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271. Except that Manning was not a whistleblower,
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jun 2013

he didn't follow the legal procedures for reporting what he believed were war crimes, he should have first aired his concerns to the IG's office and, failing that, written any congressperson or senator, he didn't, he gave them to a foreign entity, Assange, without even knowing what was in those cables, he put people who were working with the US Govt. in Afghanistan in danger, he made doing business with other countries more difficult.

Every military member, from the lowliest E-1 to the highest 0-9 has it hammered in them from the moment of joining the military, that guarding classified material is of the highest order, Manning didn't do that, instead he took it upon himself to release classified material without thinking about the consequences.
Well, now he's going to probably spend the rest of his miserable life in a max security prison and I won't shed one tear for him.

Manning isn't a whistleblower... SidDithers Jun 2013 #1
Really? That's a most, eh, conservative take on it. Octafish Jun 2013 #3
Yup. Link is right here... SidDithers Jun 2013 #14
Are you trying to damage the server? Octafish Jun 2013 #34
'Cause you never link to your own posts, octafish... SidDithers Jun 2013 #46
Big difference is I post useful information that adds to what we know about the gangsters. Octafish Jun 2013 #90
Octafish has more credibility here than you do, Sid. By a LOT. Occulus Jun 2013 #131
How is that NOT a personal attack? randome Jun 2013 #133
Well, you know, there was a preface... SidDithers Jun 2013 #137
you just can't compare with that anti vax woo machine Sid... dionysus Jun 2013 #256
PROPAGANDA 101: Labels are powerful things. Octafish Jun 2013 #289
The truth is a personal attack? I don't think so. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #198
What you just posted is nonsense. Everyone here is subject to being asked for links with backup. stevenleser Jun 2013 #134
Occulus' post was accurate. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #201
... SidDithers Jun 2013 #136
I'm hurt Occulus Jun 2013 #149
Of course you don't, but a whole lot of other people, do. Occulus, a great DUer like Octafish sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #197
How's that RFK jr homework coming... SidDithers Jun 2013 #224
So far, due to the fact that RFK Jr has credibility, as opposed to his few detractors, and I sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #265
"debating a topic like an adult rather than with obvious biases... SidDithers Jun 2013 #278
It's like an automatic reaction. Octafish Jun 2013 #267
even though we have had our disputes in the past backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #188
+ a million. And it would be a perfect 100% over the people high fiving that personal attack on him Number23 Jun 2013 #202
I couldn't agree more, and I have no doubt at all that a majority of people here sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #195
yup, their anti vax woo, as well as constant campaigning against Dems, makes DU special... dionysus Jun 2013 #255
Like when you called a liberal constitutional scholar a douchebag? Octafish Jun 2013 #275
correction: greenwald is a libertarian douchebag dionysus Jun 2013 #286
Either way, that is Labeling, a technique of propaganda. Octafish Jun 2013 #290
i call it an apt description dionysus Jun 2013 #323
Call it what you want, you're still wrong. Greenwald is correct on Manning vs. the Warmongers Octafish Jun 2013 #329
Sid - Ellsberg didn't have time to read all the Pentagon Papers, either. Your argument is trash. leveymg Jun 2013 #234
Excellent post and everyone knows that the nonsensical claim that 'he didn't read sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #270
Wait... SidDithers Jun 2013 #272
Sid, Ellsberg actually says the term "data dump" . . ." is the opposite of the truth." leveymg Jun 2013 #294
He can't answer because - He's the one Dragonfli Jun 2013 #15
Releasing thousands of diplomatic cables crossed the line, pnwmom Jun 2013 #109
and that's just your opinion. Swagman Jun 2013 #228
Manning's too, since he's been willing to plead guilty on that. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #252
These diplomatic cables should have been declassified leveymg Jun 2013 #241
The cables contained the unredacted names of innocent people pnwmom Jun 2013 #251
I believe the names were of corrupt Afghan officials leveymg Jun 2013 #295
There were a lot more names that that in the thousands of cables. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #297
Show me an instance where someone was harmed. leveymg Jun 2013 #298
251,000 cables were released UNVETTED and unredacted. pnwmom Jun 2013 #303
