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Republicans are playing Democrats like a fiddle [View all] Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 OP

Well said. Comatose Sphagetti Jun 2013 #1

It's the Bush families way of getting Jeb nominated. BTW, Rand Paul is part of Team Bush. graham4anything Jun 2013 #2

+1 ucrdem Jun 2013 #46

Same to all of you guys. freshwest Jun 2013 #119

If they overthrew Boehner... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #111

Yeah but some Democrats are supplying the music. byeya Jun 2013 #3

Worse. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #10

The number of posts here faulting the President for FISA data mining that was BUSH's baby xtraxritical Jun 2013 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Jun 2013 #49

Pres. Obama could, today, with the swipe of a pen, premium Jun 2013 #80

From Huffington Post... xtraxritical Jun 2013 #95

The article only talks about the Congressional role, and doesn't address the issue SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #101

Executive orders are only good for the duration of the term of the president issuing them. Skidmore Jun 2013 #114

I agree with you, but while the President is pushing Congress to enact legislation SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #115

We have a Republican majority in the House Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #126

True, premium Jun 2013 #172

wishing heaven05 Jun 2013 #97

"I believe the President wishes Congress would change the law as only Congress can." rhett o rick Jun 2013 #120

I agree Andy823 Jun 2013 #4

Yes, divide and conquer Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #127

oh that is pure BS. boston bean Jun 2013 #5

It is amazing the attempts being made to have us goosestep in line... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #11

Say or think whatever you want, but vote siligut Jun 2013 #45

Hey, all I did was vote for the.... AlbertCat Jun 2013 #59

I think that you are missing the point Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #128

Nope, it's realism. They know the Patriot act was passed with bipartisan majorities pnwmom Jun 2013 #103

+100 n/t hopemountain Jun 2013 #110

Ofcourse! Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #129

When will Democrats ever learn to control the message? When will they learn to play morningfog Jun 2013 #6

because they defend republican bullshit. They aren't really against it. boston bean Jun 2013 #8

Politics is not a sports game and should not be played as one. RC Jun 2013 #68

Because the corporate media One of the 99 Jun 2013 #100

Someone has decided that the media will highlight this Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #131

On top of Benghazi/IRS/AP Leakgate BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #167

Hook. Line. and Sinker, jbond56 Jun 2013 #7

I'm an "old poster"... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #34

What Bush did was unconstitutional. jbond56 Jun 2013 #88

And it STILL is unconstitutional no matter that it's happening now under OBAMA. alarimer Jun 2013 #178

Many people here on DU who you and others claim "accept" surveillance, cheapdate Jun 2013 #90

Everyone should read #90 jbond56 Jun 2013 #91

...and reject it for lack of actual facts. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author cheapdate Jun 2013 #99

Your rejection is duly noted. cheapdate Jun 2013 #105

Facts are needed. I know... Fox News has rendered "facts" as optional.... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #109

You've posted three times in this discussion between you and I. cheapdate Jun 2013 #116

bzzt... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #93

Congress is the branch that revises or repeals Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #144

Been here seven years and think the same thing. When the previous admin was SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #102

Everybody's mining data, get used to it. Where do you think all your spam comes from? xtraxritical Jun 2013 #117

I think I'll remain uncomfortable with my fourth amendment rights being violated. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #118

The spying thing Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #139

Yes, any democrat who is upset about being spied on is a hapless rube whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #9

Republican spying is much much worse than Democratic spying donchyaknow. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #13

You've obviously been possessed by an evil republican entity whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #15

You professional leftist... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #112

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #20

So you claim whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #23

I choose to live in the real world ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #26

I think not whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #27

The government wants this info so they can "keep you safe" and you're willing to give up hughee99 Jun 2013 #37

there heaven05 Jun 2013 #89

They did feel that slippery slope. - They Thought They Were Free: Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #160

thank you heaven05 Jun 2013 #173

Very welcome, heaven! It is chilling how much that book resonates today. Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #177

yes heaven05 Jun 2013 #179

I won't ever forget it. It has been heartbreaking to see the fall and be Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #190

Nice post Oppenheimer siligut Jun 2013 #48

And a short while ago no one was mining any of my data. They would of course A Simple Game Jun 2013 #42

You are not being spied on treestar Jun 2013 #38

That's an opinion whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #41

The government continually tracking your whereabouts is not even in contention here treestar Jun 2013 #44

That's your faith-based opinion whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #55

YOu answer, you are the one saying they have too much power treestar Jun 2013 #58

What can it do? whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #64

What are the limits? There lies the problem. They use super secret handshake courts A Simple Game Jun 2013 #57

Even if 'they' were Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #132

wow backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #165

So I should be pissed, outraged even, when a Republican President nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #12

Obama is doing more than enforcing it B2G Jun 2013 #24

If Congress passed it and enabled it Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #135

Well yeah. treestar Jun 2013 #40

This program should have been defunded by congress nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #54

Then why blame the President that congress did not do so? treestar Jun 2013 #61

Cause I don't know, he is the Chief executive nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #63

He is the Chief Executive, not Congress treestar Jun 2013 #122

Slowly now nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #124

I am not too sure about that, my friend. longship Jun 2013 #138

They might be coming anyhow nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #140

Read the whole thing. longship Jun 2013 #151

It will take a couple days. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #153

Or the River Styx, my friend. nt longship Jun 2013 #159

Why would he have done that? Union Scribe Jun 2013 #81

He does not clearly support them treestar Jun 2013 #123

"He does not clearly support them." BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! woo me with science Jun 2013 #141

