Actually, I'll side with Snowden over traitor Peter King. It's still about SPYING and LYING. (Reply #23)

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Wed Jul 10, 2013, 10:20 AM

chimpymustgo (12,496 posts)

23. Actually, I'll side with Snowden over traitor Peter King. It's still about SPYING and LYING.

Elementary.

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189 replies	Author	Time	Post
NOW It IS About Snowden. [View all]	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	OP
If only we could discuss the illegal spying	Savannahmann	Jul 2013	#1
WE could, and we will. They cannot stop that, but if they want to make it about Snowden	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#2
Rep. King looks like he is an evil shrew on NSA payroll	BehindTheCurtain76	Jul 2013	#69
King is the one who said 'we count the votes' meaning I guess, Republicans. They own the voting	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#111
He did specify the Supreme Court (specifically, Alito). nt	Fantastic Anarchist	Jul 2013	#175
Actually Tice did name Supreme Court	BehindTheCurtain76	Jul 2013	#189
funny, I started a thread yesterday about HOW the FBI/NSA accesses lines. Sank like a stone	KittyWampus	Jul 2013	#22
It's much more fun to slam Snowden	Savannahmann	Jul 2013	#28
What??	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#108
Well, that's because THEY made it about Snowden. So if you want to get attention for	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#38
You're wrong. They're spying on puppes too.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#109
I have a puppy. Now you're scaring me!	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#128
There may be great products for puppies, but at all costs "they" will deny any	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#129
You're not suggesting that they would be selling our data to Big Corps, and whoever else wants	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#132
No, they would never lie to us...	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#134
Phew, that's what I thought!	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#139
Post the links here	dreamnightwind	Jul 2013	#61
Could you please provide a link?	JDPriestly	Jul 2013	#84
Would you mind sending me that link?	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#107
It is so curious that there is a movement to do just that on a "Democratic" message board.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#106
They've made that inevitable.	backscatter712	Jul 2013	#155
Message for the NSA:	Lonr	Jul 2013	#3
Good point. They will have to redirect and expand their smears toward the public now.	reformist2	Jul 2013	#4
And the more they do that, the more desperate they look and the more we wonder 'what are they	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#5
There is a NEW one surfacing.	bvar22	Jul 2013	#73
That's only calling out your side's hypocrisy	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2013	#81
Again, we are talking about POLICY,	bvar22	Jul 2013	#90
Consistent principles? How rigid can you be?	merrily	Jul 2013	#101
Be more specific because when election season rolls around as it always does, we will be	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#136
Sorry. I was being sarcastic. I thought it would be obvious, so I didn't	merrily	Jul 2013	#137
Lol, I wondered if you were serious or not, but you never know these days on Du so	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#138
It's not POLICY hen you call Obama a NAZI, a "Corporatist", an "Authorarian"	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2013	#160
Hey, Proud member of the Reality Community....	bvar22	Jul 2013	#177
You know as well as I do that "calling out" other posts is against DU rules	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2013	#182
So you GOT NOTHING.	bvar22	Jul 2013	#185
The "you" in that context was clearly not intended to be personal to "bvar22"	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2013	#186
When responding to a specific individual...	bvar22	Jul 2013	#187
Shhh. You'll wake the ponies.	merrily	Jul 2013	#100
I don't worship any president. I pity those that feel the need to.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#110
And there it is again, the personalization of issues, 'your hero' v 'our hero'.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#135
Yep I saw that one emerge too.	zeemike	Jul 2013	#85
Do you have any idea how hard it is to fit a wheelchair under a bus?	merrily	Jul 2013	#99
OK... Made me laugh.	bvar22	Jul 2013	#158
I've seen that one. And Ellsberg too. I can't keep up with the Liberals who have been trashed	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#131
Thank You For Sharing	cantbeserious	Jul 2013	#6
More Americans support prosecuting Snowden	michigandem58	Jul 2013	#7
Still doesn't make illegal spying legal. n/t	BB1	Jul 2013	#8
More Germans supported prosecuting their Whistle Blowers also, they were wrong. They fell	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#9
Remember, Everything That Hitler Did Was "Legal"	Demeter	Jul 2013	#12
Can't leave the German stuff alone	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#14
Polling the "world" is not the point. Polling an informed populace is.	GoneFishin	Jul 2013	#16
Where are the German Whistle blowers?	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#18
What makes you think anyone is different from them? The point of the lessons that were	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#56
I don't think that we are different, I know it	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#65
We ARE different in some ways, smarter maybe in that we keep up appearances while	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#77
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Never forget, it is one of the more recent	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#42
People who have history paranoia	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#165
I get the impression you dont like whistle-blowers. And what's your definition of "progressive"? nm	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#70
If whistle blowers steal US classified material,	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#170
So you believe the state is always right? Never a time to challenge the authoritarian state?	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#171
A lot of the Germans who blew the whistle died because they did it.	JDPriestly	Jul 2013	#86
Oh my, I am so afraid	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#167
I lived in German-speaking countries.	JDPriestly	Jul 2013	#168
I think the fearmongers are a much	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#169
I see a lot of the same trends in the US now that were present in Germany in the 1930s.	JDPriestly	Jul 2013	#172
"Our paranoia is an excuse"	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#176
Would you agree that Eastern Europe during the Soviet period were paranoid states?	JDPriestly	Jul 2013	#178
Of course they were not paranoid states nt	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#179
Were you ever in one?	JDPriestly	Jul 2013	#180
Oh expertise by being there	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#181
Die Weiße Rose or the White Rose.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#113
That's kind of an interesting factoid...	Blanks	Jul 2013	#51
Do you know what the Nazis did to those who dared to speak out against them?	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#148
Look back at your claim.	Blanks	Jul 2013	#173
Nope. 55% say he's a whistleblower, not a traitor.	Waiting For Everyman	Jul 2013	#24
Every authoritarian state	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2013	#43
These people who mock us for being concerned about NSA surveillance	Maedhros	Jul 2013	#62
These people choose submission to authority. When you challenge their authority figure or state,	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#74
Says who? Where pray tell did you pull this "fact"? ? ?	Civilization2	Jul 2013	#94
It takes a "Constitutional Scholar", and 5 "Strict Constructionists" Supreme Court Justices	Demeter	Jul 2013	#10
Actually it is one Supreme Court Justice	davidpdx	Jul 2013	#145
Du rec. Nt	xchrom	Jul 2013	#11
Excellent post!	another_liberal	Jul 2013	#13
Wonderful essay and photos - Many thanks!	byeya	Jul 2013	#15
Snowden Worship?	HipChick	Jul 2013	#17
Its not about Snowden except when it is about Snowden.	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#19
I haven't met a Snowden fan here yet. I have met and read several individuals	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#114
Then you aren't paying attention.	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#151
It's much easier to denigrate outrage by using a broad-brush attack	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#188
And the Surveillance State is still the issue, no matter how much effort is put into trying to	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#130
Actually I have said, in other threads, on this facinating topic.	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#152
What's the difference? Both offended their governments, both were pursued by their governments	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#44
What "extreme punishment" are you referring to (re: Snowden)?	Proud Liberal Dem	Jul 2013	#59
If Snowden were facing the threat of a drone strike	Maedhros	Jul 2013	#64
I don't think the analogy is good	Proud Liberal Dem	Jul 2013	#68
And then there was Awlaki's 16 yr old son, droned to death on his way to a party.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#154
The analogy fit pretty well, and hit close to the bone from the sound of it.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#115
"hit close to the bone from the sound of it"	Proud Liberal Dem	Jul 2013	#117
Look it up on the internets.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#119
I know what the expression means	Proud Liberal Dem	Jul 2013	#120
Perhaps you need to meditate on it until you are enlightened?	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#122
So	Proud Liberal Dem	Jul 2013	#125
You have not yet reached enlightenment. Please continue, Proud Liberal Dem.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#127
See Bradley Manning. Tortured, kept in solitary confinement until the UN and State Dept	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#133
It sounds like he was mentally unstable and being kept under suicide/prevention of injury watch	Proud Liberal Dem	Jul 2013	#157
That lie, told to try to cover the treatment when it received world wide comdemnation,	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#162
Looks like you kicked the hive again, sabrina 1.	Zorra	Jul 2013	#20
Actually,	ProSense	Jul 2013	#21
Actually, I'll side with Snowden over traitor Peter King. It's still about SPYING and LYING.	chimpymustgo	Jul 2013	#23
If credibility is based on a person's background, as you insist,	Waiting For Everyman	Jul 2013	#27
Strangely enough, PS wrote the following once.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#116
Oh dear, the delicious irony	NuclearDem	Jul 2013	#32
Yes, I forgot about that one, that he gave secrets to the Chinese etc. Without a shred of	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#37
I suppose	ProSense	Jul 2013	#39
The Chinese are spying on everyone also and most likely knew all of this anyhow..	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#47
If you can't trust two unnamed sources from U.S. spy agencies	Maedhros	Jul 2013	#66
Lol! I don't know, Snowden maybe?	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#153
