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So to sum up our new Realpolitik: [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 OP
Well, with limits. First, a Democrat has to be in the White House. That's what makes it OK. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #1
Yes indeed. Thanks for the clarification. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #2
Why would a Democrat say that? treestar Jun 2013 #17
Honest Democrats will say it, because it is a fact, watching the defense of policies that Democrats sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #25
A Democrat supports Democrats treestar Jun 2013 #36
And blindly supporting their Dear Leader regardless is exactly what Republicans do. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #38
No it is not blindly supporting Dear Leader treestar Jun 2013 #40
Your argument is utterly hypocritical, dishonest, and repugnant. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #44
A Sith Lord by any other name is still a Sith Lord Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #62
Why WOULDN'T a Democrat call out Democrats for the same transgressions she calls Repugs out for? MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #35
Why it is a transgression to operate the Executive branch when elected to it? treestar Jun 2013 #39
Bullfuckingshit. Not even a good try. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #46
Well you said it right here: sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #47
Exactly. And this individual seems to have no problem with that. But I sure do. If that un-Dems me, MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #49
Realpolitik kardonb Jun 2013 #30
Yeah, that and 'I'll gladly trade YOUR privacy for my ( illusion of) security'. Because...FREEDOM! idwiyo Jun 2013 #3
Ha, pretty much sums it up. K&R whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #4
You emo racist paulbot n2doc Jun 2013 #5
Plus, he's scrumptiously handsome-riffic! n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #10
Well, I will say in all honesty that he takes a good picture n2doc Jun 2013 #15
All that other stuff like having treestar Jun 2013 #18
It's how one uses them that matters n/t n2doc Jun 2013 #19
What powers? I thought he was powerless and that is why he can't push progressive policies sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #27
He has the powers listed in the Constitution under Article II? treestar Jun 2013 #34
K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #6
We must invade your privacy to protect your FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOM!!! n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #7
We have to kill it nineteen50 Jun 2013 #21
I'm rooting for the Seahawks mick063 Jun 2013 #8
Well, nice guys finish last. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #33
We must trust the NSA. We don't want to wait until we see a mushroom cloud do we? L0oniX Jun 2013 #9
I thought that he was/became a Centrist (C). AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #11
Actually, ProSense Jun 2013 #12
The official position from the Truth Savannahmann Jun 2013 #13
Can you please remind us of Obama's victories in reducing MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #14
Sure ProSense Jun 2013 #20
So, in one or two sentences, what exactly are you claiming MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #37
Just great...huh? mick063 Jun 2013 #55
re: Fox, reminds me of the Churchill quote: MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #57
Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2013 #16
Freedom - That Indescribable Feeling Of Being Coddled In The Warm Glow Of Surveillance cantbeserious Jun 2013 #22
K&R Perfect description! idwiyo Jun 2013 #29
We must violate your rights in order to preserve them... reformist2 Jun 2013 #23
Freedom - What's Good For Terrorists - Is Good For The Rest of You cantbeserious Jun 2013 #24
Those are some nice straw men you've constructed Narkos Jun 2013 #26
For Us Small Businesses here in America...we've already been feeling the restrictions KoKo Jun 2013 #28
For all that this OP, and so many other posts on this subject cheapdate Jun 2013 #31
That A Law Was Broken Is Not At Issue - At Issue Is The Underlying Surveillance cantbeserious Jun 2013 #32
Yes, the surveillance is the far more imporatnt issue cheapdate Jun 2013 #45
I think Snowden's crime is comparitively insignificant , don't you? burnodo Jun 2013 #42
Yes, Snowden's crime was relatively insigificant cheapdate Jun 2013 #48
some of us are trying to understand why so many need to make Snowden the entire story burnodo Jun 2013 #52
Snowden is an aspect of the story. cheapdate Jun 2013 #53
Yes it's OK until the law is overturned or repealed treestar Jun 2013 #41
Which Western European countries are spying on us? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #43
"Now, in a fresh leak, we're learning that Brits are snooping on us, too... cheapdate Jun 2013 #51
That's a cooperative effort with the NSA MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #54
"They do it so we need to do it" cheapdate Jun 2013 #56
Obama's asking a country to spy on the American People is a bit different MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #58
Yes, it is different. cheapdate Jun 2013 #59
Should a dominatrix be charged with assault and battery MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #60
Not as far as I'm concerned. cheapdate Jun 2013 #63
That's like totally OK because they GCHQ is sharing the info with NSA. Them are twins separated idwiyo Jun 2013 #64
It's totally OK for British security agencies cheapdate Jun 2013 #68
"The World from Berlin: Electronic Surveillance Scandal Hits Germany" cheapdate Jun 2013 #65
That's evidence that Germany is spying on the US? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #66
No, it's not evidence that Germany is spying on the US, cheapdate Jun 2013 #69
I apologize, I did miss it MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #70
Well, we are sitting here being spied on and not being able to spy back. All of us. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #50
Spying on other countries is "new" realpolitik? Recursion Jun 2013 #61
That it's OK to spy on other countries BECAUSE... MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #67
Spying isn't about what's "OK". Why was Australia spying on us? Recursion Jun 2013 #71
Because the White House asked them to? (nm) MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #72
It's OK to data mine felix_numinous Jun 2013 #73
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