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In reply to the discussion: I just left the Democratic party over NSA spying [View all]rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)215. Dont try to fool us. You would be ok with whatever Pres Obama wanted to do.
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We've been taking step after step, sometimes large, sometimes small, but step after step
RKP5637
Jun 2013
#256
When is the last time "a liberal" won the White House? You'll remember Al Gore couldn't pass....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#405
He supported same sex marriage and has been a proponent of gun control..
Vietnameravet
Jun 2013
#339
Robin Williams as Mork from Ork once referred to waiting with "worm on tongue"
Rowdyboy
Jun 2013
#222
So you think it's funny that the Dem party is doing such things as to make people disgusted
cui bono
Jun 2013
#340
What I find hilarious is the fact that you don't seem to know WTF you're talking about, and you're..
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#429
You're making a lot of assumptions and yet continue to fail to address what was originally
cui bono
Jun 2013
#431
Oh I think they were well aware that even if a democrat came into office that
cstanleytech
Jun 2013
#272
Except that a law was passed, signed by Ford actually airc, that made such spying without a warrant
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#225
We have members who are not legally able to vote in the US, so they are not
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#83
would you really want to bar foreign people, such as Canadians for example, from DU
quinnox
Jun 2013
#89
are you familiar with the green party? peace and freedom? perhaps socialist workers?
frylock
Jun 2013
#138
What do this have to do with anything? Q asked if Canucks should be kicked out. I replied.
FSogol
Jun 2013
#147
#2. Thou shalt not exaggerate a persons argument in order to make it easier to attack.
canoeist52
Jun 2013
#248
While that phrase is in the TOS, there is quite a bit more in the following paragraph
whopis01
Jun 2013
#210
It's not at all histrionics. Obama doubled down on warrantless wiretapping and drones...
cui bono
Jun 2013
#349
Has anyone told you yet what "warrantless" means? You keep saying that. I'll make it easier....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#402
I like how your only response is to ask me if I know what that means rather than address what is
cui bono
Jun 2013
#417
Well, obviously we can't have a debate as long as you're ignorant of some very important definitions
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#428
You don't know what a debate is as evidenced in the other back and forth we're having.
cui bono
Jun 2013
#433
No. "Immature" would be continuing to claim that "warrantless wiretapping" is alleged anywhere.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#436
You are wrong. I am British, live in UK, can't vote in US, and yet I am allowed to post here.
idwiyo
Jun 2013
#382
Actually I doubt very much most of us would have supported George Wallace when he was a democrat
still_one
Jun 2013
#59
Do you realize that there is one current official on that list and half are no longer living?
usregimechange
Jun 2013
#21
It's IMO a constant morphing away from what the D party used to stand for ... now many
RKP5637
Jun 2013
#260
Yep. And they are simply playing the team sport the corporate media tells them to play
cui bono
Jun 2013
#352
In my opinion there is a big difference between 'spying' and 'storing meta-data'
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#7
From what I understand, the data was gained using a court order form the FISA court.
Agnosticsherbet
Jun 2013
#144
Congress could also pass a law banning that process, or repealing part of FISA.
Sirveri
Jun 2013
#223
They ARE 'spying.' On all communications. STORING them is even worse. I'm no longer a Democrat,
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#68
...and if that's your feeling, there are plenty of progressive (rather than pro-Democratic)....
brooklynite
Jun 2013
#406
And if your feeling is that we shouldn't fight to uphold the constitution then there's plenty
cui bono
Jun 2013
#418
Because I am a left-wing liberal. And I've been here since 2004, when I voted straight ticket Dem.
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#397
YES, ABSOLUTELY. Every single one of us are now potential targets of the government.
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#400
We have already observed the government's proactive targeting of Occupy.
woo me with science
Jun 2013
#409
Dont try to fool us. You would be ok with whatever Pres Obama wanted to do.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#215
Wrong. I believe in the Democratic principles. When leaders support those
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#329
I stated that the poster would support anything the President does. Is that so horrible?
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#332
I try hard not to insult anyone here. If you have an example I will gladly
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#336
Then you don't understand databases. We don't need a Tx4obama label to find you
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#231
How're they supposed to keep tabs on granny and make sure she's not smoking pot for her chemo nausea
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2013
#9
I'm displeased with the direction this party has taken of late, like being Republican Lite,
Cleita
Jun 2013
#11
I've quite enjoyed replying to the 4 - 5 emails I get from them every day begging for my $ and
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#17
Merkley and DeFazio are both certainly better than the worst, but don't count on anything like
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#123
Amen. They're only storing data and getting warrants to accesss it. I'm 100% pro Obama. nt
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#30
The Left won't mention that a court order must be obtained just to access one
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#90
'The left'?? Aren't you Democrat, the 'left' side of the aisle? Who is the 'left' to you?
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#226
Why do you seemingly hate "the Left"? The Dem Party IS (supposedly) the left.
cui bono
Jun 2013
#364
Not blind, but I am a follower. I'm quite familiar with the intelligence community and how they
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#369
That's the giant myth. The government needs a warrant to listen to my phone calls. That hasn't
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#430
Had a few run-ins with Ms. Benjamin when I was an activist in SF and she was running Global Exchange
alcibiades_mystery
Jun 2013
#109
I kind of jumped ship mid first- term ... mostly over $$$$$school "reform".
Smarmie Doofus
Jun 2013
#39
Yes, that would have nice! Don't worry, the 'I won't vote' gang didn't vote before, either.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#80
Yea, the world would be perfect. The Left would be laying in streets and chaining themselves
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#100
If one goes to wiki and looks up democratic underground this is the first paragraph
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#56
Careful there, you'll be accused of being a bully by throwing pesky facts at her
Brother Buzz
Jun 2013
#65
You are right, but some throw shit out there hoping some of it'll stick. That's a RW tactic.
demosincebirth
Jun 2013
#71
WORD! But, hey, also remember people like Ron Wyden (D-OR) are fighting the good fight and...
Poll_Blind
Jun 2013
#182
"Simply being slightly less fucked up than the Republicans isn't remotely good enough." Amen! nt
piedmont
Jun 2013
#360
sez the guy who has been here since 2010, to a Duer who has been here for ten years
quinnox
Jun 2013
#81
apparently, "mwrguy", thinks they are the new boss of DU, and gets to decide who leaves and
quinnox
Jun 2013
#202
That type of thinking is contrary to democratic principles. That sounds a lot like
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#335
Now there is some kinda audacity on your first post. Or have you been here before? nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#333
Do what I do. I haven't donated on a national level since the '04 elections. I work locally.
ScreamingMeemie
Jun 2013
#104
Some people can't see around their over-sized self importance to get a view of a
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#114
exactly, I love how all these newbies (this one joined just this year!) are telling off
quinnox
Jun 2013
#139
Yep, they naively believe my democrats right or wrong ... and that is a fool's walk right
RKP5637
Jun 2013
#258
It's a military-industrial operation that you, me, John McCain and Barack Obama can't stop.
Zen Democrat
Jun 2013
#174
Yeah, remember how there wasn't a dime's bit of difference between Bush and Gore?
jeff47
Jun 2013
#156
Wish I got a nickel everytime someone on this board said they were leaving the Democratic Party.
SunSeeker
Jun 2013
#160
I don't blame you. If a liberal does not win the primary in the next election I will not vote.
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#163
I meant the next primary. If a liberal wins the next primary I'd be willing to vote for them.
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#178
How does a group affect political change for something important...by leaving it?
Sheepshank
Jun 2013
#298
And land lines since they happened. ... and through walls with glasses held to the
RKP5637
Jun 2013
#285
That bullying tactic isn't good enough anymore. I don't give a flying fart if you think my vote puts
liberal_at_heart
Jun 2013
#189
I don't blame you, the Obama adminstration has turned out to be a huge pile of dogshit.
Arctic Dave
Jun 2013
#207
While I understand completely your decision, I don't think any of those who, like you, respect the
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#228
It's very convenient that they called right as this week's DU poutrage session kicked off!
tridim
Jun 2013
#259
You know, George Carlin was right, voting IS meaningless..................
faithnomore
Jun 2013
#247
With a username like usregimechange, how did you claim to be in the Democratic Party?
Coyotl
Jun 2013
#254
Good. The Democratic Party has always been a fucking joke on the big issues.
Daniel537
Jun 2013
#278
You must be one of those famous "swing" voters we hear so much about, blowing with the latest wind
0nirevets
Jun 2013
#280
But as soon as there's an attack of any kind, you'll be the first to say it should've been prevented
judesedit
Jun 2013
#286
Why not tell us all about your prior support for Dems, so we can properly mourn
struggle4progress
Jun 2013
#295
Yes indeed. Please sign this simple loyalty oath. It will only take a second
RufusTFirefly
Jun 2013
#296
It will be interesting to see how your attitude changes when the hard right takes over this country.
DCBob
Jun 2013
#309
Why in the world would you join a party whose President issued executive order 9066?
grantcart
Jun 2013
#319
Because income inequality and the lack of jobs is not an important enough issue to stay focussed on.
DrewFlorida
Jun 2013
#341
The NSA has been collecting every phone call made on planet Earth for the last 30 years or longer.
Ganja Ninja
Jun 2013
#347
Since when did the Democratic Party start supporting what you're claiming it does?
Hippo_Tron
Jun 2013
#378
I'm not enrolled in either party however I will not vote for a Republican............
4bucksagallon
Jun 2013
#399
Yep. This whole Plutocracy's age-old massive paranoid program has been in place for decades.
Amonester
Jun 2013
#419
It's the internet dude! For all we know you might be typing from a Heritage Foundation call center.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#404