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In reply to the discussion: On this Independence Day, I'm thankful for Edward Snowden [View all]felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)59. I think domestic surveillance
is pre emptive against future peace/environmentalists/ anti fracking or pipeline or anti corporate activists, as well as journalists or whistleblowers or civil rights activism, who have ALREADY been labeled as domestic threats.
We overlook this aspect of the potential of surveillance being used to label and track the citizenry AT OUR OWN PERIL. Our ability to have a voice and say NO is one of the foundations this country was built upon.
Happy Independence Day (I actually mean it! ) ~~Felix
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It's an eye catching, kick the hornet's nest headline. Need to read the content to actually get it.
gtar100
Jul 2013
#18
I don't think we know yet whether we have to separate the person from the disclosed info.
merrily
Jul 2013
#21
With a warrant NSA can collect the data and store it in a searchable data base and therefore search
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#52
Warrants under the Constitution and FISA laws are for specific data that a judges agrees warrants a
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#71
There are a couple of fallacies in your reasoning. You assume those that are collecting the data
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#79
If we need to depend on faith we are doomed. Faith is for those that have no reasoning capacity.
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#99
Not calling it "surveillance" does not make it right. They are gathering data on us.
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#106
Storing massive data on Americans violates the Constitution and the FISA Law.
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#117
"If the FISA warrants are Constitutional , then I am standing on the side of our constitution."
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#120
What is this? "These types of arguments are taking the same form as the Tea Party uses."??
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#125
So you'd be okay if law enforcement made a copy of every letter you ever sent....
Th1onein
Jul 2013
#113
@Merrily: "I simply suggest that we wait before making up our minds, one way or the other. "
Maedhros
Jul 2013
#55
It is unreasonable and rude of any one person to tell others what to do with their
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#92
Since Bush spoke of this in 2005 what has Snowden exposed except the "cause" he thought he which
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#49
Did the NSA obtain a warrant to do the wiretapping or was this during the period of time in which
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#57
You may or may not agree with the Fourth Amendment but after all these years I think it is
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#64
wiretapping doesnt bother because you have nothing hide. so that makes it ok to spy on Obama?
think
Jul 2013
#66
You beat me to it... Just read the local paper's carrying that piece yesterday...
MrMickeysMom
Jul 2013
#95
I have learned that Obama officials are willing to lie to the face of my US Senator
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#94
LOL, if nothing is new that everyone already knew then why is he in trouble???? n-t
Logical
Jul 2013
#108
If you're only thankful one day per year, you may have an empathy deficit.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jul 2013
#12
+ 1 And under President Obama, not President Paul (as Snowden and his Brazilian Master would
BlueCaliDem
Jul 2013
#32
Here is a quote from you. As context for your emoticons and adjectives...
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#96
Thanks, RainDog. I've been rereading Les Miserables and had Hugo on my mind.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2013
#47
"How Unreasonable Searches of Private Documents Caused the American Revolution"
deurbano
Jul 2013
#39
I too am glad we now know what we know. Whatever his intentions, the results are the same.
liberal_at_heart
Jul 2013
#75
Who do you think is ultimately responsible for these allegedly Treasonous acts? n/t
Ian David
Jul 2013
#114
Me too and all Whistle Blowers who risk everything to warn the people against
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#126
And i know he didn't risk his life for what i'm about to mention, but seeing...
allin99
Jul 2013
#127