Good grief.	Apophis	Jul 2013	#45
Pathetic ain't it. n/t	L0oniX	Jul 2013	#126
K&R! :)	whatchamacallit	Jul 2013	#25
K&R	idwiyo	Jul 2013	#26
Beautiful thread.	woo me with science	Jul 2013	#29
What's with the boxes thing? Never heard of that.	JaneyVee	Jul 2013	#30
"He has boxes in his garage!"	Hydra	Jul 2013	#33
I still don't get it, will have to look it up. Thanks though. Also I thought she	JaneyVee	Jul 2013	#35
That's my understanding too	Hydra	Jul 2013	#36
Before I had time to figure it out, they had moved quickly to the next one on the list. Things	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#50
Here you go:	bvar22	Jul 2013	#82
'Not on Social Media'!! That's an interesting little item considering the claims that they had found	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#183
Grasping sand	Hydra	Jul 2013	#31
DURec	leftstreet	Jul 2013	#34
Snowden is a traitor because he turned on the lights and exposed what the government is doing	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jul 2013	#40
+1	nashville_brook	Jul 2013	#57
I guess TT never heard of the KKK in Virginia... or will he create one about it?	Amonester	Jul 2013	#41
Did anyone say that crime should be ignored? I think we are saying the OPPOSITE. CRIME	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#46
I hope so too, but since actually, it seems they do let them grow their foolish stupidity	Amonester	Jul 2013	#48
Or maybe they are not surveilling all this data to catch terrorists. Maybe it is 'data mining' to be	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#49
we apply the principle of accountability to powerless, and the principle of forgiveness to powerful	nashville_brook	Jul 2013	#60
Tom Tomorrow reads DU, no doubt about it :) nt	Electric Monk	Jul 2013	#52
K&R	MotherPetrie	Jul 2013	#53
k/r	marmar	Jul 2013	#54
I'll take whichever side Peter King is against...any day of the week.	nashville_brook	Jul 2013	#55
I didn't want to go overboard as some people are a bit sensitive about whose side they are	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#72
knr	Douglas Carpenter	Jul 2013	#58
But.. But... Egg... Face.. Chinese Spy... BLUE MEENIES!!!	SomethingFishy	Jul 2013	#63
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!	WillyT	Jul 2013	#67
Character assassination is a fallacy of logic.	Cleita	Jul 2013	#71
Very true. Thank you.	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#75
Sure, why wouldn't you be able to use it?	Cleita	Jul 2013	#80
k&r thanks for posting.	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#76
He's just the kid that said " Wheres your clothes ? " to the	orpupilofnature57	Jul 2013	#78
"All" is false.	aquart	Jul 2013	#79
So what is it?	LiberalLovinLug	Jul 2013	#87
Because he gave aid and comfort to our direct competitors.	aquart	Jul 2013	#105
Snowden didn't release anything that was not already known to foreign intelligence services	Fumesucker	Jul 2013	#124
Wow. Trying to have it both ways.	aquart	Jul 2013	#143
I don't think I agree with you that nothing can be done to stop all this surveillance. All this is	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#144
I think I know why Snowden quit his job, went to Hong Kong and blew the whistle.	JDPriestly	Jul 2013	#83
And thankyou Sabrina!	LiberalLovinLug	Jul 2013	#88
Hero worship is fucking stupid period	Californeeway	Jul 2013	#89
You missed the point	LiberalLovinLug	Jul 2013	#93
I didn't miss the point	Californeeway	Jul 2013	#104
You didn't read the OP, did you?	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#97
Posted before reading again?	bvar22	Jul 2013	#156
Because the issue is valid, Snowden may if anything get	DirkGently	Jul 2013	#91
Sabrina thank you so much for laying out such a clear argument about why to keep talking about	midnight	Jul 2013	#92
knr	Douglas Carpenter	Jul 2013	#95
Way to go, Sabrina!	20score	Jul 2013	#96
Rep. Peter King (R-NY) - documented terrorist supporter.	mwooldri	Jul 2013	#98
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2013	#102
Lol, another who didn't read the OP.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#112
You keep this up and I'm gonna have to do a DU Shout Out to Sabrina 1.	L0oniX	Jul 2013	#123
Lol, I think considering my 'fan' club you'd do better with a 'smack down'!	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#141
Jeeze...	L0oniX	Jul 2013	#121
Another K & R	Liberal_Dog	Jul 2013	#103
Thank you for acting like a Democrat should act.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2013	#118
It's hilarious. It's about Snowden all over Latin America now too	Catherina	Jul 2013	#140
I know, it's incomprehensible that they could be this stupid. Don't they know from history, our	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#142
I have deep, mad respect for him. Ever since I read of his activities for Madre Tierra years ago	Catherina	Jul 2013	#150
Yes, that was disgusting and proved beyond a doubt the complete dishonesty of those	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#161
You're so welcome. I stand firmly by his side, and yours, and others on the same wavelength	Catherina	Jul 2013	#164
what a great example!	LiberalLovinLug	Jul 2013	#166
I don't think it is about any one person, company, or agency	davidpdx	Jul 2013	#146
The last panel with Ben Franklin is brilliant	NickB79	Jul 2013	#147
I know, I love that one.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#149
Snowden's a hero, and a big symbol. I'm fine with him being a lightning rod.	backscatter712	Jul 2013	#159
Exactly. At first it was obvious that the pro-surveillance state contingency wanted to talk about	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#184
And strangely, you'd think the anti-snowden persons...	allin99	Jul 2013	#163
Oh, the irony!	Fantastic Anarchist	Jul 2013	#174

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