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32. I'm saying vote and vote for democrats

Sun Jul 7, 2013, 05:09 PM

Jul 2013

Good to hear you feel the same.

But understand that all the anti-Obama negativity will drive some to vote for the other party.

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Let's face the truth...Obama has divided us. [View all] zeemike Jul 2013 OP

no, he has not Skittles Jul 2013 #1

So true! cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #13

Obama is extremely intelligent Skittles Jul 2013 #17

agreed n/t RainDog Jul 2013 #24

WQe have divided ourselves, refusing to deal with facts and information that we don't like. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #215

Sure, he's "smart." duffyduff Jul 2013 #92

well, Dubya proves that education does not equal intelligence Skittles Jul 2013 #107

So he "Chooses" to use his intelligence Against the Middle Class FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #121

how he "chooses" to use his intelligence is an entirely different matter Skittles Jul 2013 #122

Deception is a choice FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #125

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #139

go back to the freak republic Skittles Jul 2013 #143

He's gone. uppityperson Jul 2013 #161

I hate it when they aren't even entertaining Skittles Jul 2013 #162

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #142

you know what's funny about all this? RainDog Jul 2013 #241

well you like me then Skittles Jul 2013 #273

Here come the nondonors to supply you with affirmation, Mike...eom Kolesar Jul 2013 #2

Non donors mick063 Jul 2013 #8

I'm a donor...and I totally agree with him. loudsue Jul 2013 #33

Donor here, but with a correction. Obama POLICIES especially on some issues, not all sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #158

Gee, pecwae Jul 2013 #171

Does having enough discretionary income... NCTraveler Jul 2013 #228

We certainly do pretend relevance when none exists. LanternWaste Jul 2013 #256

What does not donating have to do with this? bigwillq Jul 2013 #271

That's all you got? Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #306

They call it "separating the wheat from the chaffe" mick063 Jul 2013 #3

Well I knew I believed. zeemike Jul 2013 #9

Who showed you? A RW troll who thinks Ron Paul is "dreamy" and a serial Obama basher? ucrdem Jul 2013 #16

Ron Paul is an ass mick063 Jul 2013 #30

There is an army of apologists that show up every time someone criticizes Obama. loudsue Jul 2013 #41

And this thread proves the OP is correct. mick063 Jul 2013 #50

I think they've driven a lot of people away from Obama with their tactics. Marr Jul 2013 #96

Not just when "someone" criticizes Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #133

Good point, they should discuss what a nice smile/family/doggie he has... Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #167

Thanks for the example, "Demo" Chris Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #175

Good post. Demit Jul 2013 #178

maybe we should just dehumanize him and his family. That'll get us what we want bigtree Jul 2013 #253

Maybe we should concern ourselves with the job he is doing, the principles he follows.... Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #268

I was determined that you not have your way in electing Mitt bigtree Jul 2013 #270

Weak argument accusing me of supporting a Republican, but I guess it's all you have. nt Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #274

waste of time trying to deconstruct such an ignorant premise bigtree Jul 2013 #278

Again, it is kin to with us or against us. zeemike Jul 2013 #34

It's even simpler. Snowden and Greenwald lied. ucrdem Jul 2013 #42

And I am sure you know a lie when you see it, zeemike Jul 2013 #57

It's not all that hard. Snowden was slicing baloney all the way ucrdem Jul 2013 #59

Well don't give your secrets away zeemike Jul 2013 #68

How about Clapper? Do you condemn him for lying? Marr Jul 2013 #98

A "misleading response" from Clapper is a lie from Obama. Divernan Jul 2013 #117

Exactly. Just more rabble rousing. I don't believe his crap for a second. Anyone paying attention okaawhatever Jul 2013 #104

+1000!!! Walk away Jul 2013 #233

Thank you...Rep. Grayson. busterbrown Jul 2013 #111

I'm reminded of ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #4

No one is saying 'You are either with Obama or against him.' randome Jul 2013 #5

Yes, remarkable: Like PROPOSING Chained CPI to throw millions of seniors into poverty. loudsue Jul 2013 #44

zeemike, how hard would it be for posters here to at least pretend to respect the guy? ucrdem Jul 2013 #6

I have seen no one here disrespect him zeemike Jul 2013 #21

Why should you demand pretense of respect for President Obama while constantly lying about or Hissyspit Jul 2013 #53

