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In reply to the discussion: Because President Obama is NOT evil; that is why many of us trust and defend him... [View all]Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)126. LOL! You couldn't be more wrong.
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Because President Obama is NOT evil; that is why many of us trust and defend him... [View all]
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
OP
People praise FDR, LBJ and complain that Obama should be like these presidents...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#19
I would argue that it is not the Obama supporters who make it all about Obama the man.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#62
That's right. It was about "the man" because the post is in DIRECT response to those
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#142
"Unreasonable" searches and seizures says to me that it's not a perfect right...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#68
I agree with you, thanks for expressing your point of view here & the OP
Voice for Peace
Jun 2013
#122
I haven't heard it. And I've not heard any criticism of FDR either. I'm on DU daily...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#100
Actually it IS true. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard someone complain that Obama
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#99
I didn't say Obama is an FDR, nor did I claim that he should be. Again, read carefully...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#212
No. Please read carefully. I've heard many complaints, particularly from the political left,
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#177
FDR and LBJ deserve praise & I guess I shouldn't be surprised at your citing only the negatives
whathehell
Jun 2013
#115
You therefore prove my point that these are good men who just happened to make bad,
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#136
Of course every president--hell, every politician--has to deal with people who hate him.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#174
The "hate him" charge was definitely not directed at you. I've read your posts and they are
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#193
I'm only responding to the complaints that Obama is NOT like LBJ or FDR.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#171
I agree, and you make good points. However, I have seldom heard anyone on the left
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#134
I agree with you, but I also think we have a responsibility to hold elected officials accountable...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#152
Then you will have no basis to complain about methods when evil again resides in the White House
Fumesucker
Jun 2013
#2
You don't know me. Don't lump me into a category that you think I ought to be.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#31
Then don't elect Jeb, elect Hillary or Cory Booker or Deval Patrick or Michelle or Janet or Kathleen
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#11
Well, she was during the 2008 Democratic parties. When Samatha Powers called Hillary that,
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#35
During that Primay cycle, Obama employed ex gay hate preacher McClurkin as his surrogate
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#129
I'm not the one who can't deal with criticism. I started this thread. "Deal with it"
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#65
Yes it does. The US Supreme Court decides what is or isn't. Don't like the 5 bad ones? Why
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#58
On the contrary: I haven't defended everything Obama has done. I defend him here
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#17
That's your opinion. Don't call names. You don't know me or anything about me.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#71
Deal with what? You're not making sense. Snarky comments don't count.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#103
I don't have any problems whatsoever with your opinions. We agree to disagree. I'm good with that.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#137
So drawing a distinction between good and evil rests in the demesne of extreme ideologues?
demwing
Jun 2013
#165
LBJ wasn't evil either and yet he gave us the Gulf of Tonkin which led to the Vietnam War (conflict)
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#12
It might be lawful, but it's very wrong. As wrong as what Roosevelt and LBJ did.
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#16
Rather than repeal it wholesale, I think we should look at each provision and make
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#89
If you believe that Bush is evil then you have to also believe that LBJ was evil
JW2020
Jun 2013
#33
And yet, so many on the so-called Political Left, argue that Obama should be like LBJ. Go figure...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#36
I didn't say it was a law, I said it was *lawful*. The executive order he issued falls
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#87
The internment of the Japanese was done for economic reasons, not military necessity.
OnyxCollie
Jun 2013
#175
Of course. I expected the response. We have so many Obama hate threads...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#15
It's the defense of Ron Paul, in particular, that scares the shit out of me.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#22
Call your members of Congress. Demand a repeal of the Patriot Act!!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#38
I am very politically active. In fact I work for the federal government. If anyone should be worried
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#73
I agree with you. Obama is irrelevant. Call members of Congress. Demand a repeal of the Patriot Act!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#39
They passed it, they fund it to this day. Despite Rand Paul's circus, he didn't stop it.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#210
You make a good point. Politicians are politicians, but I definitely trust Obama more than most.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#40
This is not about Obama. Call members of Congress. Demand a repeal of the Patriot Act!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#43
Call your members of Congress. Demand a repeal of the Patriot Act. It's not funny. Never was.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#46
I'd like to ask you to call my members of Congress and thank them for keeping these issues
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#167
I've done what you have suggested. For instance, I am very lucky to have two fairly progressive
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#176
No. Your failure is ascribing supernatural powers to a human being. Your failure is failing
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#76
You don't need super powers to nominate agency heads that advocate for the people rather
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#163
Yes, that is how I feel.. plus the fact that what President Obama is doing is actually legal
DCBob
Jun 2013
#53
Giving the Government this power does not end with Obama. You are trusting all future Presidents.
dkf
Jun 2013
#56
So then let's put our energy into doing something about it. First, give the president an OVERWHELMIN
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#78
And that's why I emphasize that we should elect more *progressives*...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#104
Agreed. That's reasonable. Let's agree, then, to stay active. Give him overwhelming majorities
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#79
Agreed. And if that is so, call Congress. Demand a repeal of the Patriot Act.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#86
Nah. It says that I wait for the facts before I condemn people. It says that I am reasonable.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#84
Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. What are you going to do about it? Vote Third Party?
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#95
Your opinion. If you care about protecting your rights, call members of Congress. Demand a repeal
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#85
No, and that's why we need a Congress who will exercise oversight and reduce these
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#145
No, WE give government that type of power. If you want to change it, call members of Congress...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#101
A clarification about why I started this thread addressing the premise of "evil vs. good"
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#93
Can you support that assertion? Got any examples of that which you see all the time for
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#135
I will take a while for me to search for that, but I guess I could do it if I had enough time.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#138
The way to clarify is to support your claims about others, claims you made and expanded
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#153
You mean, don't let his Justice Department catch me. It's not always about Obama.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#143
Expanding the already-largest spy program in history far beyond what Bush did
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2013
#107
See my response, #146. Demand a repeal of the Patriot Act and support Adam Schiff's bill...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#148
If you're concerned, please support Adam Schiff's bill and demand that Congress
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#150
"I truly believe that the president is NOT an evil man" Great. What about the NEXT president
panzerfaust
Jun 2013
#111
Again, if we all care so much about this "unlimited power," then let's pressure Congress to
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#146
no only that, but the left can't say it ever got obama's back, nor that of most dem reps
certainot
Jun 2013
#116
I didn't say Obama was perfect. Even if you reread my OP, I clearly state that I do not believe that
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#182
I repeated this several times: Demand that Congress repeal the Patriot Act
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#183
I've addressed your snarkiness upthread. Read if you're curious for my answer.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#151
If you insist on using faith terms I'll debate in those terms...can you?
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#147
You're a bit closer to the educational system than many posting here, I suspect Jamaal.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#211
Then, there's other things we can do. Start by supporting Adam Schiff's bill to
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#185
Thanks. Exactly my point. We can argue that he should make better decisions...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#192
Why in hell isn't Obama doing ANYTHING to eliminate the Bush/Cheney surveillance state laws????
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#203
And whistle blowing only works if a law has been broken. A law hasn't been broken. ;)
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2013
#215
When someone stabs you in the back in life, you'll have noone to blame but yourself
AZ Progressive
Jun 2013
#208