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And some will still ignore these 3 whistleblowers and focus on Greenwald think Jun 2013 #1
And some will still stay strangely focused on a mythical beast. elias7 Jun 2013 #3
I'm sorry. think Jun 2013 #10
Snark all you want - we've got more where that came from! Cronus Protagonist Jun 2013 #15
What a nice post. How refreshing! October Jun 2013 #145
Its not that they are irrelevant in this case but rather that its been well documented back to cstanleytech Jun 2013 #149
Except opinion ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #21
You are entitled to your opinion, not your own facts. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #65
That's the problem Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #139
I know nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #141
It was congress-people who covered up the whistleblowing of these three patriots. iemitsu Jun 2013 #175
You don't know my opinion. And my attitude is that I'm sick of the infighting elias7 Jun 2013 #186
Alas they are not simplistic nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #192
Character Assassins Octafish Jun 2013 #39
The problem is that these people see EVERYTHING as an attack on Obama Maedhros Jun 2013 #83
It is interesting how this dynamic plays out in real life. reusrename Jun 2013 #169
This means nothing to the apologist sophists on these board usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #2
Are you listening to the videos? heavy stuff. That order was highly highly classified Catherina Jun 2013 #5
just started usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #16
You are so welcome! I'm learning so much from you guys too Catherina Jun 2013 #33
Each 1 Teach 1 usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #34
And with 1.4 million timdog44 Jun 2013 #35
+1 Some heavy stuff. Hopefully the web of secrecy is starting to unravel BlueStreak Jun 2013 #32
I hope so too. Thank you for listening n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #88
I have no gotten to the videos yet. timdog44 Jun 2013 #43
If, as was suggested in the discussion cited in the OP, JDPriestly Jun 2013 #84
Only one of the three whistle-blowers suggested that iemitsu Jun 2013 #176
jaw dropping G_j Jun 2013 #48
Good because that's my reaction too. Catherina Jun 2013 #62
excellent point G_j Jun 2013 #67
But that would amount to domestic spying which the NSA swears it does not do without a warrant... Ford_Prefect Jun 2013 #138
I think it would be 2 different bombshell reactions lol! Catherina Jun 2013 #154
Re Clapper: it's not the lie, it's the coverup.....remember? dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #4
"They say those revelations only hint at the programs' reach." ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #6
I won't know what to think... Iggo Jun 2013 #7
Three NSA veterans ProSense Jun 2013 #8
K&R marions ghost Jun 2013 #9
Dirty commies! All of tem. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #11
Wow, the trickle is becomming a flood tavalon Jun 2013 #12
One excellent answer about prosecuting Edward Snowden Catherina Jun 2013 #14
Thanks for reminding me to shift back to Bush administration on this duhneece Jun 2013 #143
& Snowden shifted it quite well today saying it was an honor 2b called a traitor by Darth Vader lol! Catherina Jun 2013 #155
Drake said "Based on the response of the ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #13
oh heck yeah! you're listening! Catherina Jun 2013 #18
There is a transcript of the videos at the link in the OP. ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #20
No reason these companies timdog44 Jun 2013 #46
In this country ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #50
Sadly timdog44 Jun 2013 #52
As a group they are the only ones I can ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #53
And I'll give timdog44 Jun 2013 #56
Back at ya! ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #58
This is the main point that is being ignored: 'by a court that has not jurisdiction'. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #123
Exactly - the defense of the FISA Court ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #124
Three more narcissists! nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #17
"cross-dressing Little Red Riding Hood(s)" Catherina Jun 2013 #19
And they all are "suspiciously" articulate usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #24
Yeah, that was a humdinger of a sub-thread me b zola Jun 2013 #82
WTF? Can you link that? hootinholler Jun 2013 #98
How corrupt is this system? Could a billionaire buy NSA information? Could a person with less than AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #22
All excellent points with frightening implications. Is this not HIGH TREASON? Catherina Jun 2013 #28
But Obama is different. He's on our side. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #31
Now you are starting to get it.. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #78
I could see corporations using information about their employees & their medical records, pacalo Jun 2013 #151
+1000000 n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #156
Mr. Binney: Snowden left out the exposure of the NSA tapping of fiber optic trunk lines at ATT SF usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #23