But, not a single act of persecution as a result of a quarter million unvetted docs in 3 yrs? leveymg Jun 2013 #314
Much of the case is being withheld for security reasons, so I wouldn't expect pnwmom Jun 2013 #316
That's a little circular. Secrets to protect secrets, etc. Are you speculating, or is that based in leveymg Jun 2013 #319
I just amended the previous post to give an example. And then I found this one: pnwmom Jun 2013 #320
As someone who's prepared hundreds of Ethiopian asylum claims, I am not in the least leveymg Jun 2013 #321
So since he escaped his country alive, he wasn't really harmed then? pnwmom Jun 2013 #322
The bottom line is: Maedhros Jun 2013 #30
It depends on whether you want to live in a democracy or not. Octafish Jun 2013 #41
Ignorance is bliss? nineteen50 Jun 2013 #42
I think there is no question we would be better off if it had not been released. If Manning had stevenleser Jun 2013 #135
I did not read all the Wikileaks, but I feel better off that he released them. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #153
This Option B is sponsored by Leo Strauss and the University of Chicago. Occulus Jun 2013 #155
We are better off, although it may take a while for this country to acknowledge that. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #204
I'll take the most famous and most credible Whistle Blower's word on that. Daniel sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #164
wow backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #193
Anyone who objects to a whistle blower exposing war crimes committed during sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #194
but he didnt just whistle blow did he backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #196
Manning is not a whistle blower AnalystInParadise Jun 2013 #217
absolute garbage. Who is this "private entity" that has "hostility to the USA"? Swagman Jun 2013 #231
U.S. policy AnalystInParadise Jun 2013 #237
Except that Manning was not a whistleblower, premium Jun 2013 #271
That he didn't follow "legal procedures" doesn't make him any less a whistleblower - it just put him leveymg Jun 2013 #299
The difference is that Ellsberg tried the legal way first, premium Jun 2013 #302
The difference is, Nixon unleashed the Plumbers on Ellsberg and got himself Impeached. leveymg Jun 2013 #315
apparently SidDithers doesn't believe in the court system Swagman Jun 2013 #227
DU is part of the court system?... SidDithers Jun 2013 #280
I musta missed the memo, premium Jun 2013 #288
Manning is no fucking hero, premium Jun 2013 #2
No. Otherwise the Pentagon would not report that national security was not harmed by WikiLeaks. Octafish Jun 2013 #5
And I'll side with the UCMJ, premium Jun 2013 #8
He has not been convicted, yet you think him so. Is that based on something you learned on tee vee? Octafish Jun 2013 #12
He's already plead guilty to 10 charges... SidDithers Jun 2013 #48
Yes I Would Love To See Those Links As Well HangOnKids Jun 2013 #67
Take it with all the salt you want, premium Jun 2013 #76
Ahh how clever HangOnKids Jun 2013 #79
Well, we all have our difference of opinion now, don't we? nt. premium Jun 2013 #88
Where are the links? n/t HangOnKids Jun 2013 #80
I just know you're not going to accept this, but, here goes. premium Jun 2013 #86
Sorry The Link Does Not Work HangOnKids Jun 2013 #89
Strange. My link below works fine but Premium's does not. I don't see the difference. randome Jun 2013 #91
Fixed it. premium Jun 2013 #93
The Link works fine for me, premium, and I appreciate it. Good Cha Jun 2013 #146
Thank you. premium Jun 2013 #242
I'd like to those links also. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #206
CBS says 'hundreds' of informers' names were leaked. randome Jun 2013 #81
The thing is that CBS report also goes to The Times article that was debunked from 3 years ago. Octafish Jun 2013 #125
If you have anything debunking it, I would like to see that, too. randome Jun 2013 #128
There are zero follow-up reports. No evidence reported. Three years on. Ergo, de-bunked. Octafish Jun 2013 #165
Oh, Binka... SidDithers Jun 2013 #126
Two posts hidden per month is not a bad rate. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #245
The essence of authoritarianism Maedhros Jun 2013 #33
Leaking the names of hundreds of overseas informants was NOT the right thing to do. randome Jun 2013 #38
He had no idea what he was leaking for the most part. premium Jun 2013 #39
This keeps getting stated as fact: Maedhros Jun 2013 #61
There are more links above but this one specifically mentions 'hundreds'. randome Jun 2013 #63
See post #125 by Octafish above Maedhros Jun 2013 #177
Why was he given access to so much information in the first place? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #160
Great question. Thanks also for sharing that story about your relative, the WAC. Octafish Jun 2013 #248
