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40. No it is not blindly supporting Dear Leader

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 09:18 PM

Jun 2013

It is allowing the Democrats the same powers as Republicans when they have that office. You keep resorting to that claim because you think it's clever. In fact, it's stupid and just proves you think no one should have those powers, and Democrats should not, either. While the legal system gives those powers. (Cue your bitterness that it's not legal if you think it's not legal, damn society and the courts or any other branch of government).

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So to sum up our new Realpolitik: [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 OP

Well, with limits. First, a Democrat has to be in the White House. That's what makes it OK. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #1

Yes indeed. Thanks for the clarification. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #2

Why would a Democrat say that? treestar Jun 2013 #17

Honest Democrats will say it, because it is a fact, watching the defense of policies that Democrats sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #25

A Democrat supports Democrats treestar Jun 2013 #36

And blindly supporting their Dear Leader regardless is exactly what Republicans do. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #38

No it is not blindly supporting Dear Leader treestar Jun 2013 #40

Your argument is utterly hypocritical, dishonest, and repugnant. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #44

A Sith Lord by any other name is still a Sith Lord Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #62

Why WOULDN'T a Democrat call out Democrats for the same transgressions she calls Repugs out for? MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #35

Why it is a transgression to operate the Executive branch when elected to it? treestar Jun 2013 #39

Bullfuckingshit. Not even a good try. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #46

Well you said it right here: sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #47

Exactly. And this individual seems to have no problem with that. But I sure do. If that un-Dems me, MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #49

Realpolitik kardonb Jun 2013 #30

Yeah, that and 'I'll gladly trade YOUR privacy for my ( illusion of) security'. Because...FREEDOM! idwiyo Jun 2013 #3

Ha, pretty much sums it up. K&R whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #4

You emo racist paulbot n2doc Jun 2013 #5

Plus, he's scrumptiously handsome-riffic! n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #10

Well, I will say in all honesty that he takes a good picture n2doc Jun 2013 #15

All that other stuff like having treestar Jun 2013 #18

It's how one uses them that matters n/t n2doc Jun 2013 #19

What powers? I thought he was powerless and that is why he can't push progressive policies sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #27

He has the powers listed in the Constitution under Article II? treestar Jun 2013 #34

K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #6

We must invade your privacy to protect your FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOM!!! n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #7

We have to kill it nineteen50 Jun 2013 #21

I'm rooting for the Seahawks mick063 Jun 2013 #8

Well, nice guys finish last. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #33

We must trust the NSA. We don't want to wait until we see a mushroom cloud do we? L0oniX Jun 2013 #9

I thought that he was/became a Centrist (C). AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #11

Actually, ProSense Jun 2013 #12

The official position from the Truth Savannahmann Jun 2013 #13

Can you please remind us of Obama's victories in reducing MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #14

Sure ProSense Jun 2013 #20

So, in one or two sentences, what exactly are you claiming MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #37

Just great...huh? mick063 Jun 2013 #55

re: Fox, reminds me of the Churchill quote: MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #57

Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2013 #16

Freedom - That Indescribable Feeling Of Being Coddled In The Warm Glow Of Surveillance cantbeserious Jun 2013 #22

K&R Perfect description! idwiyo Jun 2013 #29

We must violate your rights in order to preserve them... reformist2 Jun 2013 #23

Freedom - What's Good For Terrorists - Is Good For The Rest of You cantbeserious Jun 2013 #24

Those are some nice straw men you've constructed Narkos Jun 2013 #26

For Us Small Businesses here in America...we've already been feeling the restrictions KoKo Jun 2013 #28

For all that this OP, and so many other posts on this subject cheapdate Jun 2013 #31

That A Law Was Broken Is Not At Issue - At Issue Is The Underlying Surveillance cantbeserious Jun 2013 #32

Yes, the surveillance is the far more imporatnt issue cheapdate Jun 2013 #45

I think Snowden's crime is comparitively insignificant , don't you? burnodo Jun 2013 #42

Yes, Snowden's crime was relatively insigificant cheapdate Jun 2013 #48

some of us are trying to understand why so many need to make Snowden the entire story burnodo Jun 2013 #52

Snowden is an aspect of the story. cheapdate Jun 2013 #53

Yes it's OK until the law is overturned or repealed treestar Jun 2013 #41

Which Western European countries are spying on us? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #43

"Now, in a fresh leak, we're learning that Brits are snooping on us, too... cheapdate Jun 2013 #51

That's a cooperative effort with the NSA MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #54

"They do it so we need to do it" cheapdate Jun 2013 #56

Obama's asking a country to spy on the American People is a bit different MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #58

Yes, it is different. cheapdate Jun 2013 #59

Should a dominatrix be charged with assault and battery MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #60

Not as far as I'm concerned. cheapdate Jun 2013 #63

That's like totally OK because they GCHQ is sharing the info with NSA. Them are twins separated idwiyo Jun 2013 #64

It's totally OK for British security agencies cheapdate Jun 2013 #68

"The World from Berlin: Electronic Surveillance Scandal Hits Germany" cheapdate Jun 2013 #65

That's evidence that Germany is spying on the US? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #66

No, it's not evidence that Germany is spying on the US, cheapdate Jun 2013 #69

I apologize, I did miss it MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #70

Well, we are sitting here being spied on and not being able to spy back. All of us. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #50

Spying on other countries is "new" realpolitik? Recursion Jun 2013 #61

That it's OK to spy on other countries BECAUSE... MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #67

Spying isn't about what's "OK". Why was Australia spying on us? Recursion Jun 2013 #71

Because the White House asked them to? (nm) MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #72

It's OK to data mine felix_numinous Jun 2013 #73