How many times must I explain this? Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #11
And it's not a law, but that doesn't matter when you're tasked with trying to defend Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #17
actually its an internet meme that needs pictures galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #97
As Germans they should have more respect for the people who suffered under the Stasi Californeeway Jul 2013 #9
That sloppy guy on the slide is mad because the "STASI" don't want him stealing MADem Jul 2013 #13
Well let's see... there's MKultra, Cointelpro, and this guy from my neighborhood Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #22
the comparison is still hyperbole Californeeway Jul 2013 #36
"But when you claim that we are in a police state" Really? Where did I say that? Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #38
This whole "I didn't say that" is typical hackneyed debate tactic BS Californeeway Jul 2013 #47
I'll say it Scootaloo Jul 2013 #57
And you said it very eloquently, indeed! Divernan Jul 2013 #61
I can appreciate and respect your ability to say it and stand by it. Californeeway Jul 2013 #68
Regarding the president... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #70
+ + byeya Jul 2013 #72
Excellent post. woo me with science Jul 2013 #79
Who are you to say "what gets used way too often around here"? Divernan Jul 2013 #62
more or less the assumptions you make about me are way off Californeeway Jul 2013 #64
The post is about pertinent hyperbole PATRICK Jul 2013 #73
9/11/2001 Guantanamo detention camp 2002 Progressive dog Jul 2013 #116
you're correct in part temmer Jul 2013 #32
the data collection has scared the shit out of me since I heard about it Californeeway Jul 2013 #39
My sig is a quote from a former Stasi colonel. Pholus Jul 2013 #59
Hey, the Stasi wasn't intercepting my phone calls here in the USA back in the day Fumesucker Jul 2013 #67
Ahh, pious lectures to foreigners that they're not using their own history in a way you like... (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2013 #87
It came out of artist own pocket Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #16
Kim Dotcom, defender of freedom....NOT. MADem Jul 2013 #19
Not a fan of piracy I see. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #21
If I were an actor, producer, director, key grip, makeup artist, best boy, craft services provider, MADem Jul 2013 #24
People who pirate are generally those who could not afford it anyway. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #26
Naaaah--because this guy charges a fee. MADem Jul 2013 #27
Your post reminds me of something... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #52
I don't disagree that much of what Hollywood churns out is dreck, but I'll also bet that MADem Jul 2013 #56
You fail to grasp the point of the analogy Scootaloo Jul 2013 #66
Of course it's not the "primary" loss leader, but it is one--and for you to compare it to a seal is MADem Jul 2013 #81
yeah...let's attack the messenger ***yawn*** temmer Jul 2013 #34
Yes, because the messenger has been indicted for intellectual property theft. YAWN... nt MADem Jul 2013 #48
I can hear the Church Choir already. Outraged lectures to the Germans coming in 4,3,2,1... Catherina Jul 2013 #23
"I have a relative from East Germany and HE says...." sibelian Jul 2013 #31
The NSA has gathered more information, renditioned more people, than the Stasi ever did Catherina Jul 2013 #42
A stasi comparison is quite valid, according to a loyalist's own post Divernan Jul 2013 #44
Thank you Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #45
Exactly. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Jul 2013 #53
Hoisted, indeed. Thank you. woo me with science Jul 2013 #54
Another one today Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #71
Thank you for posting this. nt woo me with science Jul 2013 #77
You can't even debate me directly, perhaps to escape rebuttal? Californeeway Jul 2013 #63
Hit a nerve, didn't I? Divernan Jul 2013 #65
The Stasi comparison is appropriate temmer Jul 2013 #78
"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser" Catherina Jul 2013 #111
+100000 "If you don't want to be compared to the Stasi, quit acting like it." woo me with science Jul 2013 #49
My personal favourite Choir Hymn "it's disrespectful to REAL victims of ....". One word - Hypocrites idwiyo Jul 2013 #60
Yep. "How dare they invoke their experiences in a way that makes us uncomfortable?!" (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2013 #88
If they're that worried about disprespecting REAL victims, they can address Guantanamo Catherina Jul 2013 #113
That's a stupid fucking insult to those who suffered Cha Jul 2013 #35
Ahem. woo me with science Jul 2013 #51
I've visited a Stasi (not staTsi) prison camp Divernan Jul 2013 #55
Except that the Patriot Act didn't disturb habeas corpus, the right to be publicly accused, geek tragedy Jul 2013 #82
Patriot Act, expanded byMilitary Commissions Act,National Defense Authorization Act & SCOTUS Divernan Jul 2013 #84
Derp Someone didn't read Hamdan vs Rumsfeld. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #85
That was 2006 - try to keep up. Divernan Jul 2013 #92
Yes, and the NDAA explicitly states that it doesn't change the law regarding detainee geek tragedy Jul 2013 #93
YOU brought up Hamden v. Rumsfeld; I don't rely on it. Divernan Jul 2013 #94
I'm saying Hamdan v Rumsfeld disproves your entire argument. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #95
The law doesn't work the way you think it does. Divernan Jul 2013 #98
You're aware that Congress can't overrule a constitutional ruling by the SCOTUS, right? geek tragedy Jul 2013 #101
I'm the retired law professor & you're not Divernan Jul 2013 #106
A retired law professor who can't read a statute. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #107
You get A for persistence; F for legal knowledge/reasoning Divernan Jul 2013 #108
Nope, I just had much better professors than you when I attended law school. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #109
Well you better tell Obama, cause that's not the way he sees it. Divernan Jul 2013 #112
Too much misinformation to debunk from geek tragedy Jul 2013 #115
Oh the irony - that should leave a mark malaise Jul 2013 #41
It's a stupid insult to those who did suffer under the German Cha Jul 2013 #100
I'm an Obama fan but I don't support malaise Jul 2013 #103
Yes, I know, malaise.. the real German Stasi.. Cha Jul 2013 #105
Well your Fundie neighbors are watching you now malaise Jul 2013 #110
Don't have any fundy neighbors thank Goodness.. but, I see your Cha Jul 2013 #114
Hilter, Stasi and Stalin -- the Hair of Fire Trifecta DontTreadOnMe Jul 2013 #58
These germans... Accusing the NSA of Stasi tactics without asking our permission first! Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #76
Germans have every right to make idiotic comparisons to their own past. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #83
Evidently, they can insult those who did suffer under the German Stasi and Cha Jul 2013 #104
Oh dear! Rex Jul 2013 #86
Absurd. n/t Blackford Jul 2013 #89
That looks like a really Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #99
How idiotic BainsBane Jul 2013 #102
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