Thank you. I do not know whether my relative was a codebreaker. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #249
The UCMJ also requires sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #44
Like this guy...? Pelican Jun 2013 #47
Is he the guy defending his country, or invading it? OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #54
Thank You HangOnKids Jun 2013 #69
Of course, sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #78
+1. The mentality of the helicopter murder chucklers is not unlike... Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #171
Even Assange said it looked like these guys were carrying RPGs. randome Jun 2013 #57
How about the two guys the helicopter lights up who are carrying wounded think Jun 2013 #156
Alot of us are not that familar with the UCMJ so could you link the specific section that cstanleytech Jun 2013 #173
UCMJ 918.Art.118.Murder sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #247
Interesting. There is a problem though. cstanleytech Jun 2013 #274
1,2 and 3 apply. sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #287
And the rest of my question? cstanleytech Jun 2013 #296
See, you keep sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #306
Well I certainly cannot force you to answer the question. cstanleytech Jun 2013 #309
I have answered the question, repeatedly. sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #312
Colonel Jessup, is that you? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #152
How cute, NOT! nt. premium Jun 2013 #276
The Late 80s called. They want their lame retort back. nt Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #281
Talk about lame retorts. premium Jun 2013 #283
Yes, speaking of ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #307
Your superior intellect premium Jun 2013 #308
I'm happy for you. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #334
He will serve time for the things that he has admitted. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #158
Acc. to the UN charter, only the UN Security Council can authorize a CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #186
'National security' may not have been impacted... randome Jun 2013 #9
Really? Got a link? Octafish Jun 2013 #13
From Rachel Maddow's show last night. randome Jun 2013 #17
Great. A splash page for the show. The only place I've seen anyone link to such is Free Republic. Octafish Jun 2013 #22
You just need to wait a few seconds for the video to load. randome Jun 2013 #24
I think you'd get better responses... Wait Wut Jun 2013 #65
+100! zappaman Jun 2013 #97
Who'd I call a freeper? Octafish Jun 2013 #100
"The only place I've seen anyone link to such is Free Republic." Wait Wut Jun 2013 #118
So? That's a different thing, entirely. You have yet to show where I called anyone a freeper. Octafish Jun 2013 #121
I'm done. Wait Wut Jun 2013 #122
Bye. It's no game. Octafish Jun 2013 #124
Exactly, Wait Wut, When they have nothing that's what Cha Jun 2013 #147
Concur, completely. MADem Jun 2013 #223
Well said...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #284
Do you have source materials, an 8 minute video from an opnion show is not really news. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #23
Only a Wikipedia source so far. randome Jun 2013 #25
Are you as concerned Maedhros Jun 2013 #35
Got it... Pelican Jun 2013 #50
I understand that Manning broke the law. Maedhros Jun 2013 #66
They need to look the other way. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #68
But he didn't accept the consequences and neither did his supporters... brooklynite Jun 2013 #95
There is some precedent for that belief Maedhros Jun 2013 #111
Well said, Maedhros, well said. nt Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #162
In a perfect world, there would be no drones and no government malfeasance. randome Jun 2013 #51
Even in the crappiest democracy there wouldn't be assassination of Americans without trial. Octafish Jun 2013 #291
The pentagon does not have covert agents in the field. Get back to me when the CIA says it has not stevenleser Jun 2013 #132
Like we're supposed to believe the CIA about anything? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #150
Are we five years old now? Is any country going to acknowledge the elimination of its agents or stevenleser Jun 2013 #167
In a democracy Maedhros Jun 2013 #151
LOL, Manning didn't do that. He released hundreds of thousands of documents at random. stevenleser Jun 2013 #168
A man's life is at stake here Maedhros Jun 2013 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author stevenleser Jun 2013 #179
LOL is an entirely appropriate response. He had options for addressing the specific wrongdoing stevenleser Jun 2013 #180
If the sentence comes by Predator drone, you'll wet yourself. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #232
This is the first time navarth Jun 2013 #263
