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42. Two Things:

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:54 PM

Jun 2013

First, according to Obama, we've already struck the right balance between rights and govt snooping. So what's to fix?

Second, how can we be ready to fix a problem that is still being exposed? How do you craft a real fix for a problem that has yet to be fully defined?

Let's get the whole story, the whole truth, and put some real thought into and have a wide debate over the extent to which we will allow the government to trample our rights.

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Do you support Senator Leahy's Patriot Act/FISA reform bill? [View all] ProSense Jun 2013 OP

You know, this would have gone better from someone else. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #1

+1 cali Jun 2013 #2

LOL! Yeah, that went over well. ProSense Jun 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author cali Jun 2013 #12

Of course, ProSense Jun 2013 #14

pot meet kettle. and I didn't pen that. cali Jun 2013 #15

No ProSense Jun 2013 #21

Transparency ProSense Jun 2013 #24

Last tag! Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #32

Jury results Cha Jun 2013 #36

Thanks. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #38

Sorry, I didn't think it posted so I did it again.. I think Cha Jun 2013 #41

o gawd. Whisp Jun 2013 #37

Oh no, ProSense Jun 2013 #40

... Cha Jul 2013 #46

Sorry, it posted twice.. Cha Jun 2013 #39

I would consider it a blessing, if I were you. Number23 Jul 2013 #56

You don't consider the link she provided to be an acceptable source? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #5

LOL! n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #8

Or are Democratic Senators Leahy, Blumenthal, Tester, Udall and Wyden not acceptable here? freshwest Jul 2013 #44

Wow, ProSense Jun 2013 #6

We have too many rw libertarians masquerading as liberals/progressives on this site arely staircase Jul 2013 #49

No, I was pointing out the substance of your posts on the issue Savannahmann Jul 2013 #51

Bullshit treestar Jun 2013 #17

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #22

Try to get over it. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #47

....."Elevates the threshold standard for obtaining records.... sibelian Jun 2013 #3

There is only one reason they are doing this, any of those in Congress. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #4

oh please. this is just the newest iteration that Senator Leahy has introduced cali Jun 2013 #10

He is not doing enough. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #13

no, he's not. and if you informed yourself by doing a little research, you'd know that cali Jun 2013 #18

One who see the pantry lines growing. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #23

one who is on foodstamps (me) cali Jun 2013 #26

He is doing stuff for his small area... Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #33

That is just stupid. Leahy is a stalwart defender of civil liberties and social justice. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #27

No, people trying to make a TRAITOR a hero is stupid. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #31

oh for fuck's sake. Now Pat Leahy is a traitor? Only in your mind. cali Jul 2013 #45

No, Snowden is the traitor and people are making him a hero. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #52

It doesn't go nearly far enough. BlueStreak Jun 2013 #9

Looks good - THIS is the conversation we should be having! jazzimov Jun 2013 #11

Sounds very good treestar Jun 2013 #16

I support ANYTHING that limits the government's ability to surveil its citizens. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #19

Too many Republicans, Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #48

I guess the real question is, will the white house? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #20

Lol! +1000 whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #25

This is worth discussing. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #28

"Unlike a lot of stuff this poster has been stinking the place up with lately. " ProSense Jun 2013 #30

I calls 'em as I sees 'em. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #34

Please do ProSense Jun 2013 #35

+1 Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #43

Sure, yeah. I have no doubt that the potential for abuse is high in the current system. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #29

Two Things: Skip Intro Jun 2013 #42

well let us know when it's ok nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #50

Kick! n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #53

K&R BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #54

Surprised this thread doesnt have more recs. bunnies Jul 2013 #55