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In reply to the discussion: Can someone fill me in: is there anything new in this spying report we didn't know in 2006? [View all]BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)42. I don't know what you mean.
Are you saying that a new president doesn't mean a new government?
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Can someone fill me in: is there anything new in this spying report we didn't know in 2006? [View all]
Recursion
Jun 2013
OP
Yep, I expected this from a Republican, but I expected a Democrat to end the practice.
1-Old-Man
Jun 2013
#16
So why is it then that a majority (including Dems) in Congress voted for this thing
Sheepshank
Jun 2013
#22
in other words all those panties in a twist over a bunch if made up maybes. N/t
Sheepshank
Jun 2013
#25
With respect, I wish you wouldn't use terms like that to describe people who disagree with you.
BlueCheese
Jun 2013
#38
nope. It's just the monthly renewal a of a warrant they've been responding to every month
librechik
Jun 2013
#4
by "he" I think you mean the Justice Department. And like I said, he voted for it
librechik
Jun 2013
#46
It certainly seems a lot of people, even in government, were unaware of it until now.
BlueCheese
Jun 2013
#48
Nothing new. And, same old shit from the same old crowd that thinks a new POTUS=New Government.
NYC_SKP
Jun 2013
#10
That's what I'm saying. The president sits in a chair, a role, surrounded by thousands of programs,
NYC_SKP
Jun 2013
#47
OK, my jet-lag addled brain just grasped that there are two separate programs here
Recursion
Jun 2013
#15
Well, the NSA has always been off the grid and done things yer normal agencies can't do...
TreasonousBastard
Jun 2013
#23
Yes. "Driftnet" warrants aren't just for cities or areas, it's actually universal surveillance.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#31
How long has that been the case? That was my main worry about FISA initially (nt)
Recursion
Jun 2013
#43
Thin Thread went operational shortly after 9/11; warrantless data storage right after Bush came in.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#58
I hadn't heard of PRISM before. (NSA and FBI retrieving data from internet servers)
AndyA
Jun 2013
#55
PRISM operates off the surveillance backbone created by the 1995 CALEA Act that mandated the telcos
leveymg
Jun 2013
#59
No, the major carriers say they have nothing installed to provide this data to the government
AndyA
Jun 2013
#70
Every telco must have CALEA-compliant switching equipment by law. Just Google that.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#71
I wish you were right that this were just partisan politics rather than the reality hitting people
leveymg
Jun 2013
#60