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of course they do Skittles Jun 2013 #1
Anything that justifies more and more guns BainsBane Jun 2013 #9
same shit that motivate fox news fans Skittles Jun 2013 #10
It's fascinating how many Fox interpretations BainsBane Jun 2013 #193
NRA propganda works Skittles Jun 2013 #195
they care not a single fuck who ends up with a gun, just so long as guns are sold. KG Jun 2013 #2
and that those guns are cheap BainsBane Jun 2013 #3
By golly rrneck Jun 2013 #4
Sadly, I've seen a great deal of evidence for it BainsBane Jun 2013 #6
No you haven't. ntt rrneck Jun 2013 #7
My impression was that you were better than most BainsBane Jun 2013 #8
I'm not better than anybody. Neither are you. rrneck Jun 2013 #11
Just to clarify to anyone reading this, I meant better only in terms of less extreme BainsBane Jun 2013 #101
LOL! rrneck Jun 2013 #102
Oh, it's been confirmed at length in the responses BainsBane Jun 2013 #103
LOL again. rrneck Jun 2013 #108
I already did. I'm sorry you find reading too difficult to bother with BainsBane Jun 2013 #115
Well, I guess that's enough to start. rrneck Jun 2013 #124
I think you worry WAY too much about relationships. jmg257 Jun 2013 #181
Do you work for a living? rrneck Jun 2013 #182
Yep - work hard for a living. jmg257 Jun 2013 #187
The point is rrneck Jun 2013 #189
I wasn't appealing to your ignorance. jmg257 Jun 2013 #191
And by the way... rrneck Jun 2013 #184
Yep - and they get people killed too. jmg257 Jun 2013 #188
What's your point? nt rrneck Jun 2013 #190
Once again, that you put WAY too much emphasis on "relationships". jmg257 Jun 2013 #192
You guys are a riot. rrneck Jun 2013 #212
It does get amusing, doesn't it? jmg257 Jun 2013 #232
Fixation on single causes is a relic of the nineteenth century. rrneck Jun 2013 #234
corrrection gejohnston Jun 2013 #223
Thanks. Post edited. (Replied yesterday but it didn't show up. Damn phone.) nt rrneck Jun 2013 #236
He forgot the part about compensating for a small dick badtoworse Jun 2013 #34
Damn. I figured I'd miss something. rrneck Jun 2013 #38
Well, that leaves me out. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #49
Somebody get a ruler badtoworse Jun 2013 #51
Wait! She's coming back with a yardstick. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #225
Of course. And in the US commerce trumps human life every time Doctor_J Jun 2013 #5
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Well said derby378 Jun 2013 #13
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OK, we'll just go for the confiscation then. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #15
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OK you got me truebluegreen Jun 2013 #19
Or you could use your favorite search engine to look up Mexico and gun control derby378 Jun 2013 #23
Why would I use the google to look up Mexico and gun control truebluegreen Jun 2013 #25
Mexico: Law abiding citizens can't own guns and there's no way to take them away from the bad guys. badtoworse Jun 2013 #50
You need to work on your reading comprehesion. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #59
You got me on the 30,000 - I missed that. You did say in the US. badtoworse Jun 2013 #75
OK. I appreciate your response. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #87
I don't have a specific solution for the suicides. badtoworse Jun 2013 #194
Your opinion is wrong BainsBane Jun 2013 #111
I oppose legalization of drugs based on the effects of substance abuse that I have observed. badtoworse Jun 2013 #196
And just like the way to reduce drunk driving deaths was to reduce drunk drivers sarisataka Jun 2013 #30
Exactly my point. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #41
because wedge/cultural issues drive dollars and voters ceonupe Jun 2013 #201
"we'll" - Oh, you're volunteering to be on a confiscation team, then? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #18
Sure. Will you be playing? truebluegreen Jun 2013 #20
I'll believe you when I see you at someone's door, geared up. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #24
I'm shakin' in my socks... truebluegreen Jun 2013 #26
Why? It's not as if we both don't know you'll be nowhere near any confiscation team. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #28
I'm sure you don't realize the point of this conversation truebluegreen Jun 2013 #45
If that's what my posts "seem like" to you... Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #78
OK. Since you want to take it to extremes, truebluegreen Jun 2013 #89
Actually, I rather expect such a dissolution within 20 years, maybe less. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #117
