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In reply to the discussion: Obama Administration Declassifies Details On “PRISM,” Blasts “Reckless” Media And Leakers. [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)97. Yes. A drone is an airplane. The pilot happens to be some distance away.
Imagine how useful they would have been in WW2....
I have to wonder if they actually they think China, Russia, NK, Iran, Israel, etc. will "stop" engaging in intel collection and espionage if we do?
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Obama Administration Declassifies Details On “PRISM,” Blasts “Reckless” Media And Leakers. [View all]
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
OP
This is a fascist program, sig-line protests to the contrary notwithstanding
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2013
#1
The terms target, collect, US person, foreign, intentionally, oversight are all used contrary to
leveymg
Jun 2013
#11
Responsibility for this rests in all branches of gov't, both political parties, Administrations and
leveymg
Jun 2013
#25
Do we want the Supreme Court to rule that the law is unconstitutional...that is the question.
MADem
Jun 2013
#59
There is a gigantic difference between companies doing this and the government.
BlueCheese
Jun 2013
#30
I'm saying that personal information in the hands of the government is much more dangerous...
BlueCheese
Jun 2013
#39
Thaaaattt's RIGHT! They gather and store it ALL, but they don't "target" Americans UNLESS
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#69
Using terms like "poutrage" and "foot stomping" to describe those who disagree with you...
BlueCheese
Jun 2013
#22
"But the reporting from Glenn Greenwald and the Washington Post has been shoddy and misleading."
MADem
Jun 2013
#65
Supposedly, we've had some form of data collection for, what, eight years or more?
MADem
Jun 2013
#67
I'm sorry. I've read the entire thing. I'm not convinced. And for some very good reasons.
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#76
It's down to sources and methods. You know that "metadata" is collected where you might not have
MADem
Jun 2013
#99
Obama did not make any specific promises. He said he'd close GITMO and he wouldn't spy on
MADem
Jun 2013
#120
"And this program, which requires warrants to access the material, targets foreighners, not US
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#121
Look, you keep telling me I'm lying, but I'm getting this from a link YOU provided.
MADem
Jun 2013
#122
That's right, MADEM, I'm just a bad, bad person because I don't agree with you.
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#130
If by unit, you mean internet provider, well, the internet provider does that as well.
MADem
Jun 2013
#119
Senators can't (didn't) talk about this shit in public because of the nature,of you know, security
Sheepshank
Jun 2013
#40
I stand by my comment that we don't know enough to declare that the program is sound.
BlueCheese
Jun 2013
#42
^^^^^^For anyone who collects examples of brazen, twisting spin^^^^^^^^
woo me with science
Jun 2013
#15
Here's some "brazen twisting"--but it's from the SOURCE of this sloppily-reported story.
MADem
Jun 2013
#68
Their strategy is now to outright refuse to argue with you - they opt for innuendo and accusation
alcibiades_mystery
Jun 2013
#51
"Stalinesque" really shouldn't be uttered by someone who supports spying on all citizens
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2013
#63
Oh for dog's sake. There is plenty of space at DU to be clear, if you *choose* to be clear.
woo me with science
Jun 2013
#80
Thank you. And now come the legal pursuit and intimidation to the leaker
woo me with science
Jun 2013
#14
You mean someone in an intelligence agency who can't be trusted with intelligence?
randome
Jun 2013
#21
What? The NSA National Snooping Assholes can't snoop out the leakers? Epic Fail!
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#53
+100000 It's "old news," but don't doubt that an example will be made of anyone
woo me with science
Jun 2013
#28
"A lie will go round the world while the truth is still pulling its boots on..."
alcibiades_mystery
Jun 2013
#27
Clapper's blasting seems to be at odds with the President who said he was glad to be having this
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#57
You can't fight hysteria, you just have to let it wind down on its own. Fast & Furious anyone?
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#82
You are probably right. So why then does BO reach across the isle for their approval
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#105
It's not their approval he seeks. His efforts across the aisle have more to do with
MADem
Jun 2013
#113