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108. Thank you.

Thu Jul 4, 2013, 12:33 PM

Jul 2013

I tried to point that out the other day and got flamed for it.
You are so correct, I'm reading these posts, not one of us has any clue of what really happened that rainy night, and yet, people here think they've got it all figured out, I've asked several people if they've contacted the DA's office with their conclusions because it seems they've cracked the case wide open.

What anyone here thinks is irrelevant, it's what the jury thinks, and if the prosecutors have proven their case beyond a reasonable doubt, then Zimmerman goes to prison, if they haven't, then Zimmerman goes free.

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The prosecution has already proven Zimmerman's guilt [View all] Hugabear Jul 2013 OP

He acted with a “depraved mind without regard for human life.” onehandle Jul 2013 #1

Yes hopefully they will drill home all of those points in the closing. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #2

or if Jury is made up of racists JI7 Jul 2013 #3

"the prosecution did a shitty job ..." - anyone suspect that was intentional? MH1 Jul 2013 #4

it's been so bad it boggles the mind TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #87

Thanks for the detailed response MH1 Jul 2013 #92

If prosecutors lose this case it's because of the SHIT SHITTY job they did TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #94

The problem for the prosecution RGR375 Jul 2013 #105

Which says that anyone can shoot anyone and get away with it. MH1 Jul 2013 #107

well DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #117

You didn't see the video interview of him by the cops at the scene, I guess. Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #5

He has lied about all of those things, and more. reusrename Jul 2013 #8

6. TM went for GZ's gun, which was showing because GZ's jacket had been pulled open during the fight AlbertCat Jul 2013 #15

the gun the gun the gun... I have no doubt in my mind that A Simple Game Jul 2013 #30

"to counteract gravity" TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #89

that piece is huge. he's on the phone with 911 and they EXPLICITLY say Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #46

Nope, he was told to stay in his car. sofa king Jul 2013 #25

there it is again hfojvt Jul 2013 #55

Okay, fine. sofa king Jul 2013 #111

I'm astounded at this logic John2 Jul 2013 #28

You're using far too much logic. nt BootinUp Jul 2013 #58

Thank you. Well said. DLevine Jul 2013 #86

i love how all the 'legal experts' here, ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #98

Thank you. premium Jul 2013 #108

I have tried to put myself in the shoes of the jury members. CTyankee Jul 2013 #113

Not paying much attention, huh? jeff47 Jul 2013 #40

Without getting out of the truck, there is no crime to discuss. nyquil_man Jul 2013 #72

Where's your evidence for any single 1 of your 10 elements of the crime? displacedtexan Jul 2013 #97

GZ said his head was repeatedly smashed. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #119

None of those lies are proven, though kudzu22 Jul 2013 #6

None of those lies are proven, though AlbertCat Jul 2013 #16

it does fucking matter that there are no bushes when zimmerman claimed JI7 Jul 2013 #18

of all people Nancy Grace DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #118

lies certainly are material to the case. magical thyme Jul 2013 #41

+1 Lucinda Jul 2013 #45

he feared for his life. AlbertCat Jul 2013 #49

gawd how I would love to kick gun humping Zimmerman ass Skittles Jul 2013 #85

You are biased because your name is Skittles. Vattel Jul 2013 #91

I WILL KICK KIDDING VATTAL ASS Skittles Jul 2013 #112

GREAT POST brush Jul 2013 #80

well said! TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #95

My mother was interviewed by the police when our neighbor was shot and killed by his wife in CTyankee Jul 2013 #114

GZ told the detectives that he got out of the car so that he could give the police an address. nt nyquil_man Jul 2013 #74

sorry but after the evidence submitted today... chillfactor Jul 2013 #76

Are you kidding? brush Jul 2013 #79

Southern Justice chuckstevens Jul 2013 #7

It looks to almost nobody as a slam dunk naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #13

Respectfully, I Disagree chuckstevens Jul 2013 #99

Of course we don't know naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #100

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #19

You are wrong. Racism is alive and well in Florida. A lot of resentment of immigrants of color Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #47

Don't call people names that resemble you. bravenak Jul 2013 #82

The lead investigator naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #9

You are wrong, John2 Jul 2013 #38

Wrong! He's been caught in too many lies. nt brush Jul 2013 #81

I believe the actual quote was "You got me, pardner." Orrex Jul 2013 #10

It would greatly surprise me if a reasonable jury were to convict Zimmerman, premium Jul 2013 #12

