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42. "NSA Bombshell Story Falling Apart Under Scrutiny". Don't they all eventually?

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NSA Bombshell Story Falling Apart Under Scrutiny; Key Facts Turning Out to Be Inaccurate [View all] babylonsister Jun 2013 OP

Just like the other three malaise Jun 2013 #1

Just another hit piece against Greenwald, and total BS. leveymg Jun 2013 #74

Agreed n/t malaise Jun 2013 #80

Greenwald never asserted that the NSA had direct access. He reported Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #2

There are other laughable speculations from the Internet Blog called The Daily Banter.. bvar22 Jun 2013 #85

OP's don't READ...and Readers aren't "OP's" But Good POST...K&R! KoKo Jun 2013 #97

another smear quickly debunked. Another boy who cried wolf story. graham4anything Jun 2013 #3

You are wrong. Greenwald reported directly from the NSA documents Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #9

Well then... busterbrown Jun 2013 #19

bahaha giftedgirl77 Jun 2013 #106

NO ONE has accused the Obama Admin of being "worse than Bush" Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #4

+1 villager Jun 2013 #27

+1 Me too SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #30

Actually that is exactly the talking point going around in r/w circles still_one Jun 2013 #47

. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #51

"no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause" BlueStreak Jun 2013 #73

people in right wing circles are criticizing Bush? burnodo Jun 2013 #122

What they are saying is "bush was good compared to the president" still_one Jun 2013 #132

Who said Obama is worse than Bush? East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #155

Let's start with Jeremy Scahill: ucrdem Jun 2013 #158

Had to look him up. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #161

Me three. zeemike Jun 2013 #53

as bad as Bush, not worse. RILib Jun 2013 #67

I will go with Worse than Bush... bvar22 Jun 2013 #87

Boy, almost everyone here is lucky the alien and sedition act is not still in the Constitution! xtraxritical Jun 2013 #128

Adopting the hated Alien and Sedition Acts was, of course, a reason why Jefferson replaced Adams. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #152

+1 LWolf Jun 2013 #59

+1 golddigger Jun 2013 #124

Except Scahill, Greenwald, Chomsky, Hedges and the rest of the ratpack, repeatedly. ucrdem Jun 2013 #153

I searched the entire Democracy Now article for the word "worse" Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #154

"Obama pushed the Cheney agenda far beyond what a President McCain or a President Romney would have ucrdem Jun 2013 #157

Scahill never used the word "worse" Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #162

Hoo boy. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #163

Basically, what else CAN you say at this point? Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #164

I Think We RobinA Jun 2013 #5

+1000 blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #65

Haha. No kidding. tblue Jun 2013 #68

Nailed It. bvar22 Jun 2013 #89

Well the President says it was a 'leak' that shouldn't have happened. So is he unaware that sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #6

The President also says that Amercans are not targeted. randome Jun 2013 #11

"Better get their stories straight..." Generic Other Jun 2013 #14

The new meme is the 4th doesn't apply to electronic records of our phones and emails Dragonfli Jun 2013 #17

LOL! nt OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #21

The "meme" as you call it, came directly from the ACLU website cheapdate Jun 2013 #75

The applicability of the fourth amendment to the online space is complicated. Here's a good article cascadiance Jun 2013 #101

Just like the IRA story treestar Jun 2013 #7

I think the Irish Rebublican Army is real. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #32

My IRA PDittie Jun 2013 #58

The source is a "disgruntled intelligence officer" deminks Jun 2013 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author meow2u3 Jun 2013 #18

Have you watched the interview with the leaker? Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #83

My error meow2u3 Jun 2013 #84

Greenwald's subsequent Tweets and announcements show a great deal of anger. randome Jun 2013 #10

Maybe his anger is because of the shennagins of our govt., premium Jun 2013 #16

You mean like collecting the phone metadata of non-Americans? randome Jun 2013 #24

No, I mean like collecting the phone metadata of Americans. premium Jun 2013 #26

Well, supposedly only the data of non-Americans is being collected. randome Jun 2013 #34

Oh, I believe the President thinks that, premium Jun 2013 #36

Actually, he claims no hero status for himself but reserves that for the whistle-blower. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #22

Perhaps the simple-minded Manicheans are getting to him. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #40

That don't seem any more angry than any other of his Tweets since he started Tweeting. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #119

Don't be calling greenwald on his lies and expect him to not be pissed. Cha Jun 2013 #121

Baghdad Bob says... warrprayer Jun 2013 #12

They distort, some overreact. Lather, rinse, repeat. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #13

"NSA attaining data about Americans as a means of fighting evildoers" Dragonfli Jun 2013 #15

fighting evildoers AlbertCat Jun 2013 #55

You didn't complain about the NSA reporting on Jan 22, 2009. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #20

Reasonable question.... /nt think Jun 2013 #33

Good question... usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #35

That was the last day we thought anyone was actually going to do something about it. Octafish Jun 2013 #37

OP got rinsed LittleBlue Jun 2013 #57

I'm so impressed you went to so much effort! babylonsister Jun 2013 #60

No effort involved. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #72

Why is it that some people assume.... ReRe Jun 2013 #81

nice evasion burnodo Jun 2013 #123

That will leave a mark. bvar22 Jun 2013 #90

There's a question. n/t Skip Intro Jun 2013 #95

+100000 Hypocrisy reeks. woo me with science Jun 2013 #98

Busted laborinvain Jun 2013 #115

It's not just the OP but many other posters here as well. Apophis Jun 2013 #151

NOW: not a big deal... BEFORE: they don't have the capability, old news, Obama haters usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #23

They will go straight to vilification of course, it's in the handbook Dragonfli Jun 2013 #29

We are already hearing about a "disgruntled" intelligence officer. deurbano Jun 2013 #61

you forgot questions about their sexuality Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #149

