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Sun Jun 16, 2013, 04:13 PM

21. The problem is many of the claims are based only on Snowden and Greenwald.

They released a limited number of documents that don't back up all of their claims.

As a result, their credibility is actually quite important. They could have released everything, and thus taken themselves out of the discussion. But they didn't. Kinda odd for 'bold truth tellers'.

not the spying by the NSA which a FISA court already ruled has violated the constitution?

Nope, sorry.

The 'spying' as done under the Bush administration did not have a warrant. Which is why it was unconstitutional. Now they get warrants. Ta-da!

I should accept that US Senators need to get permission to tell me that?

You got that backwards. Congresspeople had to give the executive branch permission to keep things secret in 1947. Why would congresspeople not be able to change that program?

I should be OK with not knowing the existence of this ruling because it's classified?

Are you OK with not knowing the exact details of how our nuclear warheads work?

Just trying to figure out if you think it is ever OK for the government to keep secrets.

I should disregard the other whistle blowers who followed the chain of command and are ignored?

Such as? Or were their powers of ignoring so great that these people vanished from the face of the Earth?

I should trust the NSA that they are no longer violating the constitution because they said so?

No, but that's why both other branches of our government are monitoring the program....when those brave Senators you mention above bother to show up for their briefings.

I should bury my head in the sand and pretend my civil liberties haven't already been infringed upon albeit legally in most cases perhaps illegally in others since the govt made it legal to do so?

They stopped being your records in 1979. Kinda hard to claim your liberties are being violated by selling information that you don't own.

I should understand that basically EVERYTHING my govt does needs to be classified so no leaks can damage the hidden agendas of banksters and the MIC?

No, actually the vast majority of the government's activities are still public. And lots of the MIC work is somewhat public - for example, the government publishes information every time Booz wins a contract.

You just have to bother spending time digging through Fed Biz Ops, which is admittedly much less fun than railing against people.

I should accept the "least untruthful" answers given by Clapper because those are the best answers we get to hear?

Alternatively, you could wonder why congresspeople are busy setting up perjury traps instead of attending briefings. You know, actually doing oversight instead of looking good on a blog.

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