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In reply to the discussion: “She came right down in my face,” Sturtz said. “I was taken aback.” [View all]Fearless
(18,421 posts)1) If everyone was so enamored by the starving children you mention, you'd think that the millionaires in that crowd would throw a few hundred thousand dollars in their direction at least. No? In reality, they're present because Michelle is a relevant social icon. People are attracted to that. Otherwise, why have her speak?
2) The outburst by the protester is not what is up for debate here. I have not stated that it wasn't ill-timed or ineffective. This is a debate talking about her response to that outburst. I have detailed for you exactly why it is offensive. If you don't agree, that's your prerogative, but I am as equally entitled to my opinions as you are. Likewise, I have considerably more experience in LGBT politics than you do.
3) The outburst wasn't about solving the problem at that exact second. It was about providing a voice to an issue that NEEDS to be addressed. Again I direct you back to my statement on whether it was effective or not.
4) By attempting to use peer pressure as a means to control discourse in the room, she is dismissing the issue. All she needed to say is, "This is an important issue, I agree with you, but right now I'm here to speak about XYZ." Not spout off holier-than-thou attempts at peer pressure.
5) She did not actually offer her the floor. That was a call out. She was using peer pressure to shut someone up. Do you honestly think she would have handed her the mike?
6)Citing "other LGBTers" as evidence of me being incorrect is a faulty argument. No quantity of people supporting your opinions will dictate that my point of view is incorrect. And conversely the opposite is true as well. To debate a point of view, you need facts not the mention of opinions.
7)Why is a member of the Billionaires for Weathcare (for instance) considered a protester and yet this woman is considered a heckler? They both spoke up at paid events for other topics. Yet, we laud one and abuse the other? Why is that?