Thomas Drake: "We are all foreigners now" usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #25
'FISA order (F for foreign) has no jurisdiction to authorize domestic surveillance' Catherina Jun 2013 #26
From the transcript: a problem they apparently *haven't* fixed magellan Jun 2013 #27
BINNEY:"And they didn't know he was doing (it)...That's the point, right? KoKo Jun 2013 #120
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #29
I can't help but note that those who seem quick to malign Snowden HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #30
I think people are missing the point watoos Jun 2013 #36
This is not about Obama. Catherina Jun 2013 #38
For a good many people, EVERYTHING is about Obama. QC Jun 2013 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author Catherina Jun 2013 #113
I had forgotten all about that. Please think nothing of it. n/t QC Jun 2013 #116
Thank you :) n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #122
The media puts it treestar Jun 2013 #146
Three decent and honorable men who tried to do the right thing. And we hear all the time that sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #37
^^^THIS^^^ No control, technobabble and word salads Catherina Jun 2013 #41
Absolutely - the government ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #44
Evil, I agree. And it's all about money and retaining the influences and power to get it. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #61
Unfortunately, ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #64
(we) spied on UN Security Council and Kofi Annan - IRAQ WAR Catherina Jun 2013 #47
I remember that scandal, which went away until the Wikileaks cables confirmed it. No one has been sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #63
I don't know. And they probably never will but Catherina Jun 2013 #66
J Edgar Hoover had this kind of power (on a smaller scale) iemitsu Jun 2013 #177
so true! nt G_j Jun 2013 #60
This statement of yours really 'got me' Lifelong Protester Jun 2013 #74
I agree. pacalo Jun 2013 #152
3 NSA Veterans Speak Out... ReRe Jun 2013 #40
Great because this is really good stuff. You're going to appreciate it n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #42
Yes, it is - thanks ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #45
You're welcome but seriously, I would not be so focused without DU Catherina Jun 2013 #55
I am anxious to listen to it all... ReRe Jun 2013 #69
Thank you. So much to listen to. I'm starting to feel like the NSA lol! Catherina Jun 2013 #70
:-) hahaha ReRe Jun 2013 #72
The round table discussion throughout the video is a must see. Articulate, polite, respectful... Melinda Jun 2013 #49
Obviously made up propaganda. None of them know PowerPoint. Safetykitten Jun 2013 #51
Lol! Good one :) n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #57
K&R'd & bookmarked. snot Jun 2013 #54
Snot, really, don't miss all 4 videos. You won't even notice the time go buy Catherina Jun 2013 #59
Tomorrow, walked in from a fire nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #68
Oh :( Glad you're able to help people. Catherina Jun 2013 #71
What was frustrating was...not being able to get to nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #73
K & R Lifelong Protester Jun 2013 #75
You're welcome but thanks for reading it Catherina Jun 2013 #77
As an aside. Hilarious quote from the NYT about revolving doors Catherina Jun 2013 #76
Finally - DUers are backing these folks upi402 Jun 2013 #79
all appear to agree.. G_j Jun 2013 #80
Edward Snowden's not the first to make claims about NSA Octafish Jun 2013 #81
"That's why Osama bin Laden's compound wasn't connected to the Internet," Catherina Jun 2013 #87
Celebrity Blackmail Octafish Jun 2013 #94
Who is that? Catherina Jun 2013 #102
George Herbert Walker Bush, BFEE Octafish Jun 2013 #103
Lol, I recognized him. His High Lizardness is unmistakable Catherina Jun 2013 #108
That is the issue that makes the flock of concerned ones show up PFQ... Octafish Jun 2013 #111
Yes. But he had an *alibi*, Gerald Ford lol. These are the criminals who run our intelligence Catherina Jun 2013 #121
Gerald Ford, the Warren Commission Wound Mover. Octafish Jun 2013 #127
:-( i cant get video to work mettamega Jun 2013 #85
What browser are you using and what problem are you having? Catherina Jun 2013 #86
We're all Germans now. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #89
All these whistleblowers.... why is *Snowden* getting traction *now*??? yodermon Jun 2013 #90
On second thought, that's not the point of this thread n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #97
Prove WHAT!? Nothing new!! None of these anylyst say ANYTHING new! uponit7771 Jun 2013 #100
He provided TOP SECRET documentary proof - as noted in the video usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #109
Of what!?!!?!? Regards uponit7771 Jun 2013 #110
"material evidence of an institutional crime" Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #112
NOT unconsitutional, Meta Data is NOT the costumers...You through out trash they can look through it uponit7771 Jun 2013 #128
Meta Data sikofit3 Jun 2013 #189
The NSA Spying on ALL American's Comunicatons usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #126
Meta Data = communications?! That's not what Meta Data is uponit7771 Jun 2013 #129
