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sad sally

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30. Military surplus combat drones will soon be sold here - newer, more deadly ones make old
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 06:45 PM
Feb 2012

ones obsolete. Not to worry, excess military hardware never ends up in the wrong hands, right?
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Combat Drones Soon To Fly Over U.S. Airspace
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While combat drones are not allowed in the U.S. airspace without a special certificate from the FAA, the military is in a fix over the 7,500 military drones deployed overseas, that need to be recalled home.

While the fleet of unmanned robotic aircraft keeps growing and adding to the nation’s arsenal, the Pentagon is working out procedures to enable the Federal Aviation Administration to open U.S. Airspace for military drones.
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Steve Pennington, the Director of Ranges, Bases, and Airspace for the Air Force said that “The stuff from Afghanistan is going to come back,” and that the Department of Defense wanted to use the drones for needs of the nation and that the Department “doesn’t want a segregated environment. We want a fully integrated environment.” This can mean that military drones would be brought under the same rules as other military aircraft.
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While the smaller drones, which are mostly as large as hobby planes may be brought under a system, the question is different for the large Global Hawks, MQ-1 Predators and MQ-9 Reapers which can wreak havoc in the wrong hands.

http://www.jdjournal.com/2012/02/14/combat-drones-soon-to-fly-over-us-airspace/

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Okay, so there are those who approve of killing anyone our government says is a terrorist by drone attacks. Some even seem to think it's okay that innocent people are "colateral damage," and even approve or simply shrug and say, too bad that children get blown to bits or that rescuers get blown up - that's what happens in a country with occupiers waging war.

My point is that the legal and moral issue of wartime use of drones by the US hasn't been challenged and may not be until drone attacks on US soil happens. However, there's also a moral and ethical issue of non-armed drones being used as "journalists" in the US - gathering information and sending it to ??? (homeland security, fbi, cia, private businesses - who knows)?
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UNL to study ethical, legal issues of ‘drone journalism’
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And news organizations, says University of Nebraska-Lincoln journalism professor Matthew Waite, will begin to inject them into areas ground-bound reporters can’t easily go to capture news footage, such as tornado-ravaged neighborhoods or above crowded squares where protesters may be gathered.

But before the first drone is launched in the name of newsgathering, a host of questions and concerns arise – from how to best use the new technology to deliver news and information efficiently to whether drones are a privacy and safety threat that would lump them, in the public’s mind, in the same camp as celebrity-chasing paparazzi.

That’s why Waite, a professor of practice at UNL’s College of Journalism and Mass Communications, says the time is right to study just how exactly the use of the unmanned aircraft may affect the practice of journalism. Last month, he founded the Drone Journalism Lab at UNL to examine the practical, ethical and legal issues involving drones and news reporting.
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“We have a responsibility to discuss the use of this new platform, its safety, its legality,” Waite said. “We also need to lay out an ethical framework for its use. What are the right uses of civilian drones? How can journalists use them responsibly? How do you balance the public’s right to know with privacy or security?”

