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In reply to the discussion: NSA Bombshell Story Falling Apart Under Scrutiny; Key Facts Turning Out to Be Inaccurate [View all]Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)2. Greenwald never asserted that the NSA had direct access. He reported
that the NSA documents made that claim (fact) and he also reported that the tech companies denied that claim (fact).
The WAPO describes today when direct access really isn't direct access:
One top-secret document obtained by The Post described it as Collection directly from the servers of these U.S. Service Providers: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple.
Intelligence community sources said that this description, although inaccurate from a technical perspective, matches the experience of analysts at the NSA. From their workstations anywhere in the world, government employees cleared for PRISM access may task the system and receive results from an Internet company without further interaction with the companys staff.
In intelligence parlance, PRISM is the code name for a signals intelligence address, or SIGAD, in this case US-984XN, according to the NSAs official classified description of PRISM and sources interviewed by The Post. The SIGAD is used to designate a source of electronic information, a point of access for the NSA and a method of extraction. In those terms, PRISM is a not a computer system but a set of technologies and operations for collecting intelligence from Facebook, Google and other large Internet companies.
According to a more precise description contained in a classified NSA inspector generals report, also obtained by The Post, PRISM allows collection managers [to send] content tasking instructions directly to equipment installed at company-controlled locations, rather than directly to company servers. The companies cannot see the queries that are sent from the NSA to the systems installed on their premises, according to sources familiar with the PRISM process.
Intelligence community sources said that this description, although inaccurate from a technical perspective, matches the experience of analysts at the NSA. From their workstations anywhere in the world, government employees cleared for PRISM access may task the system and receive results from an Internet company without further interaction with the companys staff.
In intelligence parlance, PRISM is the code name for a signals intelligence address, or SIGAD, in this case US-984XN, according to the NSAs official classified description of PRISM and sources interviewed by The Post. The SIGAD is used to designate a source of electronic information, a point of access for the NSA and a method of extraction. In those terms, PRISM is a not a computer system but a set of technologies and operations for collecting intelligence from Facebook, Google and other large Internet companies.
According to a more precise description contained in a classified NSA inspector generals report, also obtained by The Post, PRISM allows collection managers [to send] content tasking instructions directly to equipment installed at company-controlled locations, rather than directly to company servers. The companies cannot see the queries that are sent from the NSA to the systems installed on their premises, according to sources familiar with the PRISM process.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-company-officials-internet-surveillance-does-not-indiscriminately-mine-data/2013/06/08/5b3bb234-d07d-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_story_1.html
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NSA Bombshell Story Falling Apart Under Scrutiny; Key Facts Turning Out to Be Inaccurate [View all]
babylonsister
Jun 2013
OP
There are other laughable speculations from the Internet Blog called The Daily Banter..
bvar22
Jun 2013
#85
Boy, almost everyone here is lucky the alien and sedition act is not still in the Constitution!
xtraxritical
Jun 2013
#128
Adopting the hated Alien and Sedition Acts was, of course, a reason why Jefferson replaced Adams.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#152
Except Scahill, Greenwald, Chomsky, Hedges and the rest of the ratpack, repeatedly.
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#153
"Obama pushed the Cheney agenda far beyond what a President McCain or a President Romney would have
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#157
Well the President says it was a 'leak' that shouldn't have happened. So is he unaware that
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#6
The new meme is the 4th doesn't apply to electronic records of our phones and emails
Dragonfli
Jun 2013
#17
The applicability of the fourth amendment to the online space is complicated. Here's a good article
cascadiance
Jun 2013
#101
Actually, he claims no hero status for himself but reserves that for the whistle-blower.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#22
That don't seem any more angry than any other of his Tweets since he started Tweeting.
Hissyspit
Jun 2013
#119
That was the last day we thought anyone was actually going to do something about it.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#37
NOW: not a big deal... BEFORE: they don't have the capability, old news, Obama haters
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#23
It's sloppy. Once you research the history of this issue, you get a different picture.
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#129
He was sloppy to the point of altering the meaning of these issues completely
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#131
Every thing you say is true, afaik. It's legal. It's old. There's nominal oversight.
Laelth
Jun 2013
#133
If you repeal FISA, warrantless wiretapping becomes legal. We can fix or replace it with something
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#134
"NSA Bombshell Story Falling Apart Under Scrutiny". Don't they all eventually?
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#42
"the unforgivable exploitation of fear in the days after 9/11" and "unnecessary searches and
indepat
Jun 2013
#69
The screen name, the attitude, and the conservative views bring to mind Tom "the Hammer" Delay
Dragonfli
Jun 2013
#125
sorry, you can have that place and the Old Elm Tree. Ill stick to DEMOCRATIC Underground.
MjolnirTime
Jun 2013
#144
You have supported every third way conservative feeler Your idol has put out!
Dragonfli
Jun 2013
#146
Just because journalism is dead doesnt mean our govment isnt spying on us.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#76
Well Sister, We Will Have To Agree To Disagree - Many Of Us No Longer Trust Obama Or This Government
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#93
Either AQ is "on its heels" and "only a shell of its former self", as we've been told by Obama...
cherokeeprogressive
Jun 2013
#110
This is just another hit piece to make people think it is totally acceptable for the government
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#117