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woolldog

(8,791 posts)
66. Well I sort of agree.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 06:27 PM
Jul 2013

But I'm still curious as to how he got those injuries. It's a big mystery. And I don't like loose ends like that.

I don't know how I missed that! Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #1
sunset/dark dothemath Jul 2013 #20
Ever gone for an after dinner walk? n/t jtuck004 Jul 2013 #64
Ah, yes, another apologist cliffordu Jul 2013 #88
"the RIGHT to wander around, kinda" Sad and so true about so much. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #100
Oh well, then... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #101
So now we all have curfews? Violators will be shot on sight by vigilante assholes with no legal Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #108
So it was dark, so what? demwing Jul 2013 #117
if it was dark, he must have been guilty, eh? spanone Jul 2013 #120
Well that changes everything Politicub Jul 2013 #125
I normally eat dinner around 730pm daily. If out prior, I am coming home around 716pm graham4anything Jul 2013 #151
What IS good for Zimmerman is the idiot DA charging him with murder instead of manslaughter. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #45
From the chatter in the media, it appears that conviction on lesser charge is possible. MH1 Jul 2013 #46
The prosecution alluded to that JimDandy Jul 2013 #69
For some reason that shit fell through with Casey Anthony. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #96
the problem with Casey Anthony gejohnston Jul 2013 #98
an original intent to kill would be 1st degree. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #48
Aren't there also two categories of manslaughter in Florida? brush Jul 2013 #70
Manslaughter is included in the charges. So he could be not guilty of 2nd, guilty of manslaughter. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #50
Okay, thanks everyone. I was wondering about that. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #55
If you didn't see proceedings from yesterday you might like to watch these Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #57
For those of us who don't have the time to go through it all why don't you grantcart Jul 2013 #124
it was the prosecution who convinced me. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #126
That wasn't John Guy, it was Richard Mantei. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #127
you are right, my bad.. I have been repeatedly saying John Guy Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #128
Indeedy. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #129
excellent. I cannot watch a minute of the defense. grantcart Jul 2013 #130
I was sharing your same concerns. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2013 #58
The DA can amend the indictment to include lesser, included offenses anytime. Deep13 Jul 2013 #54
here is the actual law gejohnston Jul 2013 #99
for 2nd degree murder all they have to prove is ill intent TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #103
and apparently didn't know his neighbors, either.. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #131
Martin's entire trip from start to the shooting is barely 30 minutes. politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2013 #81
once again, he was NOT the "neighborhood watch captain". he was acting on his own. nw does niyad Jul 2013 #83
Good post. n/t Notafraidtoo Jul 2013 #102
to the greatest page so more people can get the impact of the OP Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #2
kr HiPointDem Jul 2013 #3
Great point lumpy Jul 2013 #4
ZM profiled and executed a kid.. HipChick Jul 2013 #5
Expensive guns are burning holes in a lot of pockets Warpy Jul 2013 #6
Not just 'gunloons,' I'm afraid. Just like with the King case, there are plenty of moderate, TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #49
It amazes me as well. NT ctsnowman Jul 2013 #27
Something else I've been wondering about is Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #7
No. He had tmobile which allowed him to talk and surf the web ecstatic Jul 2013 #10
Yes. Yet it was too dark out to see much of anything per every witness..... Little Star Jul 2013 #13
Good point, thanks Duer 157099 Jul 2013 #14
Like someone set up thread, it's a lie brush Jul 2013 #71
I wouldn't doubt it - but it's hardly a capital offense! hedgehog Jul 2013 #24
It was a neighborhood where all the houses look alike XemaSab Jul 2013 #36
Good point. And it was a Sunday evening. Not exactly peak time for break-ins, etc. Hoyt Jul 2013 #8
The one thing I'm unsure about... woolldog Jul 2013 #22
Nose could have been kick from the gun, especially if he was holding it in an awkward position. MH1 Jul 2013 #47
that's an interesting possibility. thanks. nt woolldog Jul 2013 #67
I hadn't thought of that - they said the shot was a contact shot SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #90
that's exactly what I think it was TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #105
I agree. I think it hasn't actually been proven that his head contacted concrete. MH1 Jul 2013 #122
I'm going to guess you've never fired a pistol before. kudzu22 Jul 2013 #137
Mostly M16 in the Army. But I'm going by others' suggestions. MH1 Jul 2013 #141
In a perfect world, it shouldn't matter. He wouldn't have had ANY injuries at all if he'd TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #51
Damn, Trollbuster! WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2013 #62
Well I sort of agree. woolldog Jul 2013 #66
I wonder if Zimmerman tried to restrain Trayvon csziggy Jul 2013 #97
That's how I see it too. yardwork Jul 2013 #68
Thanks for the excellent observations, TrollBuster protect our future Jul 2013 #119
Thanks! Like you, I haven't been keeping up with all the details, and I don't know TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #152
What you said. +1M. nt. MH1 Jul 2013 #121
Martin Had A Small Cut On Left Little Finger Near The Knuckle DallasNE Jul 2013 #87
Wow I never knew the time obama2terms Jul 2013 #9
K & R Tribalceltic Jul 2013 #11
For some reason I thought it was much later than that. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #12
The Zimmerman cheerleaders Mariana Jul 2013 #16
White supremacist websites were the first to spread these lies. yardwork Jul 2013 #18
Same here. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #30
In my head, it was like 10-11pm? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #40
I guess they just believed him. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #104
True AnnieK401 Jul 2013 #15
I think 2nd degree murder is the minimum for this act hedgehog Jul 2013 #25
Yes. One of the reasons I knew Zimmerman was guilty yardwork Jul 2013 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #32
Trayvon was still a kid. He was Murdered! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #33
Zimmerman is dogshit, and anyone who would defend him is lower than dogshit Tom Ripley Jul 2013 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #38
What do you consider a child? maddezmom Jul 2013 #35
17 is still a kid. HappyMe Jul 2013 #39
"Zippy" Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #41
Please do. HappyMe Jul 2013 #42
I just asked my husband "based on what you have heard, what time do you think Trayvon was shot" nadine_mn Jul 2013 #19
Exactly. locdlib Jul 2013 #21
"Why was Trayvon out so late at night?" I have seen that question a LOT on the internet arcane1 Jul 2013 #23
Yeah, that's one of three ridiculous memes that are floating around. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #156
A juror did say that and also mentioned the 'riots' jbnow Jul 2013 #72
Holy crap, did this person make it onto the jury??? n/t TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #134
Wow! How come this fact hasn't been trumpeted? I, too, thought it was much later. SaveOurDemocracy Jul 2013 #26
YUP.. kicking the thread again (piggybacking here..) Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #59
K & R ctsnowman Jul 2013 #28
When I started looking into this case Just Saying Jul 2013 #29
My Faux News watching neighbor is convinced justiceischeap Jul 2013 #31
He called 911 at 7:09 Powdered Toast Man Jul 2013 #37
I still don't think Zimmerman killed Martin because of race. NM_Birder Jul 2013 #43
Because he is a cop-wannabe garden variety fucking coward. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #44
I do. MADem Jul 2013 #52
Absolutely. We all know that, which is why it's so absurd that the Judge forbid the prosecution TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #56
Are you guys a comedy team ? NM_Birder Jul 2013 #149
For the third time in this particular thread, I AM NOT CLAIMING ZIMMERMAN IS A RACIST. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #153
awkward, I'm not sure if you're serious or confused. NM_Birder Jul 2013 #158
How exactly would you describe "racism"? TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #161
I understand what you are saying, NM_Birder Jul 2013 #139
The facts do support it, to my mind. MADem Jul 2013 #140
you express what's in your mind clearly. NM_Birder Jul 2013 #142
I don't have to "want" anything--the guy gets the label by his very own actions. MADem Jul 2013 #144
I expected no less. Bravo. NM_Birder Jul 2013 #145
You don't even know me, so spare me the condescension. MADem Jul 2013 #146
Annnnnnnnd cut. LOL. NM_Birder Jul 2013 #148
You're easily distracted by straw man arguments, aren't you? You'd have been a perfect TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #154
Actually, NM_Birder Jul 2013 #159
If "race had been left out of it" Martin wouldn't have been profiled by Zimmerman in the first place TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #160
Get your facts straight. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #163
you don't have to be a racist to profile, imo Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #63
Yes. yardwork Jul 2013 #116
Exactly. I really don't get why people are so easily distracted by the straw man argument TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #155
yes, the race is part of the profile. I don't consider that to be racism per se. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #157
"treat people differently, based on pre-existing BIAS that's based on race"= racism NM_Birder Jul 2013 #164
Look up the Fallacy of The Undistributed Middle Term. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #166
Are you kidding? It was all about race Hugabear Jul 2013 #86
it wasn't ALL about race TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #109
Nobody ever suggested he KILLED Martin because of race, just that he selectively TARGETED him TrollBuster9090 Jul 2013 #162
This reminds me of the "high speed chase" meme in the Rodney King debacle. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2013 #53
Zimmerman wasn't brought to the police station for his statement Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #60
He was seen on the phone immediately JimDandy Jul 2013 #73
I've always been so curious about that TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #110
26 Feb 2012 sunset was at 6:23 PM OldRedneck Jul 2013 #61
And we all know that unfortunately, WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2013 #65
What Twilight? DallasNE Jul 2013 #106
Thanks for pointing that out. I heard it, too, but wasn't quick enough Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #114
how do you know when the gun came out? TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #132
Like I Said Before DallasNE Jul 2013 #135
how do you know when the gun came out? TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #133
True DallasNE Jul 2013 #136
Probably not between those two rows of buildings TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #111
True, Plus Zim's bruises ..... cntrygrl Jul 2013 #74
Lets put it John2 Jul 2013 #75
Can anyone explain cntrygrl Jul 2013 #165
welcome to DU! renate Jul 2013 #82
Time line cntrygrl Jul 2013 #138
I just wanna know how he got off a shot right to the heart ... Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #76
Now that you mention it, I haven't seen a word about where the bullet ended up arcane1 Jul 2013 #79
Pretty sure they took it out of his body. Honestly not certain though. n/t Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #80
It was hollow point and it broke into fragments in his body... targetpractice Jul 2013 #91
The Lead Core Was Found Right Behind His Heart DallasNE Jul 2013 #107
It was an expanding bullet TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #112
K&R proReality Jul 2013 #77
Clearly. Did you hear what GZ wrote tblue Jul 2013 #78
I think he used the word "hunt" Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #95
that really freaked me out TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #113
Perfectly expressed. Agree with you 100%. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #115
The pro-Zimmerman cheerleading squad here at DU just reaffirms what I already knew... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #84
Very good point Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #85
Yes, and the nerve he had to walk slowly in the rain! SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #89
And he looked at Zimmerman, too. targetpractice Jul 2013 #93
K&R for all the kids that walk to the store and then home. Rex Jul 2013 #92
but he had some weapons rufus dog Jul 2013 #94
Defense Attorney said TM was "armed with a concrete sidewalk" displacedtexan Jul 2013 #150
Zimmerman saw Trayvon and thought "Kid's a burglar." dusty trails Jul 2013 #118
He should have to take another polygraph libodem Jul 2013 #123
Just sickening. we can do it Jul 2013 #143
So true. AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #147
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