You nailed that one! Dragonfli Jun 2013 #150

quislings don't need rebuttals when prejudices will do Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #156

Yeah, unfortunately no one hears this part. AnnieK401 Jun 2013 #25

Sloppy journalism? Laelth Jun 2013 #28

It's sloppy. Once you research the history of this issue, you get a different picture. stevenleser Jun 2013 #129

Didn't get to listen to your show. Laelth Jun 2013 #130

He was sloppy to the point of altering the meaning of these issues completely stevenleser Jun 2013 #131

Every thing you say is true, afaik. It's legal. It's old. There's nominal oversight. Laelth Jun 2013 #133

If you repeal FISA, warrantless wiretapping becomes legal. We can fix or replace it with something stevenleser Jun 2013 #134

K&R Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #31

The OP is a very optimistic look at humbled_opinion Jun 2013 #38

But, the fact that a court order requires Verizon to maintain JDPriestly Jun 2013 #39

Great reply jdpriestly! n/t lordsummerisle Jun 2013 #54

JDP...please do this as an OP at some point.. KoKo Jun 2013 #79

K&R ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ReRe Jun 2013 #88

great post! reusrename Jun 2013 #127

One of THE most logical posts SoapBox Jun 2013 #135

The WaPo scrubbed the story in its updates. Octafish Jun 2013 #41

"NSA Bombshell Story Falling Apart Under Scrutiny". Don't they all eventually? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #42

Question for those so enthusiastically spewing this drivel... Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #43

well well well. Whisp Jun 2013 #44

" . . . the collapse of journalism" No shit. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #45

I am shocked!!!! timdog44 Jun 2013 #46

A shocking example of flamingdem Jun 2013 #49

Two 'n's for nut case. Like Beck! And here's a formatting tip. freshwest Jun 2013 #71

Apples to oranges, mincemeat to cheese Taverner Jun 2013 #48

And bullshit timdog44 Jun 2013 #50

All an attempt to supress Dem voters maxrandb Jun 2013 #52

+1,000 freshwest Jun 2013 #64

Thanks for posting emulatorloo Jun 2013 #56

well heaven05 Jun 2013 #62

According to your profile, you didn't join DU until 2012. bvar22 Jun 2013 #91

you heaven05 Jun 2013 #94

If you are going to insist that no one was protesting the Patriot Act... bvar22 Jun 2013 #107

I heaven05 Jun 2013 #112

Your EXACT words from Post 62, heaven05 who joined in 2012. bvar22 Jun 2013 #136

you heaven05 Jun 2013 #137

Bluster and Name Calling doesn't change anything. bvar22 Jun 2013 #138

easy shoot down? heaven05 Jun 2013 #139

Thanks for the Concession. bvar22 Jun 2013 #142

whatever heaven05 Jun 2013 #147

Appears to be a blog post spinning damage control for Obama n/t brentspeak Jun 2013 #63

Too bad it is factually based n/t emulatorloo Jun 2013 #77

Do tell. Has the spying stopped? Has it? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #99

What facts are those, emulatorloo? bvar22 Jun 2013 #105

"became entwined in the American worldview" Roland99 Jun 2013 #66

"the unforgivable exploitation of fear in the days after 9/11" and "unnecessary searches and indepat Jun 2013 #69

How many times does Greenwald have to shit the bed before his fans notice? MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #70

Really...that's kind of disgusting. What's with this kind of reply? KoKo Jun 2013 #82

Their transparency page speaks volumes, as well Electric Monk Jun 2013 #92

Gets Even More Disgusting ...Looking at those Links........EOM KoKo Jun 2013 #96

Thanks. bvar22 Jun 2013 #102

The screen name, the attitude, and the conservative views bring to mind Tom "the Hammer" Delay Dragonfli Jun 2013 #125

Conservatives hate Obama. Just like you guys. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #140

Plenty of Conservatives love him! Dragonfli Jun 2013 #143

sorry, you can have that place and the Old Elm Tree. Ill stick to DEMOCRATIC Underground. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #144

You have supported every third way conservative feeler Your idol has put out! Dragonfli Jun 2013 #146

You've been wrong every time so far. Why will you be right this time? MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #148

Just because journalism is dead doesnt mean our govment isnt spying on us. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #76

I want the full facts on this emulatorloo Jun 2013 #78

Transcripts and Links are Out There on DU..Front Page to give you info..or KoKo Jun 2013 #100

New stuff is coming out fast and furious. You need not be obnoxious emulatorloo Jun 2013 #111

So if NSA isn't collecting info.... ReRe Jun 2013 #86

Good Questions There...there are never much answers but I'm EVER Hopeful... KoKo Jun 2013 #103

What typos? ;-) ReRe Jun 2013 #114

Well Sister, We Will Have To Agree To Disagree - Many Of Us No Longer Trust Obama Or This Government cantbeserious Jun 2013 #93

Story reeks of major RepubliStank (R) Berlum Jun 2013 #104

K&R This place has been a mess this week. Number23 Jun 2013 #108

like all the other faux "scandals" sad-cafe Jun 2013 #109

Either AQ is "on its heels" and "only a shell of its former self", as we've been told by Obama... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #110

Yeah. That dichotomy is an oldie but goodie. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #116

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #113

This is just another hit piece to make people think it is totally acceptable for the government GoneFishin Jun 2013 #117

Shoot the messengers! GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #118

Prism : How the NSA wiretapped the internet TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #120

And besides, have you seen that man in a bathing suit. Jakes Progress Jun 2013 #126

I can't get over how much you've changed since Obama was elected cali Jun 2013 #141

tssk.. ForeignandDomestic Jun 2013 #145

Fighting evildoers? AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #159

Wow! If only most of the population zeeland Jun 2013 #160