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Bjorn Against

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21. If you were truly standing on principle you would hold the same standards to the Castro trial
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:14 PM
Jun 2013

If you are going to lecture me about forming a position before a verdict then I would expect you hold that position in all criminal trials, not just this one. If you are not truly taking a principled stand then don't try to lecture me on how I can speak about the racist murderer George Zimmerman.

TM or Z yelling btdt64 Jun 2013 #1
right. and total bullshit quinnox Jun 2013 #2
She even said in the trial herself she didn't know who it was screaming Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #35
It's probably pretty easy to tell the difference between a Merlot Jun 2013 #57
Really? Where the fuck did you get that racist shit from? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #69
Where in my post did I mention race? I only mentioned AGE. Merlot Jun 2013 #71
You did! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #73
I think s/he is just being literal as in Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #77
Is that right? O.K., I wonder what I sounded like when I was a black, 17 year old kid? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #79
Bullshit, defend the racist murderer all you want but we can see the evidence Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #3
Yeah, let's skp this trial thing. Forget these witnesses. ksoze Jun 2013 #4
I never said anything about skipping a trial, I welcome this trial Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #6
Going to take a guess you get home early on jury duty days ksoze Jun 2013 #12
Do you hold the same standard for everyone who is on trial? Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #14
Ariel Castro? Is he on the witness list? ksoze Jun 2013 #18
If you were truly standing on principle you would hold the same standards to the Castro trial Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #21
Your fixation on an accused child molester is a bit strange ksoze Jun 2013 #22
I am not fixated on anyone, I am testing to see if your position is one of principle or hypocrisy Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #23
Reminder: There is no conviction that GZ is either a racist or murderer...yet. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #60
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I support truth. And facts. Cold, hard facts. That's where truth usu. lies. (pun intended)nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #134
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skipping the trial is what gun humpers thought would be justice Skittles Jun 2013 #104
Remember, George Zimmerman said that Trayvon Martin was covering his mouth all american girl Jun 2013 #127
Interesting.... btdt64 Jun 2013 #15
Oh bullshit, don't think for a second that any sane person believes you are unbiased Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #19
I am biased! btdt64 Jun 2013 #24
If you haven't seen any evidence you have not been paying attention Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #25
ReallY? btdt64 Jun 2013 #31
Yes, his supporters do tend to be racist gun nuts. Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #34
News Flash....if you stand in defense of our Justice System, you are a racist gun nut! btdt64 Jun 2013 #65
I support a fair trial and he is getting a fair trial Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #68
9 Posts JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #103
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Stop right there JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #116
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Bye bye JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #129
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"following a suspicious character through your private neighborhood" yellowcanine Jun 2013 #126
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Then go already. No one here actually gives a rip. Your moralizing is just tedious. yellowcanine Jun 2013 #135
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This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Jun 2013 #141
He's gone Rhiannon12866 Jun 2013 #142
Yay for Otto. I'll self delete his copied post to deny him satisfaction. uppityperson Jun 2013 #143
No, you help to put right what once went wrong! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2013 #144
+1,000 alittlelark Jun 2013 #95
Trayvon was not "wandering" through Zimmy's "private property". uppityperson Jun 2013 #55
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What the fuck? How the hell was T supposed to get back to his dad &girlfriend@ her house? uppityperson Jun 2013 #139
Trayvon had no Zimmerman DNA on his hands, right? So how can Zimmerman claim that Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #70
^^ This!^^ BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #107
For me personally, it ended for Zimmerman when he defied the 911 Dispatcher. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #120
The real world is not like CSI hack89 Jun 2013 #114
I've never watched CSI in my life. Not even one episode, so I can't relate. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #121
When a judge tells me that DNA transfer is rare hack89 Jun 2013 #122
Lets see... Just Saying Jun 2013 #87
What I've found, in my experience... Scootaloo Jun 2013 #67
So if someone breaks your nose and whacks your head on the sidewalk you will excuse them as minor dkf Jun 2013 #26
You believe the lies of a racist charged with perjury Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #28
I see a picture of a broken nose and cuts on the back of his head. dkf Jun 2013 #29
Yeah, and you are justifying murder based on a couple of tiny cuts to the back of his head Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #32
How many blows or how big does the wound to the head have to be.... Pelican Jun 2013 #33
Certainly more than a couple of scratches and a bloody nose Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #37
