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In reply to the discussion: Americans Are Outraged Because in Voting for Obama, They Thought They Were Rejecting Bush [View all]Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)97. So his support of Bush on Iraq is damning, but Hagel's is reason to make him Sec of Defense, is that
how it works? Comey supports Bush in very real and direct ways, and that's reason to let him run the FBI, but a pundit who wrote words of support should be held up for mockery for it?
Personally, I think everyone who bought that war and sold it should be excluded from any future leadership role and none should have a shred of my trust. But to claim that it's great to put Republicans in charge of Defense and FBI, Republicans who voted for Iraq, for Bush, worked to elect him takes away the standing to use support of Bush for a time as some point of damnation.
Is Hagel wonderful and Greenwald awful for supporting Iraq for any specific reason? Hagle actually voted for it with a vote that only 100 Americans get to cast.
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Americans Are Outraged Because in Voting for Obama, They Thought They Were Rejecting Bush [View all]
kpete
Jun 2013
OP
So he had the liberal view through the key primaries & then switched to the authoritarian view?
limpyhobbler
Jun 2013
#158
So you are telling us that "things can change" and not that things did change?
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#127
That was certainly Bush's excuse too. 'Everything changed after 9/11' and he got the Patriot Act
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#184
But much of what's he's doing is making us less, not more, safe from terrorist attacks.
freedom fighter jh
Jun 2013
#195
The law is the law because Democrats like Obama shamefully voted for it. You clearly do not recall
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#55
The FBI and police departments have been spying on Americans for years and years.
xtraxritical
Jun 2013
#146
'I support the Patriot Act'. That says it all to me. Did you support it when it Bush was president?
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#190
Lol, you've got a point, even Britain has, or had before Blair, a fairly responsive government.
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#191
Horse hockey. It ain't the rapist, it's the dress she wore. Blame the victim, no.
grahamhgreen
Jun 2013
#66
Victims my ass. Americans elected all those assholes who voted for the patriot act.
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2013
#85
No, you are very wrong. The elected representatives did not represent the will of the people.
grahamhgreen
Jun 2013
#232
Voters also elected Wyden, Merkely, Udall, Feingold and many others who have attempted to
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#110
It's an uncomfortable reality that we elected (and then largely re-elected) the people who did this.
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2013
#224
Obama - Protecting The Status Quo Daily - Hope He Enjoys Our Telephone Conversations
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#10
Listen Good President Obama As I Know Your NSA Is Reading This --- As I Type!!
LovingA2andMI
Jun 2013
#156
"Americans" implies most or a majority are outraged, or that more than usual are outraged
arely staircase
Jun 2013
#16
he has an 83 percent approval rating among democrats, so it isn't emerging yet.
arely staircase
Jun 2013
#20
It's old and not news like Benghazi, IRS, AP, Reston and what ever I'm forgetting.
xtraxritical
Jun 2013
#72
Buyers Remorse Is An Ugly Revalation - Turns Out That Obama Was An Ad Campaign For The Status Quo
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#8
nope, college age and otherwise twenty somethings, and they love our president
arely staircase
Jun 2013
#211
You don't need to justify yourself to the newbe Ava. As a well known "young person" here
Dragonfli
Jun 2013
#123
Young people are outraged? That's where his highest approvals come from, combined with
JaneyVee
Jun 2013
#25
hasn't let me down once. I don't care nor follow Ron and Rand Paul and what they think.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#30
They are part of team Bush. Looking to fracture. And NO Obama core supporter is outraged.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#36
You don't know shit about Ava, she is no "team Bush" player, the opposite in fact
Dragonfli
Jun 2013
#126
Don't bother to argue with this poster, ask him instead about "first they came for the rich" :)
idwiyo
Jun 2013
#135
"Like a freaking tax attorney who knows the laws so they can get around them."
blkmusclmachine
Jun 2013
#54
^THAT^ I voted for him because I trusted him to do the right things and I think he is.
xtraxritical
Jun 2013
#77
Yeah, you go ahead and trust and have your faith. Me, I'll pay attention to what he DOES.
Demit
Jun 2013
#94
I don't vote for someone to micromanage them and I'm comfortable with the decisions he makes.
xtraxritical
Jun 2013
#141
And the sock puppets come on liberal/progressive websites to blow more smoke about how
blkmusclmachine
Jun 2013
#59
well they should be, but most Americans are not outraged about this. In fact the public has been so
Douglas Carpenter
Jun 2013
#35
you keep claiming that the people demanded that which was done without their consent.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#87
please try to grasp the over all point people try to make when they say something
Douglas Carpenter
Jun 2013
#102
I do. You claim the people demanded something they were not told about and which this person's
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#108
my blood boils everytime I hear the words from campaign Obama vs the real Obama
xiamiam
Jun 2013
#37
The President could erase many of the past policies with the stroke of a pen, yet
SlimJimmy
Jun 2013
#93
Never naive enough to believe he'd be ABLE to end programs institutionalized before
blm
Jun 2013
#57
TeaLeft irrational purityism. 1 issue doesn't mean he is Bush. And no one is being listened in on.
RBInMaine
Jun 2013
#68
Seriously. "TeaLeft", "Professional leftists", the "Where's My Pony?" brigade....
YoungDemCA
Jun 2013
#80
So his support of Bush on Iraq is damning, but Hagel's is reason to make him Sec of Defense, is that
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#97
Skittles said mine in post #9...this "news" is not "new", and I certainly witnessed 'teh ponies' bc
LaydeeBug
Jun 2013
#152
I think that folks here are upset because they hoped that Obama was a liberal
Rhiannon12866
Jun 2013
#177
Keep your substandard expectations for the United States to yourself
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2013
#180
Yep, and besides that, we are not going to get 65 (D) senators and 260 Reps in the near
Doctor_J
Jun 2013
#228
Many Voted for Pres Obama not once but twice mainly for change but Pres Obama
YeahSureRight
Jun 2013
#193