Because I didn't vote for Greenwald and I wouldn't in a million years. ucrdem Jul 2013 #55

Nobody votes for journalists. Hissyspit Jul 2013 #95

So just say you're not voting in 2014 . . . brush Jul 2013 #7

I have voted in every election and have no plans to change that. zeemike Jul 2013 #26

I'm saying vote and vote for democrats brush Jul 2013 #32

Well if it will drive them to vote for the GOP zeemike Jul 2013 #40

Its difficult to tell the difference at times now. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #71

I know what you mean. zeemike Jul 2013 #77

Criticism of Obama will not drive me to vote for Republicans. LWolf Jul 2013 #116

So? Bradical79 Jul 2013 #206

Don't give them that much credit. The party in the WH almost always loses seats in the midterms. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #266

imo it's just becoming more and more clear that... polichick Jul 2013 #10

No, it wasn't Obama. jazzimov Jul 2013 #11

We were always divided. In ANY group of followers, hughee99 Jul 2013 #52

criticize him all you want. But please #1. also criticize Republicans. #2. criticize him for things KittyWampus Jul 2013 #12

Amen, when on DU there is more (and stupid) criticism of the Dem President treestar Jul 2013 #22

Or Do Something Positive... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #85

That's exactly what's been happening. Bradical79 Jul 2013 #208

This is false on its face, MANY complaints of GITMO go against this. uponit7771 Jul 2013 #219

NO. DU members that can't fucking accept the reality that the world is not a perfect place and bluestate10 Jul 2013 #14

I said on a post the other day that I was fed up with Obama's bullshit, and it was deleted. loudsue Jul 2013 #47

You claim on donor bases is dead wrong. The republican and democratic donor bases bluestate10 Jul 2013 #69

Whew!! You are SERIOUSLY misinformed. loudsue Jul 2013 #89

You said it, loudsue. nt LWolf Jul 2013 #118

The world isn't perfect so shut up and learn to love Big Brother! MNBrewer Jul 2013 #87

+1 whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #188

Might as well have voted for Romney Bradical79 Jul 2013 #211

Or perhaps he revealed who some of us always were. nt Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #15

Why, because the ship of state is constructed like the Titanic, Warpy Jul 2013 #18

We aren't divided. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #19

No one says he can't be criticized treestar Jul 2013 #20

No one says it zeemike Jul 2013 #31

until I quit being call a fangirl for not agreeing with every stupid and irrational criticism treestar Jul 2013 #38

no, it is the lack of respect for differing opinions that has divided us. hollysmom Jul 2013 #23

Huh? The country has been bitterly divided since the Vietnam War struggle4progress Jul 2013 #25

Yes it has. zeemike Jul 2013 #28

pfft! The Democratic Party has been divided since long before Will Rogers' time struggle4progress Jul 2013 #37

except we were so divided hfojvt Jul 2013 #27

So, 2 months in you were calling people who didn't agree with PBO "Naderites"? MelungeonWoman Jul 2013 #183

there needs to be a name for a group hfojvt Jul 2013 #235

No he hasn't. Progressive dog Jul 2013 #29

Is sticking a tube down someones thought to feed them just being kind? zeemike Jul 2013 #46

Released prisoners would reveal horrendous US practices to the world. Divernan Jul 2013 #132

That would be disturbing to all but a sociopath. zeemike Jul 2013 #144

I am very critical of President Obama on this point and on several others, BUT . . . markpkessinger Jul 2013 #160

On Gitmo, he did not need the congress to close it. zeemike Jul 2013 #164

Fair enough . . . markpkessinger Jul 2013 #165

And Lieberman suffered no consequences from the Democratic party. None. Demit Jul 2013 #189

Did you forget it was 5 or 6 or 7 months til Al Franken was seated? One of the biggest liberals? graham4anything Jul 2013 #201

Uh, that's what made it the possible 60 votes. I remember it well. Demit Jul 2013 #224

Letting them starve would also be torture Progressive dog Jul 2013 #272

No it would not be torture zeemike Jul 2013 #275

That is your opinion but historically most governments Progressive dog Jul 2013 #279

It is nor an opinion it is the definition of the word zeemike Jul 2013 #281

Legal definitions are sometimes different than dictionary definitions Progressive dog Jul 2013 #282

The torture of waiting in suspense is not what we are talking about now is it? zeemike Jul 2013 #283

No it isn't, you gave the dictionary definition and Progressive dog Jul 2013 #286

I gave the dictionary definition zeemike Jul 2013 #290

Your definition of torture is whatever you'd like it to be Progressive dog Jul 2013 #295

I cut and pasted the entire definition from the dictionary zeemike Jul 2013 #296

So thinking is not necessary, cut and paste Progressive dog Jul 2013 #297

And you have convinced me you can weasel out of anything.n/t zeemike Jul 2013 #298

Written like a true non-thinker Progressive dog Jul 2013 #299

The status of reality on the ground dictates all, inho. How people feel and react is wholly a silvershadow Jul 2013 #35

Here we go again. Gman Jul 2013 #36

As did that browbeating people for... 99Forever Jul 2013 #43

The President ProSense Jul 2013 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Jul 2013 #54

The ProSense Jul 2013 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Jul 2013 #64

Yup, that election worked out great Gman Jul 2013 #60

And this is Obama's fault too? Sheepshank Jul 2013 #39

Another overly simplified, binary-thinking OP CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #45

"As always, you have NOTHING to back up assertion " zeemike Jul 2013 #51

People criticize POTUS here daily CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #72

People who are criticizing Obama here daily are getting their posts deleted. loudsue Jul 2013 #97

OBAMA'S DELETING MY POSTS!!! Skraxx Jul 2013 #112

. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #153

LOL!!!! JoePhilly Jul 2013 #203

Oh please vdogg Jul 2013 #134

And the dems will not counter it by recycling third way dems. zeemike Jul 2013 #195

Haha, I dismissed it after she misused 'inferring'. Demit Jul 2013 #192

Just like I'm dismissing you for this pathetic "gotcha" attempt. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #234

Nope. She clearly means to refer to what the OP was implying. Demit Jul 2013 #255

Really? CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #289

May I imply from your response that you think the words are interchangeable? Demit Jul 2013 #294

Go right ahead. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #305

+1 great white snark Jul 2013 #67

Correction: some people have removed themselves baldguy Jul 2013 #48

WE have divided us. PDJane Jul 2013 #56

And it has been over Obama. zeemike Jul 2013 #63

Obama is a great guy, but not perfect. And no-one has unconditional support. PDJane Jul 2013 #66

Sure as hell looks unconditional to me. zeemike Jul 2013 #70

What is a "succulence state"? n/t Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #109

Ooops....thank you zeemike Jul 2013 #115

the state of this thread bigtree Jul 2013 #267

Perfect! Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #269

Obama has been the best Republican president in my lifetime. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #80

Thread winner. Beautifully said. And some have been sowing this division since very early in the Number23 Jul 2013 #110

Bingo CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #137

It is those that have either fallen for the hype or just need to hate a leader that has divided us. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #58

Well said. Also, the 'Obama dividing meme' is out of Rush and FNN's mouths. freshwest Jul 2013 #79

I agree. TransitJohn Jul 2013 #62

more b.s. spanone Jul 2013 #65

Kami sama help us, if we lose the next Election.. AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #73

Unfortunately, that is the trend Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #191

sou desu AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #223

The trend is definitely against us Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #265

We don't all agree, and its Obama's fault? bhikkhu Jul 2013 #74

People here were divided before Obama ever came along. pnwmom Jul 2013 #75

the man has done an outstanding job Botany Jul 2013 #76

Most Democrats are not divided. DCBob Jul 2013 #78

If we're so small in numbers does that mean you don't need our votes? magellan Jul 2013 #124

Its none of my business how you vote.. but I would think a real Democrat would vote for Democrats. DCBob Jul 2013 #135

I'm an independent magellan Jul 2013 #140

I'm a new independent magellan. I've always considered myself and democrat and have always voted liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #157

I feel very fortunate to have Grayson as a rep magellan Jul 2013 #226

I was an Independent in the 90's but then Bush came along... DCBob Jul 2013 #170

Ride the fence? magellan Jul 2013 #222

This message was self-deleted by its author magellan Jul 2013 #140

I'm not a real democrat, not a democrat at all. You know the whole a real Democrat would vote liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #155

Actually.. DCBob Jul 2013 #169

Ridiculous. It is the issues which are dividing people. Live and Learn Jul 2013 #81

And it is being done OVER Obama. zeemike Jul 2013 #84

Exaggerate much? Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #212

Just what did I exaggerate about? zeemike Jul 2013 #214

Your post: Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #216

"all-inclusiveness" zeemike Jul 2013 #218

Seems your opinion Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #225

Whether or not you actually believe that crap, it would appear that you're engaging in a little.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #247

Link to it please. zeemike Jul 2013 #248

Your claim was a broadbrushed one, so was mine! "Division" didn't start with Obama. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #261

You made the claim and the burden of proof is on you. zeemike Jul 2013 #263

I call bullshit liberal N proud Jul 2013 #82

Exactly. And no one wants to admit to co-opting those tactics. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #113

We're dividing ourselves graywarrior Jul 2013 #83

+1 krawhitham Jul 2013 #101

You seem pretty smart LadyHawkAZ Jul 2013 #119

I'm smart to 50% here graywarrior Jul 2013 #123

YUP ... and the right will be even happier when ... JoePhilly Jul 2013 #204

It all comes down to this for me graywarrior Jul 2013 #258

lol JoePhilly Jul 2013 #259

Sigh. I think one side trusts him and the other side does not. Kahuna Jul 2013 #86

Wrong. It has nothing to do with him. Live and Learn Jul 2013 #88

I'm glad you think you need to go off topic and give me a lecture. Kahuna Jul 2013 #93

Umm, I don't think i will be taking advice about arrogance from someone Live and Learn Jul 2013 #129

That's kahuna with a small K. So much for your power Kahuna Jul 2013 #172

No he has not, some here like to try that tactic. Rex Jul 2013 #90

Divisions were preexisting. creon Jul 2013 #91

My worry is that it's not Obama....but, our Dem Party who Chose to Ignore Us... KoKo Jul 2013 #94

As I said up thread Obama is the football zeemike Jul 2013 #100

It seems to me that the goal of this thread is to divide people and Skidmore Jul 2013 #106

The OP was ABOUT being divided. zeemike Jul 2013 #126

Agree. pecwae Jul 2013 #173

I would say it's principle that is dividing us. rug Jul 2013 #99

And I would say that principles is what team we are on. zeemike Jul 2013 #102

I don't think anything can be discerned about his principles. rug Jul 2013 #103

I was talking about our principles. zeemike Jul 2013 #105

That's the problem. Obama is irrelevant to the rightward drift. rug Jul 2013 #108

I know this will p*ss a lot of people off.... azbillyboy Jul 2013 #114

The mid-term elections are only 16 months away. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #128

Sorry about that azbillyboy Jul 2013 #302

You speak the truth LittleBlue Jul 2013 #120

The truth is ...I don't agree with your premise. Zen Democrat Jul 2013 #127

DU is not representative of reality. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2013 #130

I support Obama because he's been the most progressive president since LBJ Yavin4 Jul 2013 #131

Blaming the victim again? longship Jul 2013 #136

+1000 Amonester Jul 2013 #146

He had nothing to do with gay rights. zeemike Jul 2013 #147

Yes, I know. Biden started it in the Executive. longship Jul 2013 #148

thank you!! handmade34 Jul 2013 #196

+ another 1,000 Zen Democrat Jul 2013 #252

Damn you Obama!!!!11111one tridim Jul 2013 #138

Let's first tell the fake super-uber-pseudo-Progressive trolls... gulliver Jul 2013 #145

So your suggestion then is to divide us zeemike Jul 2013 #149

Remove the mindless derp from that post and there is little left. Bonobo Jul 2013 #152

LOL exactly what I thought after reading it. As if the Dem party apparatus is Demit Jul 2013 #197

Those people have a very good point. Most people want to address the ISSUES. Some people liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #150

I think you express it WELL... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #181

This is what it comes down to Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #205

Yes, people are disappointed. Bonobo Jul 2013 #151

You got it right in your last paragraph. "We divided ourselves." nt nyquil_man Jul 2013 #154

revised: Feels they could never, should never, and would never bobduca Jul 2013 #156

Yes, it most certainly is Obama's Fault === NOT! Coyotl Jul 2013 #159

Yep crank it up to absurdity lever 11 zeemike Jul 2013 #163

Thanks for playing! LostOne4Ever Jul 2013 #166

Ah, cheer up, little grasshopper ... Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #168