More than that after a bigot with a gun targeted unarmed kid. Hoyt Jun 2013 #62
Personally I get freaked out early. dkf Jun 2013 #36
When we are talking lethal force the bar needs to be set very high Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #40
You say it needs to be set high. What is the law in Florida? dkf Jun 2013 #42
The law in Florida is insanely stupid, but even their absurdly low standard was crossed by Zimmerman Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #43
As you undoubtedly know dpibel Jun 2013 #86
Don't most people feel they are reasonable? dkf Jun 2013 #91
Nothing to do with it dpibel Jun 2013 #99
I'm speaking of the jurors. dkf Jun 2013 #102
Ever been shot point blank in the chest? Rex Jun 2013 #112
I wouldn't kill him. Iggo Jun 2013 #59
Would you shoot and kill him? nt uppityperson Jun 2013 #66
Why are you making stuff up? Rex Jun 2013 #111
Enjoy your stay. Rex Jun 2013 #110
Doesn't the lack of DNA work both ways? If TM were defending himself, wouldn't he have DNA Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #56
except that Zimmerman couldn't identify the point during his continuous yelling magical thyme Jun 2013 #5
So how'd he get the broken nose? dkf Jun 2013 #30
He didn't, afaik. Show me a doctor's report or x-ray saying it was broken. uppityperson Jun 2013 #45
Looks messed up to me. I'm sure we will get to it despite your denials of what your eyes must see. dkf Jun 2013 #46
Simply looking "messed up" does not mean it is broken any more than a furry dog is a cat. uppityperson Jun 2013 #47
Oops. Guess you missed that one. Kingofalldems Jun 2013 #51
His nose was never broken uponit7771 Jun 2013 #48
Then what is this? Court records show George Zimmerman had two black eyes, broken nose dkf Jun 2013 #54
our sloppy MSM, come on...haven't we had enough of them? The ME, EMT and FP never said the uponit7771 Jun 2013 #98
The call by Zimmerman suggests that he had no intention of letting that "fucking punk" get away Incitatus Jun 2013 #7
Regardless of voice pitch, a grown man sounds different when screaming than a teenager ecstatic Jun 2013 #8
My voice changed from ages 13-14 adric mutelovic Jun 2013 #11
So do you think it happens in that time frame with Raine Jun 2013 #16
Judge for yourself Just Saying Jun 2013 #88
The ear witness was a teacher seems reasonable Raine Jun 2013 #13
Fuck, how much do you trolls get paid to crawl out of the woodwork??? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #20
I bet they ragequit after Z is convicted of murder. Rex Jun 2013 #109
Let me ask you this: Th1onein Jun 2013 #27
ask away: btdt64 Jun 2013 #39
Nope, can't quite believe the second one. But nice try. Th1onein Jun 2013 #41
Never the less.... btdt64 Jun 2013 #52
I don't know about you, honey, but my opinion matters. Th1onein Jun 2013 #53
Well......Honey...... btdt64 Jun 2013 #85
Last night... madmom Jun 2013 #119
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jun 2013 #82
A gun pointed at me JimDandy Jun 2013 #83
"absence of visible physical injury to Trayvon, other than the fatal gun shot" yellowcanine Jun 2013 #105
'If it doesn't make sense, it probably isn't true.' Rex Jun 2013 #108
You know what is conclusive? Zimmerman's lies. mzmolly Jun 2013 #123
Did this witness previously say something different from what she said today? adric mutelovic Jun 2013 #9
I don''t know quinnox Jun 2013 #10
yes arely staircase Jun 2013 #17
I guess I give more credence to the eye witnesses than to this ear witness. Vattel Jun 2013 #38
The position of the two is irrelevant to the screaming. JimDandy Jun 2013 #58
Except that the closest eyewitness identified Martin on top and throwing punches. Vattel Jun 2013 #61
That witness hasn't testified yet, JimDandy Jun 2013 #63
He still says Zimmerman was on his back getting punches thrown at him. Vattel Jun 2013 #72
Regarding TM striking"resembling mma", did you know Zimmy was actually trained in mma? Makes one go uppityperson Jun 2013 #84
Really? So it was Zimmerman on top throwing punches? Vattel Jun 2013 #93
I did not say that. I said Zimmy was the one trained in MMA. And that casts doubt in my mind uppityperson Jun 2013 #100
I am glad you concede that Martin may have been on top throwing punches. Vattel Jun 2013 #113
Are you saying he has said that JimDandy Jun 2013 #89
You can do your own research about the witness. Vattel Jun 2013 #94
You made the claim...you provide the name. JimDandy Jun 2013 #97
http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/people/witnesses/witness-6-files-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-cas Vattel Jun 2013 #117
Too bad the link is not complete. Put it in the body of the reply and use the whole address uppityperson Jun 2013 #132
sorry, here it is Vattel Jun 2013 #147
I am glad to see someone else address the fact that Z was trained in MMA. It makes me wonder uppityperson Jun 2013 #101
Do you know the name of that witness? JimDandy Jun 2013 #106
Everyone I know who has heard the screams JimDandy Jun 2013 #44
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #49
I am more than willing to let this thing play out angrychair Jun 2013 #50
+1 same thought here!!!! lunasun Jun 2013 #64
The police did NOT tell him to stay in his car. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #76
Wow angrychair Jun 2013 #81
No larger point. I am a stickler for accuracy. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #92
Fair angrychair Jun 2013 #131
Why do you assume that Zimmerman confronted Martin? Vattel Jun 2013 #96
Are you saying you believe Zimmerman just because he said so? Dawgs Jun 2013 #118
I don't assume that what he is saying is true or false. Vattel Jun 2013 #145
Regardless of who confronted who ... Zimmy was stalking Martin Myrina Jun 2013 #124
I have been followed because I was judged suspicious. Vattel Jun 2013 #146
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Please do not post offensive websites on DU. No need to give them more traffic. Thank you. uppityperson Jun 2013 #78
funny how everybody has a "clincher" in this case grok Jun 2013 #75
I'm sure the Court looks forward to your deposition. flvegan Jun 2013 #80
Ummm, Quinnox, like the rest of us, JimDandy Jun 2013 #90
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