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In reply to the discussion: Snowden saw what I saw: surveillance criminally subverting the constitution Thomas Drake [View all]SlimJimmy
(3,180 posts)67. I'm not saying it's a police state. You seem to be the only one making that contention.
I'm saying that the rejection rate is extremely low, and has the feeling of being rubber stamped.
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xchrom
Jun 2013
OP
You say the FISA Court is a joke, presumably because they haven't disallowed any warrants.
randome
Jun 2013
#5
In 2011, there were only about 1700 requests for warrants made to the FISA courts.
JoePhilly
Jun 2013
#26
I heard on the news that 11 had been denied. Don't know if appeals or lower. nt
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#40
Thank you for that. Why doesn't the press report things like this? They want the hysteria to
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#52
YUP ... and have you noticed they stopped saying "wiretap" and shifted to "spying"
JoePhilly
Jun 2013
#55
Er... How can it be very careful if they get a warrant to collect info on EVERYONE ?
limpyhobbler
Jun 2013
#13
'Right' and 'wrong' are not settled by someone stealing info then running to Hong Kong.
randome
Jun 2013
#41
People can decide for themselves if mass surveillance is wrong. That's why it's vital that the Ame
limpyhobbler
Jun 2013
#64
I'm with you. A simple look at the approvals vs disapprovals tells us all we need
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#27
We're not talking about a "police state", we're discussing the rubber stamping
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#51
Actually, you seem to be the only one claiming that in this thread. But with that said
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#65
I'm not saying it's a police state. You seem to be the only one making that contention.
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#67
I would say the Obama Administration is more careful and more trustworthy than the Bush Admin.
randome
Jun 2013
#39
We know that for a fact given that Bush bypassed the FISA court and Obama has not.
JoePhilly
Jun 2013
#47
FISC is a joke. The judges are appointed by SCOTUS (Roberts) - chances they're Dem appointees?
Melinda
Jun 2013
#73
We're on the same wavelength: Three Things Every American Should Know about Corporate McPravda...
Octafish
Jun 2013
#34
Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, wants to protect government whistleblowers...
Octafish
Jun 2013
#57