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In reply to the discussion: Officers of the United States Government should be on trial -- not PFC Bradley Manning. [View all]randome
(34,845 posts)17. From Rachel Maddow's show last night.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26315908/#52089598
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Octafish
Jun 2013
OP
Big difference is I post useful information that adds to what we know about the gangsters.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#90
What you just posted is nonsense. Everyone here is subject to being asked for links with backup.
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#134
Of course you don't, but a whole lot of other people, do. Occulus, a great DUer like Octafish
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#197
So far, due to the fact that RFK Jr has credibility, as opposed to his few detractors, and I
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#265
+ a million. And it would be a perfect 100% over the people high fiving that personal attack on him
Number23
Jun 2013
#202
I couldn't agree more, and I have no doubt at all that a majority of people here
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#195
yup, their anti vax woo, as well as constant campaigning against Dems, makes DU special...
dionysus
Jun 2013
#255
Call it what you want, you're still wrong. Greenwald is correct on Manning vs. the Warmongers
Octafish
Jun 2013
#329
Sid - Ellsberg didn't have time to read all the Pentagon Papers, either. Your argument is trash.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#234
Excellent post and everyone knows that the nonsensical claim that 'he didn't read
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#270
Sid, Ellsberg actually says the term "data dump" . . ." is the opposite of the truth."
leveymg
Jun 2013
#294
But, not a single act of persecution as a result of a quarter million unvetted docs in 3 yrs?
leveymg
Jun 2013
#314
That's a little circular. Secrets to protect secrets, etc. Are you speculating, or is that based in
leveymg
Jun 2013
#319
I just amended the previous post to give an example. And then I found this one:
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#320
As someone who's prepared hundreds of Ethiopian asylum claims, I am not in the least
leveymg
Jun 2013
#321
I think there is no question we would be better off if it had not been released. If Manning had
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#135
I did not read all the Wikileaks, but I feel better off that he released them.
JDPriestly
Jun 2013
#153
We are better off, although it may take a while for this country to acknowledge that.
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#204
I'll take the most famous and most credible Whistle Blower's word on that. Daniel
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#164
absolute garbage. Who is this "private entity" that has "hostility to the USA"?
Swagman
Jun 2013
#231
That he didn't follow "legal procedures" doesn't make him any less a whistleblower - it just put him
leveymg
Jun 2013
#299
The difference is, Nixon unleashed the Plumbers on Ellsberg and got himself Impeached.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#315
No. Otherwise the Pentagon would not report that national security was not harmed by WikiLeaks.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#5
He has not been convicted, yet you think him so. Is that based on something you learned on tee vee?
Octafish
Jun 2013
#12
Strange. My link below works fine but Premium's does not. I don't see the difference.
randome
Jun 2013
#91
The thing is that CBS report also goes to The Times article that was debunked from 3 years ago.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#125
There are zero follow-up reports. No evidence reported. Three years on. Ergo, de-bunked.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#165
Leaking the names of hundreds of overseas informants was NOT the right thing to do.
randome
Jun 2013
#38
Great question. Thanks also for sharing that story about your relative, the WAC.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#248
Alot of us are not that familar with the UCMJ so could you link the specific section that
cstanleytech
Jun 2013
#173
Great. A splash page for the show. The only place I've seen anyone link to such is Free Republic.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#22
So? That's a different thing, entirely. You have yet to show where I called anyone a freeper.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#121
Do you have source materials, an 8 minute video from an opnion show is not really news.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#23
Even in the crappiest democracy there wouldn't be assassination of Americans without trial.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#291
The pentagon does not have covert agents in the field. Get back to me when the CIA says it has not
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#132
Are we five years old now? Is any country going to acknowledge the elimination of its agents or
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#167
LOL, Manning didn't do that. He released hundreds of thousands of documents at random.
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#168
LOL is an entirely appropriate response. He had options for addressing the specific wrongdoing
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#180
You mean, apart from the Army's interns at CNN and NPR, a direct phone call from CIA works wonders.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#338
What I know: People killed by Bradley Manning-0. People killed by Bush & Cheney-100,000+
Octafish
Jun 2013
#335
Bush. Cheney. Powell. Rumsfeld...When will they go on trial for lying America into war?
Octafish
Jun 2013
#20
'Washington Babylon' explains why things are so messed up that money really does trump peace.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#31
And yet in one case we are told to 'turn the page, look forward, turn a blind eye to crime'
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#27
I advocate for the prosecution of Bush, Cheney et al, often on my radio show. So thats not true. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#129
I'm eagerly awaiting the trials of the murderers and other miscreants he exposed.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#21
Wait a second!!! That makes no sense!! Manning dumps 700k documents and videos and
msanthrope
Jun 2013
#52
We needed a Bradley Manning to tell us that Bush and Cheney are criminals??? I think not. nt
msanthrope
Jun 2013
#117
Obviously, the "dumping" of documents was harmless and he should be released.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#56
Those named were corrupt officials whose names were originally in a Dari-language academic paper.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#300
It's interesting that in 3 yrs since that article appeared, not one verified case of harm.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#310
Believe me, if there was one severed head, we would have seen it. Over and over and over again.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#313
Great point. The thing is, the other documents revealed State Department work for money grubbers.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#253
It is well known that there is a rather large portion of Govt. that is above the law.
Dragonfli
Jun 2013
#28
(02:14:21 PM) Manning: listened and lip-synced to Lady Gaga’s Telephone while exfiltratrating possi
msanthrope
Jun 2013
#114
Stomping on a lowly soldier who got disgusted with our horrible forever wars...
Peace Patriot
Jun 2013
#43
Bush has the blood of (at a minimum) 100,000 innocent poeple on his hands. Go
CharlesInCharge
Jun 2013
#203
If it were not for the original sin of Operation Shocking and Awful, Manning
CharlesInCharge
Jun 2013
#210
If Manning hadn't volunteered to join the Army, he never would have served either.
MADem
Jun 2013
#211
Well, if you go back to my original post that began this little sub-thread
CharlesInCharge
Jun 2013
#212
Your Cheney and my Cheney are two quite different monsters. The last time
CharlesInCharge
Jun 2013
#218
Good grief, that's an advocacy site read by less than one percent of the country.
MADem
Jun 2013
#221
But there is one for what constitutes "news"--and a cite from three years ago is not news. nt
MADem
Jun 2013
#328
Can you explain why in 3 yrs there hasn't been a single verified victim of the "data dump"?
leveymg
Jun 2013
#318
Me, too. OTOH, the leaders who lied America into war aren't getting deserved attention these days.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#282
Presidenture Poppy Bush and Secretary Cheney broke the law by lying America into war in 1990.
Octafish
Jun 2013
#330
As opposed to "Did you come up with that all by yourself"? You think that's original? nt
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#182
I'm happy to let DUers interpret whether "Did you come up with that all by yourself?" addresses
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#189
1. Totally agree and K and R. 2. Slightly off topic: does anyone have a relevant link
Smarmie Doofus
Jun 2013
#138
Daniel Ellsberg talking about Manning case on The Cycle (MSNBC): link from Charles Pierce's column
deurbano
Jun 2013
#143
I believe there is already something in place Manning could have used which is
cstanleytech
Jun 2013
#175
Another hero, who like Manning, would not sacrifice his humanity. He rescued the two children
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#163
"The truth is Manning has done a great service, both to MI5 and the UK as a whole."
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#250