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Snowden: I never gave any information to Chinese or Russian governments [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

Well, the Chinese newspaper said they were shown details, including IP addresses. randome Jul 2013 #1

That's the rub. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #2

I'm sure it won't mean the same to EVERYBODY, right? Hissyspit Jul 2013 #3

Yeah, ProSense Jul 2013 #4

Ellsberg broke the law to tell the truth too. But whistleblowers should be punished. think Jul 2013 #5

Fine, ProSense Jul 2013 #7

Both Ellsberg & Snowden broke the law. John Kiriakou broke law for telling us think Jul 2013 #13

And ProSense Jul 2013 #16

Do you feel John Kiriakou deserves to be in jail? Simple question. think Jul 2013 #20

Yes, ProSense Jul 2013 #26

So his crime was releasing classified information proving torture was used think Jul 2013 #30

No, ProSense Jul 2013 #33

OK /nt think Jul 2013 #43

Dick Cheney must feel good knowing the whistleblower who revealed water torture think Jul 2013 #40

clarification- whistleblowers bring info to Congress first. Leakers do not. From what I've read KittyWampus Jul 2013 #11

Yep. Then their name is sent to the DOJ to be brought up on charges. think Jul 2013 #19

You know damn well Hissyspit Jul 2013 #6

Yeah, ProSense Jul 2013 #8

Your games are embarrassing. Hissyspit Jul 2013 #17

The fact that you think anyone is playing "games" is "embarrassing" ProSense Jul 2013 #21

Yes I do. Hissyspit Jul 2013 #25

You mean ProSense Jul 2013 #29

It would make your posts easier to decipher if you would use the 'excerpt' when quoiting people. RC Jul 2013 #37

Oh, for fuck's sake. Hissyspit Jul 2013 #39

Spare me. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #47

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #38

Name-calling all you got? Hissyspit Jul 2013 #42

And as we know, the law is never morally wrong. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #51

That ProSense Jul 2013 #58

When the law is being used to intimidate people... NuclearDem Jul 2013 #62

That ProSense Jul 2013 #63

Yep yup. Exactly. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #34

Well shit, if a Chinese State-run newspaper says it, it must be true. Bonobo Jul 2013 #48

Wait a sec..two experts working for spy agencies leaked this info? The Straight Story Jul 2013 #9

? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #10

From the article: The Straight Story Jul 2013 #14

Wait, ProSense Jul 2013 #18

well The Straight Story Jul 2013 #22

First ProSense Jul 2013 #31

Guess we have to believe Snowden brush Jul 2013 #52

No, two "experts" working for NYT made it up (nt) Recursion Jul 2013 #27

Wait a sec... You trusted Snowden??? hahahahahahahahahahaaha MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #41

His word is worth zero treestar Jul 2013 #12

And the word of those who claim it happened with zero proof is worth? Hissyspit Jul 2013 #15

is worth dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #24

But we know better.. kentuck Jul 2013 #23

you don't seem to know much. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #36

I feel better knowing that a guy who can't be trusted with secrets leeroysphitz Jul 2013 #28

I suppose Snowden never slept, either. Or slept like a baby, assured by Chinese officials blm Jul 2013 #32

The denials are interesting. ProSense Jul 2013 #46

Especially that the Chinese 'press' was owned by a longtime friend of Bush family? blm Jul 2013 #60

The fleeing to Hong Kong never made sense. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #61

The why did he go to China and Russia? He could have gone straight to Venezuela. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #35

20/20 hind sight there? RC Jul 2013 #44

I think it was good to be somewhere big when everyone was in a tizzy NoOneMan Jul 2013 #54

And you know this because you were there, right? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #68

I don't think Snowden really cares about what does or doesn't help his case. The Cleita Jul 2013 #45

At this point, why would he lie? Bonobo Jul 2013 #49

Do you ProSense Jul 2013 #50

China media is notorious for being controlled. Bonobo Jul 2013 #56

Actually, ProSense Jul 2013 #59

For someone that cant keep secrets.. HipChick Jul 2013 #53

Besides Bonobo's reasons, think about it, e.g. Clapper lied to Congress & snappyturtle Jul 2013 #65

Rather it emboldened previous whistle blowers like Russ Tice to step forward again think Jul 2013 #55

Is he willing to swear an oath to that effect? Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #57

The NYT hasn't exactly earned our trust over the past eleven years or so. grasswire Jul 2013 #64

Please proceed, Greenwald. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #66

Yup, Snowden ProSense Jul 2013 #69

Private contractors have one goal: profits... polichick Jul 2013 #67