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36. Question

Reply to Benton D Struckcheon (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:42 PM

Jun 2013

the meta-data stores are forever, yes?

So if you're doing something suspicious in 2013, they can go back to perhaps your 1997 metadata and then also get the contents of your electronic communications.

In other words, from the meta-data they can go further and actually obtain the contents of your communications from 1997 if they so chose?

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The real problem Snowden revealed, and why Obama is especially dangerous [View all] Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 OP

I think it's the dashes or other odd characters in the url that break the 'link' button function. nt Electric Monk Jun 2013 #1

Link worked for me think Jun 2013 #2

I meant the DU hyperlink function, to make a block of text a working link Electric Monk Jun 2013 #7

ahh. misunderstood. TY /nt think Jun 2013 #14

I saw Susan Landau interviewed a few days ago and she explained the Meta Data KoKo Jun 2013 #3

Correct it's behavior modeling. This turns galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #5

Voice calls are line switched. Downwinder Jun 2013 #4

Yes. They reveal one part to make it all seem innocent, but really they haven't fessed up to the dkf Jun 2013 #6

These cases can take decades to go thru the courts; for example" Melinda Jun 2013 #8

At the time of the Patriot Act, Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #10

One point to make about Sen. Di Feinstein - she is NOT truedelphi Jun 2013 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Downwinder Jun 2013 #13

my intuition was right undergroundpanther Jun 2013 #9

You have to abstract away from this Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #31

Metadata hasn't had constitutional protection, ever Recursion Jun 2013 #11

Not so sure about that Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #18

LOL ,Feinstein the liberal Dem bahrbearian Jun 2013 #12

Can I suggest you address your selective editing above pkdu Jun 2013 #15

I used the three dots thing to indicate where I edited, Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #17

Your para 2 and para3 has missing sentences between . Fair enough on the ....I used to do same pkdu Jun 2013 #21

Hmm. Why? Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #22

Most criminals , esp. Federal Crimes are smarter at evading capture than you give them credit for.. pkdu Jun 2013 #24

You remember when Olbermann had that whole thing on dumb criminals? Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #28

"Ellipsis points are used to represent an omission from a direct quotation when it is cited ..." panzerfaust Jun 2013 #49

The generally accepted standard here at DU seems to contrary to writingxxx.yyy pkdu Jun 2013 #66

Obama didn't give this a legal structure. That legal structure was put into place pnwmom Jun 2013 #16

Which Obama said he would Debate and Change ,, in 2007. bahrbearian Jun 2013 #23

There were changes after Obama was elected -- things were even worse before. pnwmom Jun 2013 #25

So when is he proposing to debate and Change it Its been 4 years. Wait and Hope. bahrbearian Jun 2013 #26

You're not getting it Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #27

He still says debate it treestar Jun 2013 #30

It would be the single best thing he did. n/t Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #32

He has had 4 years to bring this to debate this,he needs a bill to sign,unless he signs blank pages. bahrbearian Jun 2013 #33

At this point it is far easier to count up the things that O truedelphi Jun 2013 #48

It's all starting to turn into jello in my head, but I'm pretty sure that passage of HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #62

...as a journalist... FirstLight Jun 2013 #19

Use a Tracphone or something similar. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #20

I think the opposite treestar Jun 2013 #29

This is what bothers me. Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #34

Exactly n/t Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #35

Question 90-percent Jun 2013 #36

Kind of, although technically they weren't collecting in 1997. I think. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #37

Constitutionality is in the eye of the beholder. HomerRamone Jun 2013 #38

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #39

Same here - It was encouraging to read this truedelphi Jun 2013 #54

So, by this argument intaglio Jun 2013 #40

No - not if you give them permission FreeState Jun 2013 #44

When you sign up for a phone, have you read all the T & Cs? intaglio Jun 2013 #70

Metadata is extremely useful and informative FreeState Jun 2013 #41

First ProSense Jun 2013 #42

What you're pointing out is true in a narrow sense, Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #60

Great post. Thank you. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #43

There was an article in DISCOVER magazine a few months back that describe how this data is used rwsanders Jun 2013 #45

But it is more than establishing a profile. truedelphi Jun 2013 #52

thanks for linking to her site madrchsod Jun 2013 #56

I agree completely, just trying to point out that even "Metadata" isn't innocuous rwsanders Jun 2013 #67

I should alert on this- complaining about the link button. No whining about DU. In other news, silvershadow Jun 2013 #46

Once more the ACLU steps into the breach to defend an ignorant public Lefty Nast Jun 2013 #50

"he has managed to give this thing a legal framework within which it can be done." KamaAina Jun 2013 #51

And this metadatabank gives the executive branch JDPriestly Jun 2013 #53

Obama is especially dangerous? liberal N proud Jun 2013 #55

yes it would. madrchsod Jun 2013 #57

Whats with the title? DCBob Jun 2013 #58

mr "bent on destruction" (how clever), and other true geniuses on Du i suppose... dionysus Jun 2013 #59

Yes. Why do you ask? Did you read the OP? Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #61

Yeah, I read it and didnt see those particular words. DCBob Jun 2013 #63

Yes, they're my opinion. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #64

glad we cleared that up. DCBob Jun 2013 #65

I Think RobinA Jun 2013 #68

... Scurrilous Jun 2013 #69

Obama also signed the NDAA section 1021, providing for the indefinite detention of US citizens Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #71