I've spent some time around helos and other flying machines (Reply #210)

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Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:47 AM

210. I've spent some time around helos and other flying machines

they are noisy, and a formation even more so. No one is arguing that it is was loud for a short time.

I say that their presence meant NOTHING since there has been NOTHING since. You have nothing to support your claim that it was somehow nefarious or inappropriate.

Civilian & Police choppers are much smaller than Blackhawks. They would be louder, especially in formation. Someone already took the time to explain the physics behind helo noise.

The location (altitude and heading) was set by the FAA. At this point I believe that you never even looked at the charts I linked to. If you did you can see why they were directed there by the FAA.

You have made some very large claims with nothing to back them up while I and others have repeatedly shown how and why you are wrong. Do you have anything rational to support your position?

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223 replies	Author	Time	Post
Military helicopters overhead in the middle of LA. [View all]	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	OP
How frequently does it happen?	tabatha	Feb 2012	#1
LAPD choppers fly over head a lot	Liberal_in_LA	Feb 2012	#10
I meant military helicopters.	tabatha	Feb 2012	#11
Do you live in a crowded city?	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#19
Half of the year, airplanes fly overhead to get to the airport.	tabatha	Feb 2012	#24
I do. I live in St. Paul, MN.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#28
I'll be sure to wave next time...	JSnuffy	Feb 2012	#31
This is a very new development.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#21
The iron fist of Big Helicopter tightens its grip on the City of Angels.	Codeine	Feb 2012	#49
lol...the very situation for which "clutching pearls" was created. n/t	Sheepshank	Feb 2012	#71
lol...the very situation for which "clutching pearls" was created. n/t	Sheepshank	Feb 2012	#72
"Clutching Pearls" is OVER!	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#97
Recently it was announced that there were some training exercises being conducted in LA	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#51
The news link is in #20	pinboy3niner	Feb 2012	#54
What are they training for?	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#63
Two different links have been posted in this thread. I suggest you read them	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#74
"No where to go if there is a problem" is precisely the problem.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#76
Right now I am leaning towards ATC direction	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#79
Three C 130 cargo planes fly directly over my house once a week. They are	appleannie1	Feb 2012	#152
There are designated low level training routes for the military	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#160
Okay, that link is awesome!	krispos42	Feb 2012	#204
No offense, but this is a silly and pointless thread.	TheWraith	Feb 2012	#2
We are not that near any bases. Where would they	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#13
Have you made inquiries? I imagine that if not classified, U.S. Army Public Affairs	LanternWaste	Feb 2012	#17
What you first noticed probably was the joint military training exercises downtown	pinboy3niner	Feb 2012	#20
Yeah, I guess if there were an emergency and the military screwed up	tabatha	Feb 2012	#26
What are they training to do?	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#65
It's coming closer on the heels of SGK attempting to defund PP	Sheepshank	Feb 2012	#73
See Post 74	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#75
We live in the country, so we actually think it's pretty cool when..	renie408	Feb 2012	#22
Yea. Obama knows where every military aircraft is at any given time.	bluerum	Feb 2012	#3
Obama is the commander in chief.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#14
"Affects a lot of people"?	Codeine	Feb 2012	#37
Its not a big deal, and speaking as a pilot, they do not want to be there	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#53
What if the helicopters were being moved from one base to another? Truck them?	cherokeeprogressive	Feb 2012	#150
"Obama is the commander in chief....."	EX500rider	Feb 2012	#187
How do you know what is necessary?	treestar	Feb 2012	#201
Considering there is an Air Force base there,	SunsetDreams	Feb 2012	#4
"Forget it, he's rolling." nt	msanthrope	Feb 2012	#8
An Air Force base in downtown LA? I don't think so.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#15
Uh, yes. There's one at LAX. You can read about it here:	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#29
LAX is no where near downtown L.A. nt	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#35
Really? By helicopter? Look at a map, for goodness sake.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#38
I don't have to look at a map. I lived there.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#41
And so did I. I know exactly where LAX is in relationship to	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#43
Mineral Man, Camp Pendleton is a long way from LA.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#78
Actually you cannot say that with any certainty	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#84
They were flying north to south over our house. No they were not	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#131
Have you even looked at the aviation chart I linked to earlier?	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#137
Edwards AFB is just north of LA	JimmyT	Feb 2012	#166
Planes? I thought they were helicopters.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#98
Camp Pendleton is South of here.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#132
I agree, re the unnecessary 'snarky' posts.	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#58
But Sabrina... he "marched with Martin Luther King"! nt	Bonobo	Feb 2012	#116
I cannot imagine MLK engaging in the kind of behavior I have seen on DU	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#118
Correct. Civil rights icon. ;)	DisgustipatedinCA	Feb 2012	#119
But crossing the LAX airspace may require that they go inland	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#56
LA is one big, huge downtown	treestar	Feb 2012	#203
That base has no runways or assigned aircraft	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#55
My husband said they were Blackhawks.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#80
Its looking more like it was ATC orders at this point	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#83
Yes. I know that the AFB in Los Angeles has no planes,	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#101
Not if they are Blackhawks	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#104
Yes. Well, we don't actually know what kind of helicopters	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#105
My take is that it was a squadron deploying based on the number of aircraft	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#109
Yes, that's a definite possibility.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#110
LAX is about 20 miles from downtown LA.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#77
They do if the FAA sent them along that route	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#81
There is no air force base in downtown L.A.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#66
Are they going to film more episodes of 'Chuck'?	icymist	Feb 2012	#5
I think you should call Congress. RIGHT FUCKING NOW !!!1111!!111	msanthrope	Feb 2012	#6
Oh my goodness....	CherokeeDem	Feb 2012	#7
Oh, we have police helicopters all the time, especially on weekend nights.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#16
The sound of unusual aircraft always gets me running outside	Codeine	Feb 2012	#40
Yup. I heard the sound of a four-engine piston-driven aircraft	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#47
Oh, my...did that nasty President Obama order	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#9
I used to live in the path of 2 NAS	Ruby the Liberal	Feb 2012	#12
Talk "lording it over" the common folks. That's what those	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#18
The worst experience I ever had was in Fort Worth	tabatha	Feb 2012	#27
And then there are dozens and dozens of Marine helicopters at	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#34
So these are the new DU community standards. Make childish remarks to a DUer	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#60
The OP is not interested in discussions	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#62
And you know what is in the OP's mind, how? Are you familiar with her at all?	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#64
Their words speak for themselves	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#67
I am familiar with the OP's posts on DU for a long time now.	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#89
After my last post I have taken a different approach	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#93
I leave such tactics as 'ridicule' and 'mockery' to the far right. I believe we on the left	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#124
You clearly have not been on a college campus in some time	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#139
I've been on a college campus many times recently. Not sure what that is supposed	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#144
You sure must like it up there on your high horse....	Joe the Revelator	Feb 2012	#156
Childish? I explained where there are military	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#95
I expressed MY opinion, which remains, the behavior of swarming a longtime Democrat	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#123
On the other hand.....	A HERETIC I AM	Feb 2012	#140
'It'?? We are talking about a person. Thank you for proving my point.	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#143
Oh Jesus Christ on a fucking street corner selling candied apples!	A HERETIC I AM	Feb 2012	#146
This post is amazing.....well said.	Joe the Revelator	Feb 2012	#157
Asking to consider that there's an actual living human being	Kaleko	Feb 2012	#158
I imagine many people consider themselves wise enough	LanternWaste	Feb 2012	#213
Actually there is a good reason for them to be there...or they wouldn't be there	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#59
Unbelievable.	A HERETIC I AM	Feb 2012	#135
It's you who comes off as far more outraged	Kaleko	Feb 2012	#161
lemme guess... somebody stole your sweetroll. nt	Whisp	Feb 2012	#141
i love that game nt	backwoodsbob	Feb 2012	#170
come to Gaming group.	Whisp	Feb 2012	#178
I ask this question based upon personal experiences	rufus dog	Feb 2012	#23
High five!	renie408	Feb 2012	#25
Duzy! Obama must of eaten all of the Doritos too. n/t	FSogol	Feb 2012	#32
We outgrew that some 50 years ago so not in this house.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#82
Ding! Ding! Ding!	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2012	#147
Here's a news story explaining what happened today:	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#30
MineralMan, if you read the article, you know that I was not the only	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#85
There was nothing wrong or worth getting terrified over	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#92
You're terrified by military helicopters?	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#96
Why the heck would helicopters terrify you?	Codeine	Feb 2012	#130
It is "not right" to ever be "terrified?"	treestar	Feb 2012	#206
Most emphatically. You can find out fascinating things with Google	DisgustipatedinCA	Feb 2012	#99
I see. Would you care to elaborate?	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#106
Begone	DisgustipatedinCA	Feb 2012	#112
No, thanks. You're the one who stepped in and posted	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#113
Probably more like this.	Bonobo	Feb 2012	#127
He was a freeper?	Cali_Democrat	Feb 2012	#155
He's obviously not a FReeper.	Old and In the Way	Feb 2012	#164
I see your point. n/t	Cali_Democrat	Feb 2012	#168
I used to have a link to that thread in my profile.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#165
If this was typical of your posts...how did you last 4 years?	Old and In the Way	Feb 2012	#173
No, it wasn't at all typical of my posts.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#174
You say "I am not a troll and not not a liberal." and I'd like to know why.	Bonobo	Feb 2012	#181
Liberal is a label.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#183
Why did you deny being a liberal. Do you think a liberal is a bad thing? nt	Bonobo	Feb 2012	#179
Because that's not what I call myself. I'm a progressive Democrat, who	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#182
I call myself a traditional Democrat.	Bonobo	Feb 2012	#184
Then we believe pretty much the same things.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#186
What a pathetic thing to do.	NYC_SKP	Feb 2012	#167
Linking to a DU OP is a "pathetic thing"? The OP wasn't even locked. nt	Bonobo	Feb 2012	#180
Interesting, thanks for posting! We get usually one chinook helicopter a	RKP5637	Feb 2012	#115
Ah...what's that smell?	there but 4 fortune	Feb 2012	#33
Main question is: did any soldiers rappel onto your lawn? nt	Dreamer Tatum	Feb 2012	#36
That will surely be next. I'll keep you posted.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#86
"military trash"?	Throd	Feb 2012	#39
I think the poster meant "overpriced expensive military trash".	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#46
That struck me as as a horrible comment.	DevonRex	Feb 2012	#91
I wasn't talking about the people in the copters. I was talking about the	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#133
Great. Now the election hinges on half-a-dozen rotary-winged aircraft	Codeine	Feb 2012	#42
Absolutely! Vote for a Republican if You Hate	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#45
You have my sympathy.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#44
Thank you. That is how it felt -- like living in a war zone.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#87
Reading down this thread I'm amazed at the nastiness directed toward you. I've read	truth2power	Feb 2012	#188
Thank you. I plan to call my city councilman about this next week.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#196
Calling your councilman is a very good idea. I'm of the opinion that	truth2power	Feb 2012	#198
Dude you need to chill out	titaniumsalute	Feb 2012	#48
I thought that was common	Redstate Bluegirl	Feb 2012	#50
I used to live there and never found it that peaceful there in spite of	Cleita	Feb 2012	#52
No my ex-Air Force husband says they were Black Hawk helicopters.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#88
This is really silly. So don't vote for him then.	DevonRex	Feb 2012	#57
Once, no. But twice?	uppityperson	Feb 2012	#117
Where were they 1) coming from and 2) going?	LadyHawkAZ	Feb 2012	#61
If the OP had been more observant and paid attention to such things as service and markings we might	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#69
I used to live in San Luis Obispo county	LadyHawkAZ	Feb 2012	#114