Meh. What's the over/under? Orrex Jul 2013 #14

I have no idea, premium Jul 2013 #17

I hope the jury can SEE it. nt Ilsa Jul 2013 #11

Well if they don't that freak will be able to walk the streets with his concealed weapon stalking lonestarnot Jul 2013 #23

In which case someone can do to him Ilsa Jul 2013 #32

and on #5, alleged to have sat up to say that. lonestarnot Jul 2013 #20

Detective Serino thought Zimmerman was being truthful. Vattel Jul 2013 #21

The police were initially going to let Zimmerman walk Lex Jul 2013 #24

and Z's reaction to the fake story about the fight being video-taped has no significance for you? Vattel Jul 2013 #27

A practiced liar Lex Jul 2013 #29

You are not sure about ewhat Zimmerman thought, or at least you shouldn't be. Vattel Jul 2013 #31

His response was evidence of his truthfulness. AlbertCat Jul 2013 #50

If you believe he's being truthful. nt Lex Jul 2013 #52

I don't believe him. Vattel Jul 2013 #88

You just have an answer for everything, don't you? premium Jul 2013 #33

Liars are good at deception. Lex Jul 2013 #51

Hey, I'm just relating my FLEO experience. premium Jul 2013 #56

Sorry, that's garbage, Mr. FLEO. rdharma Jul 2013 #59

Hey, rdharma, premium Jul 2013 #60

Did you learn those advanced interrogation skills on the playground of your grade school? rdharma Jul 2013 #61

Did you learn to l*e from whoever premium Jul 2013 #62

The broken record approach. Really? Does that ever work for you? nt rdharma Jul 2013 #63

Wow, you are so bad at this. nt. premium Jul 2013 #64

No, actually I'm quite good at it and I'm just trying to help you out. rdharma Jul 2013 #65

Uh huh. premium Jul 2013 #66

You need to control your frustration. rdharma Jul 2013 #67

Got those links yet? premium Jul 2013 #69

Attempting to continue an approach that has already failed is counter-productive..... rdharma Jul 2013 #70

Nope, just proving that you're not credible at all. premium Jul 2013 #71

Your incentive approach failed miserably, Mr. FLEO. rdharma Jul 2013 #73

Weak, rdharma, weak. premium Jul 2013 #75

On which side of the table? rdharma Jul 2013 #77

On the LE side of the table. premium Jul 2013 #78

Bingo. Little Star Jul 2013 #101

Zimmerman knew of the law and knew what to say to seem truthful to the cops, that was proven today uponit7771 Jul 2013 #34

Wow. Professor Carter even taught him Vattel Jul 2013 #90

No, his judge father did that... uponit7771 Jul 2013 #120

He'll still walk. sofa king Jul 2013 #22

You should buy a lottery ticket. nt Lex Jul 2013 #26

What did I win? sofa king Jul 2013 #121

A dead black kid. nt Lex Jul 2013 #122

And one more thing, too. sofa king Jul 2013 #123

I woulda bought it if you said, "It's really HARD to prove beyond a reasonable doubt",... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #39

"(really, who says 'You got me' after being shot in the chest?)" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #35

tTen year-olds playing cops-and-robbers, that's who says it. Kurovski Jul 2013 #42

I'm getting the impression the prosecution might not get a conviction. Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #36

Maybe not brush Jul 2013 #83

whatever the toughest sentence is, I hope that shitstain gets it. Whisp Jul 2013 #37

Not nearly customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #43

The prosecution hasn't rested yet. ReRe Jul 2013 #44

Oh well Azathoth Jul 2013 #48

There's no GZ DNA under TM's fingernails AlbertCat Jul 2013 #54

And don't forget, he lied about his finances to jump bail. alp227 Jul 2013 #53

Yes he did.... Little Star Jul 2013 #103

Addressing point 5 BootinUp Jul 2013 #57

"You got me" Incitatus Jul 2013 #68

There were many brush Jul 2013 #84

'You shot me' is more believable B2G Jul 2013 #93

oh absolutely TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #96

Yes they have. Quick somebody get a rope! Duckwraps Jul 2013 #102

Group think RGR375 Jul 2013 #104

No, if we swapped roles, the police wannabe would have been shot by police at the scene. Hoyt Jul 2013 #106

Sigh, same old sterotyping. nt Duckwraps Jul 2013 #109

Same failure to admit the truth about bigots and guns. Hoyt Jul 2013 #110

Bazingaa, yeah got me. Duckwraps Jul 2013 #116

The prosecutors are 100% correct on this demunderground1985la Jul 2013 #115