+1 Marr Jun 2013 #176

Electing a Congress like that takes too long. freshwest Jun 2013 #121

It is basically down to Congress to change the laws Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #137

you heaven05 Jun 2013 #180

I know, I elect reps, people "elect" leaders. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #181

We seem to have a Congress which is content with this? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #133

True nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #136

true heaven05 Jun 2013 #182

They see an opportunity. kentuck Jun 2013 #14

but Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #142

That is bullshit, twisting, and contorting to avoid admitting that we are being screwed GoneFishin Jun 2013 #16

What? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #143

and the "liberally-biased media" is zbdent Jun 2013 #17

Exactly, if Democrats don't vigorously support an incipient police state then Republicans win Fumesucker Jun 2013 #18

Well said. freedom fighter jh Jun 2013 #69

lol NT ctsnowman Jun 2013 #79

And this administration is also stupidly and/or COMPLICITLY being played like a fiddle too! cascadiance Jun 2013 #19

We need a congress which Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #146

we are suckers for the "they are all the same" bullshit greenman3610 Jun 2013 #21

But we don't have to fit the "we are all the same" partisan BSers responding to it!... cascadiance Jun 2013 #56

True Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #147

If people do not stop to realize we are being played by both sides MuseRider Jun 2013 #22

We are not done Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #148

We need to get rid of the scum all around us MuseRider Jun 2013 #171

Republicans aren't playing this tune. delrem Jun 2013 #25

not exactly Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #149

Let's all focus on getting the vote out in 2014. appacom Jun 2013 #28

EXACTLY!!! Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #150

^^^THIS^^^ riqster Jun 2013 #183

Um ... no. Laelth Jun 2013 #29

Where the hell have you been. zeemike Jun 2013 #30

remember Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #152

Most ot this came after the cold war. zeemike Jun 2013 #168

I have to wonder. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #31

Hear, hear! TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #33

the people who were not smart were the ones to think the Bush family was stupid. graham4anything Jun 2013 #50

George W. was an idiot. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #71

That was the way his personna was created (read Fraud by Paul Waldman). graham4anything Jun 2013 #73

For once I agree with you. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #113

Agree 100% Savannahmann. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #62

+ Graham's Number! whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #66

Good Points and.. KoKo Jun 2013 #74

Dude, the President can't veto laws that have already become laws. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #77

OK, let's review shall we? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #98

corporate dominated Republicans/media control etc Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #155

Excellent summary, +1 sibelian Jun 2013 #174

Both parties are playing us rubes like a fiddle. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #35

Time for a change? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #157

It starts sensationalized Politicub Jun 2013 #36

"NSA issue wasn't as bad"? I've heard this argument recycled but it doesn't wash no matter how GoneFishin Jun 2013 #65

Well they've already gerrymandered the Congressional districts, so it doesn't matter. steelmania75 Jun 2013 #39

Maybe Obama shouldn't have handed midterms to the GOP on a platter DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #43

+1000 forestpath Jun 2013 #108

TPM linked an article written in Bloomberg Businessweek Magazine, Nov 22, 2011.. nenagh Jun 2013 #47

Perhaps the Democrats should stop providing the bow and rosin suffragette Jun 2013 #51

Rephrase.. to some Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #163

Like these Democrats, three of whom I voted for and who represent me? suffragette Jun 2013 #187

Hay, I'm safe. I don't use Verizon................... wandy Jun 2013 #52

Will you all defend them then? Union Scribe Jun 2013 #82

This is not about defending Obama....... wandy Jun 2013 #85

He. Supports. It. Union Scribe Jun 2013 #86

Ok. Now I'm not being a dick here. What's the plan?........... wandy Jun 2013 #92

And, the NSA is spying on the people. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #53

It has been for some time Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #145

Their plot for Obama to expand Bush's powers is *brilliant* MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #60

Yes . . . caseymoz Jun 2013 #72

Well, then it's a fu*cking great strategy. caseymoz Jun 2013 #67

Get with the 3D chess program. All we have to do is lose everything, GoneFishin Jun 2013 #70

ever think it might not be and either / or scenario? Skittles Jun 2013 #75

They're Playing The Corporate Media Who... KharmaTrain Jun 2013 #76

Then let's end the issue right now LittleBlue Jun 2013 #78

you mean it's not true? They just made this NSA stuff up? Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #83

Gustav Noske? MisterP Jun 2013 #84

Duped how? MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #87

That would be some Democrats.. and some have even left the Party.. Cha Jun 2013 #96

Not being played here, but still angry Lifelong Protester Jun 2013 #104

These are orchestrated turbulent times for Obama's administration, but I will mfcorey1 Jun 2013 #106

Democrats have never walked link n step, depending on the issue. still_one Jun 2013 #107

If we are playing only politics you are right, if we are playing how do we turn this thing around kickysnana Jun 2013 #125

Stock Response to Obama Adjacent Critique #17! DirkGently Jun 2013 #130

I am beginning to wonder if some aren't on a payroll Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #154

well Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #161

The gopropaganda machine has done a fucking lousy job in Congress Cha Jun 2013 #134

Which Republican is masterminding this? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #156

You tell me Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #158

You're the one who made the claim DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #162

First of all Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #164

Thank you DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #166

in the 1870s it was the Vatican that was supposed to be controlling all the county governments and MisterP Jun 2013 #189

i did`t know we were electing obama..... madrchsod Jun 2013 #169

it didn't say anything about Obama Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #184

Wouldn't be such a problem if tblue Jun 2013 #170

yup, meanwhile at the very local level Rs control the communities. Sunlei Jun 2013 #175

What a poor opinion you must have of your fellow Dems burnodo Jun 2013 #185

Yep. And, the White House calls it Bi-partisanship and compromise. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #186

perfect o.p. nt UTUSN Jun 2013 #188