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In reply to the discussion: NOW It IS About Snowden. [View all]Civilization2
(649 posts)94. Says who? Where pray tell did you pull this "fact"? ? ?
We will actually see in the near term what comes from all this,.
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WE could, and we will. They cannot stop that, but if they want to make it about Snowden
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#2
King is the one who said 'we count the votes' meaning I guess, Republicans. They own the voting
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#111
funny, I started a thread yesterday about HOW the FBI/NSA accesses lines. Sank like a stone
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#22
Well, that's because THEY made it about Snowden. So if you want to get attention for
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#38
There may be great products for puppies, but at all costs "they" will deny any
R. Daneel Olivaw
Jul 2013
#129
You're not suggesting that they would be selling our data to Big Corps, and whoever else wants
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#132
It is so curious that there is a movement to do just that on a "Democratic" message board.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Jul 2013
#106
Good point. They will have to redirect and expand their smears toward the public now.
reformist2
Jul 2013
#4
And the more they do that, the more desperate they look and the more we wonder 'what are they
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#5
Be more specific because when election season rolls around as it always does, we will be
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#136
Lol, I wondered if you were serious or not, but you never know these days on Du so
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#138
It's not POLICY hen you call Obama a NAZI, a "Corporatist", an "Authorarian"
ConservativeDemocrat
Jul 2013
#160
You know as well as I do that "calling out" other posts is against DU rules
ConservativeDemocrat
Jul 2013
#182
The "you" in that context was clearly not intended to be personal to "bvar22"
ConservativeDemocrat
Jul 2013
#186
And there it is again, the personalization of issues, 'your hero' v 'our hero'.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#135
I've seen that one. And Ellsberg too. I can't keep up with the Liberals who have been trashed
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#131
More Germans supported prosecuting their Whistle Blowers also, they were wrong. They fell
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#9
What makes you think anyone is different from them? The point of the lessons that were
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#56
We ARE different in some ways, smarter maybe in that we keep up appearances while
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#77
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Never forget, it is one of the more recent
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#42
I get the impression you dont like whistle-blowers. And what's your definition of "progressive"? nm
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#70
So you believe the state is always right? Never a time to challenge the authoritarian state?
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#171
I see a lot of the same trends in the US now that were present in Germany in the 1930s.
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#172
Would you agree that Eastern Europe during the Soviet period were paranoid states?
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#178
Do you know what the Nazis did to those who dared to speak out against them?
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#148
These people choose submission to authority. When you challenge their authority figure or state,
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#74
It takes a "Constitutional Scholar", and 5 "Strict Constructionists" Supreme Court Justices
Demeter
Jul 2013
#10
I haven't met a Snowden fan here yet. I have met and read several individuals
R. Daneel Olivaw
Jul 2013
#114
And the Surveillance State is still the issue, no matter how much effort is put into trying to
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#130
What's the difference? Both offended their governments, both were pursued by their governments
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#44
And then there was Awlaki's 16 yr old son, droned to death on his way to a party.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#154
The analogy fit pretty well, and hit close to the bone from the sound of it.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Jul 2013
#115
You have not yet reached enlightenment. Please continue, Proud Liberal Dem.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Jul 2013
#127
See Bradley Manning. Tortured, kept in solitary confinement until the UN and State Dept
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#133
It sounds like he was mentally unstable and being kept under suicide/prevention of injury watch
Proud Liberal Dem
Jul 2013
#157
That lie, told to try to cover the treatment when it received world wide comdemnation,
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#162
Actually, I'll side with Snowden over traitor Peter King. It's still about SPYING and LYING.
chimpymustgo
Jul 2013
#23
Yes, I forgot about that one, that he gave secrets to the Chinese etc. Without a shred of
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#37
The Chinese are spying on everyone also and most likely knew all of this anyhow..
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#47
I still don't get it, will have to look it up. Thanks though. Also I thought she
JaneyVee
Jul 2013
#35
Before I had time to figure it out, they had moved quickly to the next one on the list. Things
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#50
'Not on Social Media'!! That's an interesting little item considering the claims that they had found
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#183
Snowden is a traitor because he turned on the lights and exposed what the government is doing
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2013
#40
I guess TT never heard of the KKK in Virginia... or will he create one about it?
Amonester
Jul 2013
#41
Did anyone say that crime should be ignored? I think we are saying the OPPOSITE. CRIME
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#46
I hope so too, but since actually, it seems they do let them grow their foolish stupidity
Amonester
Jul 2013
#48
Or maybe they are not surveilling all this data to catch terrorists. Maybe it is 'data mining' to be
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#49
we apply the principle of accountability to powerless, and the principle of forgiveness to powerful
nashville_brook
Jul 2013
#60
I didn't want to go overboard as some people are a bit sensitive about whose side they are
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#72
Snowden didn't release anything that was not already known to foreign intelligence services
Fumesucker
Jul 2013
#124
I don't think I agree with you that nothing can be done to stop all this surveillance. All this is
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#144
I think I know why Snowden quit his job, went to Hong Kong and blew the whistle.
JDPriestly
Jul 2013
#83
Sabrina thank you so much for laying out such a clear argument about why to keep talking about
midnight
Jul 2013
#92
I know, it's incomprehensible that they could be this stupid. Don't they know from history, our
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#142
I have deep, mad respect for him. Ever since I read of his activities for Madre Tierra years ago
Catherina
Jul 2013
#150
Yes, that was disgusting and proved beyond a doubt the complete dishonesty of those
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#161
You're so welcome. I stand firmly by his side, and yours, and others on the same wavelength
Catherina
Jul 2013
#164
Snowden's a hero, and a big symbol. I'm fine with him being a lightning rod.
backscatter712
Jul 2013
#159