http://newsroom.unl.edu/blog/?p=912

And if anyone were actually talking about that, you might have a point. TheWraith Feb 2012 #1
I edited my post to include links. woo me with science Feb 2012 #14
Yes, and those links show that everything you said is wrong. TheWraith Feb 2012 #22
Excuse me? woo me with science Feb 2012 #23
Frankly, I agree. AverageJoe90 Feb 2012 #43
That's right - this OP is all hogshit and garlic. cliffordu Feb 2012 #60
No, not conspiracy. (TX has one that can taze from above.) woo me with science Feb 2012 #62
Still, I'm thinking cliffordu Feb 2012 #67
I wish he would come out against FEMA camps, black helicopters, and the CIA conspiracy msanthrope Feb 2012 #2
That's cute, but woo me with science Feb 2012 #15
What did you have against Tupac? Robb Feb 2012 #73
Yeah it sucks living with all those drones flying overhead, not to mention ACTA and the Internet ID! FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #3
Hard to see the legislature that will provide them with one's head up one's *&% Dragonfli Feb 2012 #58
I'm amazed at the amount of.... surfdog Feb 2012 #4
What are the lies and spin? nt woo me with science Feb 2012 #16
And why doesn't he just tell us who really killed JFK already?! FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #5
Hmm, didn't mention JFK in my post. woo me with science Feb 2012 #17
This post should be in "Weird News". n/t BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #6
Can't call names on the DU surfdog Feb 2012 #7
What are the lies? nt woo me with science Feb 2012 #13
Will you admit the police helicopters... surfdog Feb 2012 #21
Is this going to lead to your telling me what the lie is? woo me with science Feb 2012 #26
Oh , I see surfdog Feb 2012 #72
A helicopter cannot hover silently outside your window, ronnie624 Feb 2012 #76
You should really study the defintion of slander. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #32
I hope he comes out against tooth decay. Swede Feb 2012 #8
They only fly over your house if your tracking chip implant malfunctions. Liberal Veteran Feb 2012 #9
Sweet Mother of God !!! lamp_shade Feb 2012 #10
We won't really be safe until we have a drone for each person.. Fumesucker Feb 2012 #11
How convenient! woo me with science Feb 2012 #40
Edited OP to include links. woo me with science Feb 2012 #12
Links , sure you posted links surfdog Feb 2012 #27
He signed it on Tuesday, woo me with science Feb 2012 #36
I doubt you'll get your wish. MineralMan Feb 2012 #18
I don't hate Obama but, I don't like his record on civil liberties too well although ZM90 Feb 2012 #19
The US media downplayed it, and the administration woo me with science Feb 2012 #20
As soon as ACTA goes down our next target needs to be the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement ZM90 Feb 2012 #24
The onslaught comes daily now. There are so many, woo me with science Feb 2012 #31
I don't think there is any evidence that he opposes this. Quite the contrary. nt Romulox Feb 2012 #25
None whatsoever. He just signed it. woo me with science Feb 2012 #29
This thread sent to DHS. Rex Feb 2012 #28
Will they let me request woo me with science Feb 2012 #33
I think you can get the 99% logo printed Rex Feb 2012 #37
Military surplus combat drones will soon be sold here - newer, more deadly ones make old sad sally Feb 2012 #30
Thank you for these excellent links. woo me with science Feb 2012 #34
You're very welcome. Do you read tomdispatch? If not, here's another eye opening article sad sally Feb 2012 #48
No, but it appears I will be adding it to my list. woo me with science Feb 2012 #53
Irrelevant. If you live in a city you are already under constant surveillance. Cameras everywhere stevenleser Feb 2012 #35
"Irrelevant". Kaleko Feb 2012 #38
Wise decision. There are real things to be worried about nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #44
The frog legs served in restaurants speak volumes about that. Kaleko Feb 2012 #45
I wouldnt know. I dont eat frog legs. nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #46
satelites are bound by cloud cover (not an issue in the mideast) flexnor Feb 2012 #41
Drones are now the size of birds, woo me with science Feb 2012 #42
That sounds good until you think it through. I live in NYC. Can you picture someone trying to fly stevenleser Feb 2012 #47
Miami, and the Pentagon, disagree with you. woo me with science Feb 2012 #49
Miami also does not have a subway, my point still stands. nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #52
Why on earth are we stuck on subways? woo me with science Feb 2012 #54
Yep, subway systems render drones completely useless and unattractive to urban areas. Well put. stevenleser Feb 2012 #71
You forgot to add: _ed_ Feb 2012 #69
Except I dont feel that way, but thanks for misrepresenting me. nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #70
'Smile, at the friendly skies of United(states)' flexnor Feb 2012 #39
Flying robot police spy insects are definitely coming. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #50
Follow the money and the need to protect the money. woo me with science Feb 2012 #51
We didn't need Rapiscans either, but all of a sudden they were everywhere. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #64
I wish our President would say krawhitham Feb 2012 #55
I don't care about swagger or style, I would prefer instead he were more pro-union, this bill Dragonfli Feb 2012 #75
He likes the idea, must have gotten some good money from whomever makes them /nt Dragonfli Feb 2012 #56
Somebody is getting rich on this. woo me with science Feb 2012 #66
I wish our woo me with science would say he opposes 30,000+ scary clowns, WilliamPitt Feb 2012 #57
Is there some clown law before woo me with Science that he must sign or veto? Dragonfli Feb 2012 #59
Lol. ronnie624 Feb 2012 #61
Yup. He signed the drone bill on Tuesday. woo me with science Feb 2012 #65
You are too correct. Herlong Feb 2012 #63
K&R I'd pray but I'm an atheist so I can only wish with you n/t PhoenixAbove Feb 2012 #68
Kicked because the SOMA is strong and people are sleeping through this. /nt Dragonfli Feb 2012 #74
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