The US GOV is spying on both the metadata AND the content usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #131
Link and quote on the content, that even sounds crazy....there isn't equipment or people uponit7771 Jun 2013 #132
It's all over DU, but just because you can't imagine it only reveals your lack of imagination usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #133
"itls all over DU" is NOT a link and quote, I'm asking you to source your claim. Regards uponit7771 Jun 2013 #134
This very thread discusses the massive government spying on ALL Americans (LINK) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #136
Exactly! sikofit3 Jun 2013 #190
He provided TOP SECRET documentary proof - as noted in the video usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #106
I changed my mind and deleted my response because if people haven't even watched the video, Catherina Jun 2013 #117
Use them as an opportunity to repeat what the whistle blowers are saying usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #130
I'm not discouraged lol. And I'm very grateful others have the patience Catherina Jun 2013 #157
The NSA allegations/revelations should not come as a surprise AnnieK401 Jun 2013 #91
This issue is 20 times more important than immigration reform or the ACA Catherina Jun 2013 #101
Point taken AnnieK401 Jun 2013 #104
Thanks Annie. This is what I wrote in another thread and stand by it Catherina Jun 2013 #107
du rec. xchrom Jun 2013 #92
Bookmarking this for this next "this is Obama's fault" thread. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #93
K&R idwiyo Jun 2013 #95
k&r Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #96
This is a must read. jsr Jun 2013 #99
+1 nashville_brook Jun 2013 #153
K&R ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #114
I've heard of Binney AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #115
You're welcome. I learned a lot too. n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #118
Democracy is an illusion and the Constitution is the stage of a puppet show. L0oniX Jun 2013 #119
Clearly these three men are - Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #125
I know. They planned it years before he was even a Senator Catherina Jun 2013 #158
They wanted to make sure it was all in place -- Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #195
Thanks HHNF. I had to turn it off to not see that and not to get distracted, discouraged or angry Catherina Jun 2013 #196
Thanks, Catherina. toby jo Jun 2013 #135
Thank you Toby Jo. Excellent comments n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #159
Bkmrd to read later snagglepuss Jun 2013 #137
It's a lot of reading so if you have limited time, just listen to the videos Catherina Jun 2013 #160
kick/rec. Brilliant. Glad this story is not going away. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #140
There were both internal and DOJ attacks against these people Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #142
BTW...was shocked to see this from USA Today...And Pleased since KoKo Jun 2013 #144
Imagine if we didn't have DemocracyNow and all their archives Catherina Jun 2013 #162
three of the top five most-rec'd posts today are yours, deservedly carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #147
I'm honestly humbled by what you just wrote Catherina Jun 2013 #163
Spies here on DU too? Of course. iemitsu Jun 2013 #178
And the 10 things we didn't know about them will be posted in, 3..2..1.. joeybee12 Jun 2013 #148
+100 Earth_First Jun 2013 #150
You're welcome. Everyone who said TY is welcome. I love doing this Catherina Jun 2013 #164
Nice post. Thanks for doing it!!! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #161
thanks for posting this, everyone needs to hear these guys steve2470 Jun 2013 #165
We're obviously all being spied upon ymetca Jun 2013 #166
Thank you. It looks like a keeper, I bookmarked it to read tonight Catherina Jun 2013 #168
+1 Go Vols Jun 2013 #188
Some intelligent and informed information. Kick. Rec. Hekate Jun 2013 #167
Thanks for this post. mia Jun 2013 #170
Thank you, just started listening to the interviews. n/t slipslidingaway Jun 2013 #171
Hopefully the "Night Crowd" can take time to read Transcripts or watch the Videos of this KoKo Jun 2013 #172
Yeah! a thread worth kicking! Agony Jun 2013 #173
1,856 applications and they denied none. lol! Catherina Jun 2013 #180
I want the names of the congress-people, who these iemitsu Jun 2013 #174
Agreed! I can't speak for them but it's got to be the Gang of Eight Catherina Jun 2013 #179
Thanks for identifying these criminal members of congress. iemitsu Jun 2013 #182
And Pelosi too. And Boehner of course too. Catherina Jun 2013 #184
Nope. Just a bunck of self-important fools, iemitsu Jun 2013 #185
Transcripts do not do the interviews justice, thanks! n/t slipslidingaway Jun 2013 #181
No they don't. Not at all. I wonder if that's for legal reasons? Catherina Jun 2013 #183
Not sure why, that is why everyone should watch the videos ... slipslidingaway Jun 2013 #197
Thank you Catherina. K+R sibelian Jun 2013 #187
Huge, huge K&R woo me with science Jun 2013 #191
Kick Go Vols Jun 2013 #193
From The Atlantic: Snowden succeeded where we failed. And a list Catherina Jun 2013 #194
kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #198
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