thank you. Zimmerman's story might be coherent and believable if Trayvon were a fucking punk (Reply #30)

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Response to John2 (Reply #26)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:59 AM

Voice for Peace (13,141 posts)

30. thank you. Zimmerman's story might be coherent and believable if Trayvon were a fucking punk

and actually, in fact, up to no good, and this was somehow
provable. But he wasn't, and therefore it's not, not even
close. So the jury has to believe that Zimmerman is
not a liar -- but he's already been blatantly proved
to be a liar, and with no apparent remorse.

I had to google the deadly weapon doctrine effect...
is this what you mean? (from Wikipedia)

Intent to commit a dangerous felony (the "felony-murder" doctrine).

Under state of mind (i), intent to kill, the deadly weapon rule applies.

Thus, if the defendant intentionally uses a deadly weapon or instrument against the victim, such use authorizes a permissive inference of intent to kill. In other words, "intent follows the bullet." ...

Under state of mind (iii), an "abandoned and malignant heart", the killing must result from defendant's conduct involving a reckless indifference to human life and a conscious disregard of an unreasonable risk of death or serious bodily injury.

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43 replies	Author	Time	Post
Zimmerman Trial: Sufficient evidence has been introduced to support a guilty verdict. [View all]	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	OP
on twitter	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#1
I hope so....but I'm afraid I've lost faith. I think he's gonna get away with it.	Caroline-Vivienne	Jul 2013	#2
read the blog article at the link -- very short	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#3
It really is that simple. Good blog link.	Hoyt	Jul 2013	#4
Perhaps...	pipi_k	Jul 2013	#5
I firmly trust GZ's mother had doubt	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#24
I had a different take...	pipi_k	Jul 2013	#43
aren't you supposed to watch the defense case	friendlyFRIEND	Jul 2013	#6
So you must be saying that Dan Abrams shouldn't have an opinion	gollygee	Jul 2013	#7
but you can't declare a guilty/non-guilty decision	friendlyFRIEND	Jul 2013	#8
The blog doesn't say that he is guilty or not guilty	gollygee	Jul 2013	#9
That is why jurors are instructed to not read media, news papers etc. and certainly	lumpy	Jul 2013	#12
his actions conform to	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#14
we'll see...	friendlyFRIEND	Jul 2013	#15
I haven't seen the defense large presentation, but have seen the defense.	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#18
I mean hey...	friendlyFRIEND	Jul 2013	#23
I think Dan Abrams	John2	Jul 2013	#26
thank you. Zimmerman's story might be coherent and believable if Trayvon were a fucking punk	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#30
It is exactly	John2	Jul 2013	#38
"cutting off pursuit" will do Zimmerman in. Zimmerman wants you to believe that	chelsea0011	Jul 2013	#40
Odd blog post.	Igel	Jul 2013	#10
that's one of many posts, ongoing analysis of trial, at that blog by the author	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#17
I can't make sense out of what that guy is saying	korak	Jul 2013	#11
It is just one man's opinion.	lumpy	Jul 2013	#13
ok	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#19
I was gonna say welcome to DU	hfojvt	Jul 2013	#20
It'll be a guilty verdict, there'll be a less than 10 yr sentence. But I would imagine ...	marble falls	Jul 2013	#16
where do you get less than a ten year sentence on a murder conviction?	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#21
I'll stand by my opinion. Any number of things could happen.	marble falls	Jul 2013	#42
Disprove self-defense?	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2013	#22
Dan Abrams is a paid shill	TorchTheWitch	Jul 2013	#25
++	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#31
I don't think that the media cares one bit about Zimmerman's fate	dansolo	Jul 2013	#41
Wow this guy thinks they could find beyond a reasonable doubt that TM didn't attack Z?	dkf	Jul 2013	#27
I think the main problem lies in Z's many absurd exaggerations	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#32
But z still has injuries.	dkf	Jul 2013	#34
Because the more obvious explanation is that Trayvon was defending himself.	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#36
He also thinks Zimmerman is going to testify because he "can't help himself".	dkf	Jul 2013	#28
A guilty verdict before the defense is presented?	LittleBlue	Jul 2013	#29
based on what he knows of the facts	Voice for Peace	Jul 2013	#33
A DEFENSE lawyer too!!!	dkf	Jul 2013	#35
False equivalencies are the rubric of lazy minds. nt	MrScorpio	Jul 2013	#37
I agree!	gopiscrap	Jul 2013	#39

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