There is good reason for being happy with Manning's punishment stevenleser Jun 2013 #269
Have you served Steve? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #273
Yes. I also witnessed the IG address wrongdoing. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #277
You mean, apart from the Army's interns at CNN and NPR, a direct phone call from CIA works wonders. Octafish Jun 2013 #338
you are no fucking hero either Swagman Jun 2013 #229
Manning pleaded guilty to 10 crimes AnalystInParadise Jun 2013 #240
Hey Swagman, premium Jun 2013 #243
Manning has already plead guilty to 10 charges... SidDithers Jun 2013 #285
I gave you a rec, but don't fully agree. NCTraveler Jun 2013 #4
Thank you for adding your perspective, which adds to our understanding. Octafish Jun 2013 #10
So you think the public's right to know Bodhi BloodWave Jun 2013 #36
What I know: People killed by Bradley Manning-0. People killed by Bush & Cheney-100,000+ Octafish Jun 2013 #335
I agree. Well said. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #19
Indeed. CanSocDem Jun 2013 #6
Most Americans have no idea what the USG does in their name. Octafish Jun 2013 #16
Thank you for the link, Octafish navarth Jun 2013 #37
if the US had not been involved in criminal G_j Jun 2013 #7
Bush. Cheney. Powell. Rumsfeld...When will they go on trial for lying America into war? Octafish Jun 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jun 2013 #71
kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2013 #11
'Washington Babylon' explains why things are so messed up that money really does trump peace. Octafish Jun 2013 #31
Thanks for that Refresher....Amazing what goes down the rabbit hole of KoKo Jun 2013 #254
One does not preclude the other. Both committed crimes. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #18
And yet in one case we are told to 'turn the page, look forward, turn a blind eye to crime' Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #27
I advocate for the prosecution of Bush, Cheney et al, often on my radio show. So thats not true. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #129
I'm eagerly awaiting the trials of the murderers and other miscreants he exposed. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #21
Can you name them? That would be helpful. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #32
No, I can't. The government is keeping them secret. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #49
Wait a second!!! That makes no sense!! Manning dumps 700k documents and videos and msanthrope Jun 2013 #52
Boggles the mind, doesn't it? nt. premium Jun 2013 #53
No one can name ANYONE that committed a war crime? nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #59
That's correct jberryhill Jun 2013 #105
Maybe he's in on it. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #110
George Walker Bush and Dick Cheney Rex Jun 2013 #112
We needed a Bradley Manning to tell us that Bush and Cheney are criminals??? I think not. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #117
No I was just answering your question. Rex Jun 2013 #141
George Walker Bush for commiting the supreme crime against the peace, CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #324
We needed a 700k paper dump to tell us that? nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #326
You asked, you were answered and you then proceeded to CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #327
Obviously, the "dumping" of documents was harmless and he should be released. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #56
'Harm' isn't an element of the statute. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #58
IOW, premium Jun 2013 #62
Bradley Manning is a foreigner? Who knew? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #116
I was referring to the Afghans that were helping the US in Afghanistan. premium Jun 2013 #244
Those named were corrupt officials whose names were originally in a Dari-language academic paper. leveymg Jun 2013 #300
You're seriously saying that the only names outed were corrupt officials? premium Jun 2013 #304
It's interesting that in 3 yrs since that article appeared, not one verified case of harm. leveymg Jun 2013 #310
Just because we haven't heard of it, premium Jun 2013 #311
Believe me, if there was one severed head, we would have seen it. Over and over and over again. leveymg Jun 2013 #313
Same here premium Jun 2013 #337
I think people would be more likely to see it this way IF hughee99 Jun 2013 #26
Great point. The thing is, the other documents revealed State Department work for money grubbers. Octafish Jun 2013 #253
The papers had a field day with it, but releasing classified documents that hughee99 Jun 2013 #279
It is well known that there is a rather large portion of Govt. that is above the law. Dragonfli Jun 2013 #28
K&R. nt OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #29
Just get it over with and lock him up railsback Jun 2013 #40
You Know What Was On Manning's Mind? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #84
So, you know what was on Manning's Mind? railsback Jun 2013 #92
This is what was on Manning's mind. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #96
The chat logs with Adrian Lamo are closer to the event, and are not msanthrope Jun 2013 #115
Um, yeah railsback Jun 2013 #154
It is "grown up" OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #169
Ah, so its 'grown up' to have delusions of grandeur railsback Jun 2013 #209
You prefer to attack those who bring to light OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #230
Wasn't it also Goering who said AnalystInParadise Jun 2013 #239
I Never Claimed To Know What Was On His Mind HangOnKids Jun 2013 #101
LoL. I'm not denying it. railsback Jun 2013 #157
But you are just so likeable! HangOnKids Jun 2013 #215
(02:14:21 PM) Manning: listened and lip-synced to Lady Gaga’s Telephone while exfiltratrating possi msanthrope Jun 2013 #114
Stomping on a lowly soldier who got disgusted with our horrible forever wars... Peace Patriot Jun 2013 #43
That was a great books. Octafish Jun 2013 #170
Coping with Manning's crime was my job for a while Proud Public Servant Jun 2013 #45
Scale RobertEarl Jun 2013 #55
No, of course not Proud Public Servant Jun 2013 #60
Doubled down, eh? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #64
Serious question Proud Public Servant Jun 2013 #72
Well RobertEarl Jun 2013 #83
"Danced around"? Oh, please. Proud Public Servant Jun 2013 #98
That is *definitely* the issue. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #102
Why Are You Posting Here If You Believe This HangOnKids Jun 2013 #106
Because it's true? ucrdem Jun 2013 #113
Read Again HangOnKids Jun 2013 #120
Okay, I did, and you're completely misreading it. Reread it carefully. n/t ucrdem Jun 2013 #123
Just for starters. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #94
LALALALA WE CANT HEAR YOU!!! Ash_F Jun 2013 #200
+1 THE LIST...it should be a Stickie to any Manning post here on DU. KoKo Jun 2013 #260
Is any of this true? GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #233
It pisses ME off. But what Manning released had nothing to do with Bush. randome Jun 2013 #75
You may be a public servant, but Ellsberg disagrees CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #190
You certainly have my sympathy. MADem Jun 2013 #73
Thanks RobertEarl Jun 2013 #107
You love to follow me round, don't you? MADem Jun 2013 #142
If Manning is convicted and Bush remains free, this country CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #191
That's just a silly thing to say. MADem Jun 2013 #199
Bush has the blood of (at a minimum) 100,000 innocent poeple on his hands. Go CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #203
Call me when he's indicted. MADem Jun 2013 #208
If it were not for the original sin of Operation Shocking and Awful, Manning CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #210
If Manning hadn't volunteered to join the Army, he never would have served either. MADem Jun 2013 #211
Well, if you go back to my original post that began this little sub-thread CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #212
Well, he didn't do it on his own. MADem Jun 2013 #216
Your Cheney and my Cheney are two quite different monsters. The last time CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #218
Well, you must be following the guy closely. MADem Jun 2013 #219
Not Fox. Truthout. Here ya go: CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #220
Good grief, that's an advocacy site read by less than one percent of the country. MADem Jun 2013 #221
Truthout reports on an appearance by Cheney on ABC's CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #259
Three YEARS ago. Not last week, not last month, not even last YEAR. MADem Jun 2013 #305
There is no statute of limitations for war crimes or for murder. - nt CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #325
But there is one for what constitutes "news"--and a cite from three years ago is not news. nt MADem Jun 2013 #328
Thanks. That's exactly why I've thought all along that wikileaks is bad news ucrdem Jun 2013 #104
Thank you. moondust Jun 2013 #140
Thank you, Proud Public Servant, it is really beneficial Cha Jun 2013 #148
Thank you so much for your post. Number23 Jun 2013 #161
The Arab Spring was certainly inspired dreamnightwind Jun 2013 #213
Can you explain why in 3 yrs there hasn't been a single verified victim of the "data dump"? leveymg Jun 2013 #318
A post like this really gets under the skin of the conservatives. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #70
But But But Some Day They Will Have Their Boot On Someones Throat HangOnKids Jun 2013 #74
Classic authoritarian behavior. Find someone small to pick-on. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #82
Pity them when the small person turns out to be so much bigger HangOnKids Jun 2013 #85
They can stand with the torturers and mass murderers kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #103
They're not very Democratic. Octafish Jun 2013 #119
Seven Myths about Bradly Manning. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #77
An Excellent Point. KoKo Jun 2013 #262
Solidarity with PFC Manning! n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #87
Me, too. OTOH, the leaders who lied America into war aren't getting deserved attention these days. Octafish Jun 2013 #282
Anybody who makes it through basic training... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #99
Of course he should be on trial. He broke the law. Simple as that. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #108
Presidenture Poppy Bush and Secretary Cheney broke the law by lying America into war in 1990. Octafish Jun 2013 #330
He's a criminal... sweet pudgy little pink cheeks and all. n/t lamp_shade Jun 2013 #127
Did you come up with that all by yourself? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #139
As opposed to "Did you come up with that all by yourself"? You think that's original? nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #182
Are we debating originality here Steve? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #183
Your question was about originality. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #184
No it wasn't HangOnKids Jun 2013 #185
I'm happy to let DUers interpret whether "Did you come up with that all by yourself?" addresses stevenleser Jun 2013 #189
Knock Yourself Out Steve HangOnKids Jun 2013 #205
Agreed, starting with Bush and Cheney... KansDem Jun 2013 #130
Who was Really “Aiding the Enemy?” Octafish Jun 2013 #331
1. Totally agree and K and R. 2. Slightly off topic: does anyone have a relevant link Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #138
Daniel Ellsberg talking about Manning case on The Cycle (MSNBC): link from Charles Pierce's column deurbano Jun 2013 #143
Berrigan's support of Manning means alot to me duhneece Jun 2013 #144
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #145
So what does the government expect felix_numinous Jun 2013 #159
Have any of you John2 Jun 2013 #166
He didn't take anything off base. He opened a backdoor and transferred files. MADem Jun 2013 #222
I believe there is already something in place Manning could have used which is cstanleytech Jun 2013 #175
Another hero, who like Manning, would not sacrifice his humanity. He rescued the two children sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #163
Awesome! tblue Jun 2013 #207
Yes, indeed...Important Post...thanks Sabrina. KoKo Jun 2013 #266
Almost Gone by Graham Nash and James Raymond (Manning song) johnnyreb Jun 2013 #172
Most Excellent Video Johnnyreb HangOnKids Jun 2013 #214
Solidarity with Manning! Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #174
Bravo! - nt CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #178
Nope, Bradley Manning should be on trial Riftaxe Jun 2013 #181
I'll bet you would have been A-OK with jailing CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #192
K&R idwiyo Jun 2013 #187
if manning was the patriot Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #225
Col. Ted Westhusing went that route and for his trouble ended up dead. Octafish Jun 2013 #336
the ignorance being disseminated about Bradley Manning is embarrassing Swagman Jun 2013 #226
He has pled guilty to ten charges hack89 Jun 2013 #236
LOL another one who doesnt know anything about military law AnalystInParadise Jun 2013 #238
Bullshit he exposed no crimes. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #246
Manning exposed no crimes, provided one pays no attention whatsoever CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #258
K&R midnight Jun 2013 #235
"The truth is Manning has done a great service, both to MI5 and the UK as a whole." ucrdem Jun 2013 #250
Please take the hyperbole elsewhere HangOnKids Jun 2013 #257
Don't bother explaining, I don't want to know. Bye. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #264
What a HOOT! n/t HangOnKids Jun 2013 #268
Who're the real traitors? Bush and Cheney who lied America into war? Octafish Jun 2013 #293
Problem with Cheney and Bush is cstanleytech Jun 2013 #301
Are you suggesting that some of the docs were leaked intentionally? Tunisia, Karzai, Iran cables? leveymg Jun 2013 #317
Not some, all. Climategate? ucrdem Jun 2013 #333
Hmm . . . leveymg Jun 2013 #339
Our government has been up to some dirty shit. JEB Jun 2013 #261
SECRECY means NO ACCOUNTABILITY Octafish Jun 2013 #292
When the deceptive operation of the warfare state can’t stand the light of day G_j Jun 2013 #332
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