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Indeed. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #29
the question in an unconventional war is what that 9mm will do to the family of the soilder who ... ceonupe Jun 2013 #202
"Neither side should advocate it." Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #205
As for you, all I have to say is truebluegreen Jun 2013 #47
So much for the myth of the law abiding gun owner BainsBane Jun 2013 #99
No one has a moral obligation to obey every last law. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #118
You're a funny guy truebluegreen. Llewlladdwr Jun 2013 #54
I always aim to amuse. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #63
You might as well BainsBane Jun 2013 #100
"the most mundane position" Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #119
I understand that BainsBane Jun 2013 #123
Out of touch? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #179
Of course the majority of gun owners favor expanded background checks BainsBane Jun 2013 #183
Just can't give up the bullshit amateur psychoanalysis, can you? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #186
In order for the armory to work, participation would have to be voluntary derby378 Jun 2013 #21
I keep my guns in a safe and they are just a secure there as they would be in an armory badtoworse Jun 2013 #37
Then you're all set derby378 Jun 2013 #39
I responded to Post 13 which did not mention voluntary badtoworse Jun 2013 #44
Civilian armories maybe a way to go. Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #79
Sounds a bit complicated - I'd rather we just build the armories and be done with it derby378 Jun 2013 #207
I was always surprised that Ray-guns myth survived the first "what the fuck are you talking about?" Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #213
"if it occurred as Zimmerman described" is the issue as he is a proven liar and had issues with uppityperson Jun 2013 #32
I just purchased a pistol on the internet Duckhunter935 Jun 2013 #35
Yet they do shoot people for any and every reason BainsBane Jun 2013 #42
You can't ATA us out if here, so you return to smear? Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #58
Yes, well contact the NRA BainsBane Jun 2013 #65
"gag rule?" My god, check your own post in ATA. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #68
Did you think that a request in ATA is the same as the law BainsBane Jun 2013 #83
welcome to DU Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #46
Poor little gun troll went bye bye BainsBane Jun 2013 #112
LOL. It's always funny when our "pro-gun progressives" roll out the red carpet for obvious DanTex Jun 2013 #169
Funny how many happen to join DU all at once BainsBane Jun 2013 #172
It's the "gun troll loophole". DanTex Jun 2013 #173
I recently raised that in ATA to no avail BainsBane Jun 2013 #175
No, you didn't. beevul Jun 2013 #180
That's the effect of the policy BainsBane Jun 2013 #185
Bullshit. beevul Jun 2013 #229
Your patience and thoroughness are beyond the call of duty. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #52
MIRt didn't even get him .... he got zapped by Automation ... interesting. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #209
I've seen that on occasion. What is auto-removed, and why is it used? Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #210
it is a robotic system put in place by Admin to save MIRt time and trouble ... must Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #211
Ah, more algae rhythms. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #214
yeah, to make sure we don't mildew. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #215
The gun cult terrorists have no morality coldmountain Jun 2013 #16
absolutely BainsBane Jun 2013 #40
It's pretty obvious that your third paragraph at least is aimed at recent threads petronius Jun 2013 #22
^^^^^ this is pertinent to the discussion here, thanks ^^^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #48
There you go, introducing emprical evidence versus a factually challenged emotional rant. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #64
Gun politics are how "progressives" learn to hate... Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #67
I would say your links prove the OP's point. ieoeja Jun 2013 #199
To clarify, my point in posting wasn't to prove reasonableness (or the lack thereof), petronius Jun 2013 #203
So if a person otherwise supports most "progressive"/democrat ideas but ceonupe Jun 2013 #204
The drug rackets are their obvious market Kolesar Jun 2013 #31
With rants like this it's hard to understand why gun control is a failure on the national scene aikoaiko Jun 2013 #33
Maybe the struggle would be easier with a different attitude sarisataka Jun 2013 #36
Hm. I missed that. That's a pretty shitty way to talk to anyone. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #62
Unless your pro-2A on DU, it seems. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #73
If they didn't want criminals to have guns, they would work for background checks BainsBane Jun 2013 #43
There are background checks Grisbald Jun 2013 #53
welcome to DU Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #55
FALSE. Completely false BainsBane Jun 2013 #57
20 year old "study", sample size 300 who were asked for personal opinion in a push poll. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #61
Then WTF was the NRA opposing in congress? BainsBane Jun 2013 #66
In order; Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #74
well many people in this thread assert otherwise BainsBane Jun 2013 #133
Key distinction, that. ;) n/t Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #135
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False, the poster just below said background checks are an undue burden BainsBane Jun 2013 #71
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Prove universal background checks would work. rrneck Jun 2013 #60
How could they possibly infringe on the rights of law abiding citizens? BainsBane Jun 2013 #69
That's not proof. rrneck Jun 2013 #76
Proof: I walk into a gun show BainsBane Jun 2013 #90
I assume Duckhunter935 Jun 2013 #91
Just read the report: The problem with felons purchasing guns is not necessarily the fault of owners Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #94
the other piece is allowing the ATF to enforce the law BainsBane Jun 2013 #136
See, that's a point where you and I agree. To a point, at any rate. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #137
Why shouldn't gun dealers keep the same records BainsBane Jun 2013 #139
That, in and of itself, is not burdensome. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #141
So you're worried about prosecution of criminals engaged in gun violence? BainsBane Jun 2013 #144
Less that, more accidental implications of innocents. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #148
DNA exonerates the innocent BainsBane Jun 2013 #152
DNA also condemns the innocent. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #153
because the law reqires them to keep more detailed records. gejohnston Jun 2013 #224
Yeah yeah yeah, whatever. rrneck Jun 2013 #95
ᴧᴧᴧᴧᴧᴧ HERE ᴧᴧᴧᴧᴧᴧ PROOF that they oppose background checks. BainsBane Jun 2013 #77
Well that's new. rrneck Jun 2013 #80
A call for proof of concept is hardly opposition. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #82
and denying reality, what is that? BainsBane Jun 2013 #84
When engaged in dialogue, a request for proof of unsubstantiated claims is fairly common. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #85
You ain't seen nothing yet. rrneck Jun 2013 #88
There are questions pending. rrneck Jun 2013 #86
Already had a nice breakdown of the problems with background checks as designed... Pelican Jun 2013 #114
WTF are you talking about? BainsBane Jun 2013 #116
It's odd... Pelican Jun 2013 #126
A post I agree with. Apophis Jun 2013 #120
You are good!! CokeMachine Jun 2013 #70
Didn't you know repeating back someone's post can get you hidden? Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #81
That's not my alert BainsBane Jun 2013 #106
Gosh, I hadn't even read that response BainsBane Jun 2013 #109
I can only venture a guess G_j Jun 2013 #72
I wonder how many BainsBane Jun 2013 #97
Thank you, Captain Obvious. n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #92
Amazing how many vehemently deny the obvious. BainsBane Jun 2013 #98
Confirmation that pro-gun DUers OPPOSE background checks BainsBane Jun 2013 #93
What else? I wonder if this is in the mix . . . patrice Jun 2013 #128
I don't think they've heard about that yet BainsBane Jun 2013 #130
Where did I say I hate her? You appear to be a bigot of some sort, or someone who enjoys patrice Jun 2013 #198
Susan Rice is not "currently heading the NSA" hack89 Jun 2013 #200
Thanks for the correction. I honestly did not mean it as an insult. Just a fact that her patrice Jun 2013 #216
Gun cultists are sick mwrguy Jun 2013 #104
Be sure to read the responses beginning at post 46 BainsBane Jun 2013 #105
Oh I did mwrguy Jun 2013 #107
Me thinks the closet door has started to open. BainsBane Jun 2013 #110
I think you need to get yourself another roll of tin foil. rl6214 Jun 2013 #113
Everything in the OP BainsBane Jun 2013 #121
Can you link to any post where any of what you said is true? n/t Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #122
beginning with post 46 BainsBane Jun 2013 #125
So... All this is about you not getting the pat on the head and pity party you wanted? Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #129
Yes, I expect people to act humanely BainsBane Jun 2013 #131
Please read for comprehension. You're not quite understanding. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #134
Taking care of one's own interests is key BainsBane Jun 2013 #138
And this right here's the crux of the issue. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #147
But gun proponents do stomp on our free speech rights BainsBane Jun 2013 #150
bloomberg on one issue support you while he craps on almost every other democratic idea and principa ceonupe Jun 2013 #206
Just another juvenile rant rl6214 Jun 2013 #217
It can't be helped. It's what they do. n/t oneshooter Jun 2013 #218
Some of the gun safe opposition BainsBane Jun 2013 #127
I think you're distorting a bit, mate. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #132
a poll tax? it's not voting. BainsBane Jun 2013 #140
It's the exercise of a protected right. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #142
So I assume you advocate that everyone in the United States be provided firearms free of charge. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #145
Why? Free exercise is the ability to exercise freely, not "Fo' free!" Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #149
It's your argument, not mine. If it's confusing to you, then the rest of us are fucked. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #154
It's not confusing at all, really. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #156
You admit that you must pay to exercise the 2nd amendment but then draw an arbitrary line. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #158
I concede that logically, I have little if any ground to stand on. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #160
It is impossible to have a right to something material without some sort of cost. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #162
Agreed. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #163
We only need to look to Australia to see how restrictive gun control can be highly effective. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #165
Aye, but the problem with comparisons between countries is that they're not the same. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #166
So evidently would having to purchase a media outlet BainsBane Jun 2013 #164
How about the right to life? BainsBane Jun 2013 #146
What right to life? Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #151
The right to own a firearm is a direct expression of the right to life. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #155
I see BainsBane Jun 2013 #157
So is this: Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #159
Ever hear of death or birthdays or Christmas? The Straight Story Jun 2013 #178
I will note that I find repulsive BainsBane Jun 2013 #143
I'm more a long-view humanist. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #161
Why is the right to own a gun in opposition to the right to life? Bazinga Jun 2013 #167
Your argument is fatally flawed NutmegYankee Jun 2013 #168
Nice distortion hack89 Jun 2013 #170
Yeah, links are really a distorion BainsBane Jun 2013 #171
You linked to a post where I specifically support gun safes hack89 Jun 2013 #177
This should be the theme of an ad campaign. Skidmore Jun 2013 #174
Good suggestion. BainsBane Jun 2013 #176
I live in one of the most dangerous cities in the US pintobean Jun 2013 #197
Illegal sales are still sales. DirkGently Jun 2013 #208
Yeah, because the fraction of a percent that is straw-purchased really adds to their bottom line. krispos42 Jun 2013 #219
Your information is not accurate BainsBane Jun 2013 #220
Hint: 26,000 = way way way less than one percent of the total guns sold in that same period. X_Digger Jun 2013 #221
that's not the total numbers of guns purchased BainsBane Jun 2013 #228
You have left the arena of fact completely now. beevul Jun 2013 #230
LOL, that would make the percentage LESS, not more. *snort* X_Digger Jun 2013 #233
Fraction of a percent, indeed. krispos42 Jun 2013 #222
Given that gun dealers are required to keep no records BainsBane Jun 2013 #227
How can you say such provably untrue things publicly and not expect someone will post the truth? beevul Jun 2013 #231
You shouldn't make shit up, as it tends to come back and bite you on the ass. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #235
Quelle surprise. They're in it for the money, nothing else. nt Hekate Jun 2013 #226
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