The division existed before Obama quaker bill Jul 2013 #174

As any D-Pres would - being the opposition has its comforts. nt Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #176

Oh Jesus, mean old Obama has caused people to argue on the Internet. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #177

95% of the democratic party strongly supports President Obama and Hillary Clinton. 50-50 is faux graham4anything Jul 2013 #179

Well the patriot act past with that kind of margin zeemike Jul 2013 #180

I don't see any poll that suggests any CORE Obama or Hillary supporter has gone away graham4anything Jul 2013 #182

So those numbers were just off the top of your head. zeemike Jul 2013 #184

Voting rights and abortion and immigration are democratic issues-MORE motivated now than ever graham4anything Jul 2013 #187

Well we agree on that then zeemike Jul 2013 #190

"The house can easily be won"?? Demit Jul 2013 #198

women and minorities are changing the world. 52% of voting public are women graham4anything Jul 2013 #199

Was kind of hoping to hear a strategy on how to combat district gerrymandering, Demit Jul 2013 #230

Doesn't matter because Republican women can vote for the democratic candidate to achieve the 80-20 graham4anything Jul 2013 #232

"One side feels they can criticize him and the other side not" alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #185

"outright bullshit"? zeemike Jul 2013 #221

I think there are a lot of trolls here. ananda Jul 2013 #186

how stupid bigtree Jul 2013 #193

And I was one that voted for him twice. zeemike Jul 2013 #217

democratic government 101 bigtree Jul 2013 #238

He ran on hope and change zeemike Jul 2013 #239

those are just cliches bigtree Jul 2013 #240

So you say he fooled us with meaningless cliches. zeemike Jul 2013 #243

you fooled youself bigtree Jul 2013 #244

Well sure it is our fault. zeemike Jul 2013 #245

ridiculous conclusion bigtree Jul 2013 #249

Rediculous rationalization....IMO zeemike Jul 2013 #251

heh bigtree Jul 2013 #257

Not perplexed at all by it zeemike Jul 2013 #262

right. Hyperbole trumps rational discussion bigtree Jul 2013 #264

I am WITH the Prez ... BlueMTexpat Jul 2013 #194

Here's one thing he could have done: supported unions. Demit Jul 2013 #202

+1 JoePhilly Jul 2013 #207

"the most blatant obstructionism since the 1930s. " zeemike Jul 2013 #213

You do realize that … 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #287

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #220

The divide is between those who support Corporatism and those who support People andthesheepgoesbleet Jul 2013 #200

And I agree with that. zeemike Jul 2013 #209

The discussion of Corporations vs People is long over due and andthesheepgoesbleet Jul 2013 #210

corporatism within the democratic party seems to be something some don't want to liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #284

i think if someone is still supporting obama on a democratic site xiamiam Jul 2013 #227

Obama has not divided us. The extreme right's constant lies has. If you fall into the category of appleannie1 Jul 2013 #229

We divide ourselves. nt patrice Jul 2013 #231

I tend to agree. AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #237

I've criticized him plenty, but I wouldn't say I'm against him. LibAsHell Jul 2013 #236

The Republican Party drove felix_numinous Jul 2013 #242

Divide and conqer, such is the rule of the hoarding class. grahamhgreen Jul 2013 #246

If we lose the next election? nolabels Jul 2013 #250

Interesting. However, we have divided ourselves, I think. MineralMan Jul 2013 #254

I talk to people outside of DU too. zeemike Jul 2013 #280

That division is between your ears michigandem58 Jul 2013 #260

let's face the truth...You were never on our team to begin with. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #276

Just another Freeper having fun at our expense. OregonBlue Jul 2013 #277

Correction..the Koch bros are dividing this nation Drew Richards Jul 2013 #285

Oh for sure zeemike Jul 2013 #292

Let's face a more obvious truth - we were almost always divided on Obama OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 #288

And in 2009 we were united zeemike Jul 2013 #291

Maybe there is a divide, but no, I don't believe you. lonestarnot Jul 2013 #293

Divided Long before Obama GoldenOldie Jul 2013 #300

I could not agree more. zeemike Jul 2013 #301

this does go way back. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #303

Impossible loyalsister Jul 2013 #304

No Obama had nothing to do with it. zeemike Jul 2013 #307

Just wanted to help clarify loyalsister Jul 2013 #308