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26. See Comment #23. n/t

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CNET Story Alleging NSA Can Listen To Phone Calls w/o Warrant Faces Skepticism - BIG UPDATE [View all] Tx4obama Jun 2013 OP

Plausible deniabiliyt is one of the handiest pscot Jun 2013 #1

LOL! Took you guys long enough. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #2

Can't speak for the OP... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #6

Why the anger? CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #11

I'm laughing too hard at you all to be angry. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #14

What a load of Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #126

Why doesn't this thread reek of burning hair? OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #3

Thanks for the link! n/t Tx4obama Jun 2013 #17

The devil is always in the details. ucrdem Jun 2013 #4

I'm not going to believe this until there's more confirmation. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #5

Thanks! ucrdem Jun 2013 #7

Now you are spamming the board RobertEarl Jun 2013 #8

Calm down. ucrdem Jun 2013 #9

I'm calm as can be RobertEarl Jun 2013 #16

Why do you keep accusing people of having an agenda? Tx4obama Jun 2013 #20

Answer the easy question: Can NSA tap your phone? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #21

Yes, I have an agenda that includes more than NSA-gate. ucrdem Jun 2013 #22

You don't know? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #27

I just told you what my agenda is. Why do you keep asking? ucrdem Jun 2013 #28

Your agenda is confessed ignorance? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #30

Can I be frank with you? ucrdem Jun 2013 #32

So, you admit they can tap your phone? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #61

I don't know if the NSA can or does, ucrdem Jun 2013 #62

Wow RobertEarl Jun 2013 #65

Oh please. ucrdem Jun 2013 #68

Why should we "deal with it" ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #129

fool nebenaube Jun 2013 #86

Are you sure you're on the right discussion board? nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #91

Don't you want to hear both sides? creeksneakers2 Jun 2013 #106

Fortunately we have a whistle blower who makes it plain that they do usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #10

What illegality? ucrdem Jun 2013 #12

Harvesting and Storing of ALL Digital and Phone Records Clearly Violates the 4th Admendment usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #15

The SC has apparently decided that outside-the-envelope information isn't protected ucrdem Jun 2013 #18

Apples and Oranges usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #43

agreed.. nebenaube Jun 2013 #89

The Supreme Court ruled in 1979 that phone records are not protected by the 4th amendment Tx4obama Jun 2013 #23

Thanks! ucrdem Jun 2013 #25

That has nothing to do with Harvesting and Storing ALL Digital and Phone Communications usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #36

There is nothing in that ruling that restricts it to one person. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #60

Apples and Oranges usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #71

No, it's actually exactly on-point. jeff47 Jun 2013 #114

Apples and Oranges: This is about the massive harvesting and storing of ALL Americans Digital Comm usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #115

Saying the same thing over and over again doesn't suddenly make it true. jeff47 Jun 2013 #116

Well, that is what was revealed by the whistle blower usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #118

You should probably bother reading the documents. jeff47 Jun 2013 #119

I did, they were 4 slides, and this is not about just the documents usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #120

And if a whistleblower said we were ruled by alien lizards, would that make it true? jeff47 Jun 2013 #130

We the people got more than that, TOP SECRET Documentation, too usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #131

Not this again PSPS Jun 2013 #37

??? CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #13

Ahh, there it is... Bush diid it, it must be OK RobertEarl Jun 2013 #19

Wrong - you missed my point. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #124

In our country we have something called the "Separation of Powers" for just this purpose usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #24

See Comment #23. n/t Tx4obama Jun 2013 #26

Way to totally ignore the post RobertEarl Jun 2013 #34

The issue is NOT wiretapping. NSA gets Court Orders to wiretap phones. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #39

You are way out in right field RobertEarl Jun 2013 #47

Carefull... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #51

As I have so recently learned. Dragonfli Jun 2013 #83

NSA has never said they do that. The nut at CNET wrote an article that said that. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #52

You wrote: RobertEarl Jun 2013 #55

And also see Comment #50. n/t Tx4obama Jun 2013 #54

The CNET screwed up their article. Muller and Nadler were talking about 'meta-data' Tx4obama Jun 2013 #73

Is Al Gore a friend of yours? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #75

See Comment #36. n/t usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #38

No. Congress voted in monitoring overseas calls. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #29

I think Obama may be clueless RobertEarl Jun 2013 #31

I don't know what to think... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #33

