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In reply to the discussion: History will thank the African-American, Latino, and Asian-American voters who saved the world [View all]RainDog
(28,784 posts)64. The majority of his total vote came from white voters.
the truth is that voting patterns for whites indicate that race was not the reason for the decline in votes among whites. religion was the reason.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/08/president-obama-and-the-white-vote-no-problem/
...while Obama did lose white voters by 20 points to former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (the widest losing margin for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1984) he still won a clear popular vote victory with a majority of his total vote nationwide coming from white voters.
...Just one in every ten Republican voters were non-white. That is the story of the 2012 election.
...Just one in every ten Republican voters were non-white. That is the story of the 2012 election.
The reality is that this white-vote loss was concentrated among white Protestants and Catholics, as noted in links. It seems that religion, rather than race, was the factor for the loss of white voters.
You and I both know there's a vast difference between white and black Protestant churches and voters. There's an entire history there. So, those you want to accuse of being "disloyal" are those who hold religious beliefs that tend to make up the segment of the white voting public who vote for Republicans anyway, no matter the Democratic candidate.
I can't see the value in this unless you are posting this here to race bait and to attempt to apply these voting categories to people here with whom you disagree.
I doubt that very many, if any, of those white Protestant voters will be turning out for Hillary, either, even if she does have the last name of Clinton.
You should look at economic issues. What was happening in the economy during Clinton's second term, versus 2012?
You should look at the Republican attempt to impeach Clinton over a sex scandal. How many people voted AGAINST this attack by Republicans?
And, you should look at Romney, who claims to have certain religious beliefs, compared to McCain/Palin, who... well, who knows what they believe. Romney/Ryan, even tho Ryan is batshit nutty, was a more palatable ticket than McCain and Palin. She was a train wreck.
Maybe you're just a "glass half empty" kind of person.
Maybe you just want to point out negatives, instead of noting that within the span of Coretta King's lifetime, a majority made up of white people and every other ethnic category in this nation voted to elect an African-American president.
If you simply look at race, without considering factors within society, who the candidate on the other ticket was, etc... what purpose are you serving other than to try to create divisions among a strong coalition of people of various ethnicities?
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History will thank the African-American, Latino, and Asian-American voters who saved the world [View all]
ucrdem
Jul 2013
OP
Strongly disagree. I think that barring catastrophe his presidency outshine FDR's.
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#15
i think it was mostly in the South where Romney won such large percentages of white voters
JI7
Jul 2013
#17
It's very fair to give nonwhite voters the credit for sparing us from Mitt Romney.
dawg
Jul 2013
#20
Yes, but "whites" as a group mostly voted for Romney, so nonwhites were the deciding factor.
dawg
Jul 2013
#29
If minorities had voted for Obama in the same percentage as whites, we would have a President Romney
pampango
Jul 2013
#26
No. Was it on NPR? It's simple math. Romney got 59% of the white vote. If he had received 59% of
pampango
Jul 2013
#56
All who voted for Democratic or at least progressive candidates should be thanked, absolutely.
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#42
Everyone does indeed have an opinion, and some don't agree with yours. Imagine that!
bike man
Jul 2013
#49
Of course, and I'm sharing mine in hopes you'll consider that we take a lot for granted.
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#51
Republican over-reach in states that party controls will make 2014 competitive
bluestate10
Jul 2013
#60
Yes, in 2008. But white support forObama dropped from 43%in 2008 to 39% in 2012.
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#58
Yes, I'm simply looking at one question on the exit polls, because it's telling.
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#65
Your claims simply aren't true. In 2008 Obama got what Bill got in 1996 and in 2012 he got 4% less.
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#75
NOTHING in my OP is from Politico. The link is an error. But your entire rant is
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#77