Is Lindsay Lohan in town?	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#68
You have no idea what they are doing	Sheepshank	Feb 2012	#70
calm down.	Warren DeMontague	Feb 2012	#90
Dear JDP	Tsiyu	Feb 2012	#94
Thank you! Personally, I might be irked by the helos, probably not scared	DisgustipatedinCA	Feb 2012	#100
De Nada...there's no excuse	Tsiyu	Feb 2012	#108
Thank you, I could not agree more, to see this kind of behavior, especially directed	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#120
Yes, freeperish behavior on DU. I never expected to see it frankly.	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#121
Amen! n/t	truth2power	Feb 2012	#189
Police State, the USA way.	sarcasmo	Feb 2012	#102
I saw and heard them when they flew right by my office window.	zappaman	Feb 2012	#103
Ignore those who dismiss your concerns JDPriestly	Harmony Blue	Feb 2012	#107
Heh, I hope you never visit Virginia Beach then	charlie and algernon	Feb 2012	#111
Second witness here.	A-Schwarzenegger	Feb 2012	#122
They must have been everywhere. That makes this more troubling.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#136
There is no issue here...	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#142
The first time I heard a military aircraft get real close, I was startled at how loud it really was.	Robb	Feb 2012	#125
Every June we have the Air and Water Show here in Chicago and...	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2012	#162
"It's visceral, brain-stem, reptile-brain fear."	A-Schwarzenegger	Feb 2012	#176
In 1990, we used F-16s and F-18s to drop leaflets.	Robb	Feb 2012	#177
Whoa!	Texasgal	Feb 2012	#126
Thank you. n/t	Cali_Democrat	Feb 2012	#154
Maybe it would be normal to be alarmed	treestar	Feb 2012	#202
Cool!!!	greytdemocrat	Feb 2012	#128
I will get on the phone	obliviously	Feb 2012	#129
JD, You post at DU too much.	donheld	Feb 2012	#134
Saigon,....Shit!	rufus dog	Feb 2012	#138
I personally love hearing and seeing our helicopters and jets low	Muskypundit	Feb 2012	#145
They coulda parked every one of 'em on your front lawn, and Obama would still win LA....	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2012	#148
HA! They flew over Big Bear Lake a few minutes later and were celebrated!	cherokeeprogressive	Feb 2012	#149
Actually it was an entirely different level of noise from Police helicopters.	trackfan	Feb 2012	#151
"military sound". Is that what is offensive to you?	cherokeeprogressive	Feb 2012	#159
A large formation would certainly sound different than a single helo	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#163
How do you know?	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#197
I've spent some time around helos and other flying machines	ProgressiveProfessor	Feb 2012	#210
I remember a few years back when the Bush administration wanted to deploy Blackwater	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#211
I didn't say it was offensive. I'm just reporting what I heard.	trackfan	Feb 2012	#172
LOL...don't move to where I live	TheCruces	Feb 2012	#153
Are you in Las Cruces?	tammywammy	Feb 2012	#190
I am and apparently not	TheCruces	Feb 2012	#200
I've never been to Las Cruces	tammywammy	Feb 2012	#208
I've honestly never been to Go Burger	TheCruces	Feb 2012	#209
I honestly didn't understand the fear factor in all of this	Sheepshank	Feb 2012	#169
I'm sure President Obama will get right on that--can't have choppers in YOUR airspace.	TwilightGardener	Feb 2012	#171
I live	mercuryblues	Feb 2012	#175
Three of my boys were in Civil Air Patrol	Tsiyu	Feb 2012	#195
5 miles from NYC's JFK here....	annabanana	Feb 2012	#185
LA is the city of helicopters. I lived there for 17 years.	kwassa	Feb 2012	#191
There are helicopters and helicopters, though.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#192
belated k&r - and a "wow", too, at some of the comments!	inna	Feb 2012	#193
Was driving in Louisiana back in the 80's when they scrambled some B-52's..	EX500rider	Feb 2012	#194
Belated hug to you JDPriestly	suffragette	Feb 2012	#199
Thanks, suffragette.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#218
Hugs for your fright and irritation	steve2470	Feb 2012	#205
Thanks. I wonder what I have done to deserve to be the subject of such exaggerated	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#217
Your bigotry (military trash) speaks for itself.	Old Troop	Feb 2012	#207
By military trash, I was speaking of the outdated equipment.	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#216
Only time we see military helicopters in Chicago is when the President is in town	AngryAmish	Feb 2012	#212
You would never survive if you lived near a military airbase	MicaelS	Feb 2012	#214
If I lived near a military base, I would know why the helicopters were there,	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#215
They are there for a rational purpose	MicaelS	Feb 2012	#219
I signed up for this site only to address this issue.	air_pirate	Feb 2012	#220
Right now, Sunday morning at 11:17 a.m., there is some sort of aircraft	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#222
Back in 2002, the marines trained in my hometown	RZM	Feb 2012	#221
Could it be guard weekend?	YellowRubberDuckie	Feb 2012	#223

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