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62. Read "The Way of the Knife". You have no idea.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:44 AM
Jun 2013

[div style="float: left; padding-right: 12px;"]"A Pulitzer Prize–winning reporter’s riveting account of the transformation of the CIA and America’s special operations forces into man-hunting and killing machines in the world’s dark spaces: the new American way of war

The most momentous change in American warfare over the past decade has taken place away from the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq, in the corners of the world where large armies can’t go. The Way of the Knife is the untold story of that shadow war: a campaign that has blurred the lines between soldiers and spies and lowered the bar for waging war across the globe. America has pursued its enemies with killer drones and special operations troops; trained privateers for assassination missions and used them to set up clandestine spying networks; and relied on mercurial dictators, untrustworthy foreign intelligence services, and proxy armies.

This new approach to war has been embraced by Washington as a lower risk, lower cost alternative to the messy wars of occupation and has been championed as a clean and surgical way of conflict. But the knife has created enemies just as it has killed them. It has fomented resentments among allies, fueled instability, and created new weapons unbound by the normal rules of accountability during wartime."

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-way-of-the-knife-mark-mazzetti/1114036105?ean=9781594204807

This is what's meant by "hope and change" these days. villager Jun 2013 #1
Yeah, we're hoping for a change Demeter Jun 2013 #60
Well, we voted for hope and change/ Hatchling Jun 2013 #90
Why are a Rand Paul-supporting racist? nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #2
I knew I was a racist, but MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #3
Clearly you are using these issues to make Libertarians look better. Bonobo Jun 2013 #4
Clearly. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #5
Careful, some here will miss the sarcasm nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #9
Let 'em think I'm a gay racist Paulite. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #25
Exactly Enthusiast Jun 2013 #74
They review the list carefully bobduca Jun 2013 #6
They're making a list, they're checking it twice MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #7
Sir, It Would Seem That Terrorists Should be Killed bobduca Jun 2013 #8
Some clarification, first? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #10
I got nothin. bobduca Jun 2013 #11
That's too easy. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #49
Well said! What many don't seem to get is this is relative to TPTB at RKP5637 Jun 2013 #80
Hoover and McCarty were bumbling fools compared to who we have today. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #85
I don't want anyone to be killed by my government. Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #19
Disagree. Terrorists should be brought to justice. Th1onein Jun 2013 #28
Are you now implying that DUers are racist terrorist? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #33
Sir, Implication Is the Sincerest Form Of Loyalty Questioning bobduca Jun 2013 #36
Do you disagree with my 'postulate'? - giggle usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #39
Wait, that schtick looks so familiar.... it's, The Judge! NO. um MNBrewer Jun 2013 #42
They know who you've been texting dflprincess Jun 2013 #13
! MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #20
This ones on my list, Manny~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #68
Sorry I missed it the first time around MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #89
A real LOL Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #69
Uh no treestar Jun 2013 #12
Secrets are most beneficial to those who know them. Octafish Jun 2013 #14
The Ministry of Truth? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #52
Yep! All sounds familiar, doesn't it ... SOS, with new tech tools. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2013 #81
Oh com'on...what exactly could go wrong? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #15
Good point. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #17
If it's so secret, how do you know about it? longship Jun 2013 #16
But I feel safe so it's ok. progressoid Jun 2013 #18
Bimbo alert fail. ucrdem Jun 2013 #21
"Bimbo"? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #22
Okay that was kind of funny. ucrdem Jun 2013 #23
I think that I shouldn't admit this, but MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #24
Ah. Bimbo alerts were media rapid responses ucrdem Jun 2013 #27
I remember the eruptions, but not the alerts MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #29
Okay. But the point I'm ever so gently suggesting Manny ucrdem Jun 2013 #31
How many people did Gennifer Flowers vaporize? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #43
I think Bill was the vaporizer ucrdem Jun 2013 #45
+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #77
And what the OP is suggesting in aTongue and Cheek nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #54
Added to the newly-exposed "Spy on Everyone" program, the totality MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #58
How I learned to stop worrying and love the totalitarianism, ucrdem Jun 2013 #71
4 - watch as the surveillance/anti-"terrorism"/extra-judicial execution regime Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #79
So the bad Iraq intel story ceased to be an issue somewhere around March 2004? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #37
If it didn't get a cute nickname it's down the crapper. ucrdem Jun 2013 #41
You'd think Congressional Republicans would be a little less... antagonistic Fumesucker Jun 2013 #26
drone jokes bobduca Jun 2013 #61
I think Alex Jones said that too 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #30
Thanks that's basically what I was trying to explain to Manny just above. ucrdem Jun 2013 #32
Hitler was a vegetarian, ergo vegetarians are Nazis. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #38
Exactly! Life is so much simpler that way 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #53
It's the same old "I'm the decider, and I decide what is best" mentality jsr Jun 2013 #34
It's a great combo! Hydra Jun 2013 #35
What secret kill list? (Please excuse the newbie) Jarla Jun 2013 #40
Hi Jarla, he's talking about the drone story that came out last May. ucrdem Jun 2013 #46
Hi! Thanks! Jarla Jun 2013 #48
This kill list nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #47
Thank You! Jarla Jun 2013 #50
I heard they had three kill lists. Progressive dog Jun 2013 #44
I wonder if the secret kill list will make it to The List. rug Jun 2013 #51
Well, if you think we're in peacetime, we're not. Amonester Jun 2013 #55
And a few years during the Clinton years nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #56
Bosnia vs. Serbia... Amonester Jun 2013 #57
His first term nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #86
Total brain fart on my part MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #88
This is a problem. Perhaps the biggest threat to the US since confederation. delrem Jun 2013 #59
Read "The Way of the Knife". You have no idea. wtmusic Jun 2013 #62
thanks for suggesting this Agony Jun 2013 #83
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #63
What is the big deal noise Jun 2013 #64
Well, when you put it *that* way, MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #65
It's shocking that Manny Goldstein has not already been killed by the Obama Death Squads alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #66
Bad combo, yes, but.... ReRe Jun 2013 #67
They should subcontract it. The Mafia is good at this kind of thing....and cheaper than the CIA. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #70
Not anymore JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #78
HOPE you aren't on the "list" and CHANGE your phone number often. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #72
Manny, please correct me if I am wrong here~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #73
Technically, the US doesn't go to war anymore. That meme is only used HereSince1628 Jun 2013 #75
You're right, and I'm doubly wrong MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #87
You forgot to close your bold tag. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #91
Can you tell me JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #76
It keeps you safe - until they don't like you - then your death keeps someone else safe whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #82
kill for peace...!!! madrchsod Jun 2013 #84
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