I doubt he knows the details RobertEarl Jun 2013 #41

If he doesn't know what's going on... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #46

Nadler is very smart, and decent MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #35

Author of the CNET article also reported that Al Gore invented the internet. Gonna believe that nut? Tx4obama Jun 2013 #40

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #44

He's an attorney.... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #48

LOL. I guess I'll have to add another reason to my "most often used" list PSPS Jun 2013 #42

1a. It's Dick Cheney's fault jsr Jun 2013 #109

He misspoke in 2012 as well nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #45

Okay I just heard the Nadler-Meuller exchange and this is what it sounded like: ucrdem Jun 2013 #49

Why? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #56

Why what? ucrdem Jun 2013 #57

^^^^^^^^^^^^If you only read one post in this thread READ THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ pkdu Jun 2013 #59

Thank you! Here's the link again, ucrdem Jun 2013 #64

Words matter. What they said is not what Nadler thought they meant. DevonRex Jun 2013 #63

Nsa can tap your phone RobertEarl Jun 2013 #67

Bush left office on January 20 2009. ucrdem Jun 2013 #69

No shit RobertEarl Jun 2013 #70

And cnet very carefully didn't report Mueller's response. And misquoted Feinstein. DevonRex Jun 2013 #50

There's a lot of sauce in that article and a very meager meatball. ucrdem Jun 2013 #53

Devon, what do you think RobertEarl Jun 2013 #58

Well, Robert, DevonRex Jun 2013 #74

Thanks RobertEarl Jun 2013 #78

That huge complex in Utah is for the storage of it all. DevonRex Jun 2013 #111

thanks for that post! Whisp Jun 2013 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author DevonRex Jun 2013 #121

If the NSA is engaged in warrantless wiretapping again, lots of us will be quite angry. But struggle4progress Jun 2013 #66

I do agree that skepticism is always warranted. But some here are only skeptical of whistle-blowers rhett o rick Jun 2013 #76

Here's a link to a Little Green Footballs article, it a pretty good one... Tx4obama Jun 2013 #72

Good link. Nadler's "specific information" isn't exactly specific, is it? ucrdem Jun 2013 #77

Yeah, there are two really good parts in there... Tx4obama Jun 2013 #79

The metadata point is interesting. ucrdem Jun 2013 #80

Using LGF for a source? HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #81

I don't know anything about LGF, but their VIDEO and transcript and commentary in the article... Tx4obama Jun 2013 #85

A closed door intelligence briefing doesn't have a public transcript. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #90

Did you read the excerpt in Comment #79? He referred to what he heard in the briefing at the hearing Tx4obama Jun 2013 #93

You're saying this C-SPAN video is fake? ucrdem Jun 2013 #94

It reposts and transcribes a C-SPAN video of a House judiciary committee hearing. ucrdem Jun 2013 #87

The Judiciary Committee meeting was when Nadler questioned Mueller. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #92

That's just the point I made in #49, and it's why Nadler struck out. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #95

Are you deliberately misrepresenting tje facts, or merely incredibly dense? HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #96

Neither, and you're not telling us anything we didn't know. ucrdem Jun 2013 #97

You really think Nadler mixed up the FBI axnd NSA? HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #98

Read the transcript if you can't see the video. We've given you the links. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #99

When did Democrats turn against Whistleblowers? caseymoz Jun 2013 #82

+!000 Dragonfli Jun 2013 #88

Well said! Quantess Jun 2013 #100

It is truly bizarre BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author nebenaube Jun 2013 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #101

I hear you. randome Jun 2013 #108

I've noticed that many of these people are the same ones who were only around last time there was okaawhatever Jun 2013 #117

Feel free to log off. Please. morningfog Jun 2013 #128

Now the Obama supporters like Huffington Post? burnodo Jun 2013 #102

Yes...those evil Obama supporters link to Huffington Post Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #103

Apparently you've forgotten that HuffPo is regularly pilloried burnodo Jun 2013 #105

Yep, that's it then. This is the desperate story that is going to make all the revelations magically Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #104

don't you have a rape case to laugh at or something? sod off dionysus Jun 2013 #122

Oh, have I made it into the He-Man-Women-Haters-Clubhouse? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #123

A lawyer/politician misunderstanding information technology? Impossible! FarCenter Jun 2013 #110

UPDATE below Tx4obama Jun 2013 #112

Thanks! Scurrilous Jun 2013 #125

LOL..... ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #127