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Marrah_G

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80. There are two kinds of benefits on an EBT card

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:52 AM

Jun 2013

Cash and food.

The cash part can be used like a debit card for most things other then tobacco and alcohol. The cash part can also be used like an atm card. So if someone wants to buy alcohol or tobacco with the cash part then they would need to withdraw the money from an atm first. If they want to go to a casino there they would have to take the cash out of an atm first.

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Gov. Rick Scott signs bill banning EBT card use at casinos [View all] alp227 Jun 2013 OP

And this is a bad thing why bottomofthehill Jun 2013 #1

Legislating morality is essentially always bad. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #2

WHAT !!!!??? Legislating morality? Nonsense BlueStreak Jun 2013 #112

I 100% agree with you, premium Jun 2013 #118

There are much bigger issues to address than this. mick063 Jun 2013 #185

I think you are right bottomofthehill Jun 2013 #195

uh, isn't EBT state assistance? burnodo Jun 2013 #215

Do you think you have the right to tell poor people to spend the money given to them? n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #9

In a sense, yes. Chan790 Jun 2013 #22

The money is given to them as THEY see fit...not for you to decide...nor anyone else... cynatnite Jun 2013 #26

"Do morality cops carry morality badges, too?" It's called the Bible. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #28

ROFLMAO! cynatnite Jun 2013 #30

DUzy! Scruffy Rumbler Jun 2013 #210

I live in FL, I haven't seen "Food Stamps" in years... Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2013 #123

strip clubs? gambling? burnodo Jun 2013 #217

That's what this is about. Setting a precedent to dictate more things. Pragdem Jun 2013 #75

EBT cards don't work at casinos Warpy Jun 2013 #173

This^^^+1000 nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #200

I feel filthy! defacto7 Jun 2013 #3

Telling the poor they're too stupid to know where to spend their money is a blight on the poor. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #4

EBT is for food, for necessities, not for gambling or porn or such things. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #8

And not allowing people to make such decisions debases them as intellectual beings. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #12

No. We are saying, "hey, we want you and your children to be well nourished". nt. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #39

"...and we don't trust you to make the right decision because you're stupid and poor." Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #40

In some cases, adults will let their kids go without. That's not right. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #42

Whoa... that's a mouth full. defacto7 Jun 2013 #46

I'm surprised that I had to scroll this far to find PotatoChip Jun 2013 #58

Unfortunately not all parents are as OwnedByCats Jun 2013 #65

Exactly!! So much hysteria and frenzy over the poor abusing assistance.. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #91

I can multi-task joeglow3 Jun 2013 #127

That was my thought: "And how much of a problem is this in real life?" JHB Jun 2013 #125

+1 leftstreet Jun 2013 #137

Maybe the intent by Republicans is bad, but this does not make it a bad rule. This should have been Pisces Jun 2013 #148

I never said that this is a "bad rule". PotatoChip Jun 2013 #163

Ya know, premium Jun 2013 #165

That's ok, we're good. PotatoChip Jun 2013 #181

They are free to do what they like with their own money... Pelican Jun 2013 #59

What makes you think that people are using it for that? PotatoChip Jun 2013 #62

If the level is .01%, 1%, 10% or 100%.... Pelican Jun 2013 #66

I am totally convinced that it is 0%... PotatoChip Jun 2013 #67

The number is more than zero... Pelican Jun 2013 #72

Where? What posts? Maybe I missed it, but I can't find PotatoChip Jun 2013 #73

Post #55 scratches the surface... Pelican Jun 2013 #84

Wow. That is a LOT of money. bunnies Jun 2013 #94

What makes you think that they are not using it for living expenses? (nt) PotatoChip Jun 2013 #98

At casinos, strip clubs and liquor stores? bunnies Jun 2013 #109

They are accessing their cash there. PotatoChip Jun 2013 #117

Ever used an ATM at a casino or strip club? bunnies Jun 2013 #121

Ok. This reply is the first one that makes sense to me PotatoChip Jun 2013 #135

Truth is... bunnies Jun 2013 #141

Yeah, ok. premium Jun 2013 #122

I already addressed this in 2 other posts... PotatoChip Jun 2013 #128

And you would be wrong on ATM fees. premium Jun 2013 #133

Maybe in NV... bunnies Jun 2013 #143

It's probably the same in NV. premium Jun 2013 #145

I recently went to use the ATM at a bar in boston... bunnies Jun 2013 #151

$10.00 BUCKS! premium Jun 2013 #154

I absolutely love your summer weather! bunnies Jun 2013 #157

Well, they do say it's a dry heat, premium Jun 2013 #161

I haven 't been here very long... Pelican Jun 2013 #134

lol. bunnies Jun 2013 #144

Every single bit of this so-called "proof" that you provided PotatoChip Jun 2013 #97

It's a well known fact in the Casinos of NV. premium Jun 2013 #107

Proof. Got any? PotatoChip Jun 2013 #119

Just a lifetime of living here. premium Jun 2013 #124

What is it that you want me to prove? PotatoChip Jun 2013 #126

That in NV, this isn't a problem, premium Jun 2013 #129

You are asking me to prove something that I believe to be a negative. PotatoChip Jun 2013 #130

So you're saying that I don't have a say in how my taxes premium Jun 2013 #136

The ability of some folks... Pelican Jun 2013 #132

Ooooh, ooooh, I know, premium Jun 2013 #139

So you just happen to walk into a casino or strip club and don't spend any money? madinmaryland Jun 2013 #177

Wait, what? Are you implying that I am on welfare? PotatoChip Jun 2013 #184

Having 'food stamps' on a separate EBT card already is saying the poor are too stupid kelly1mm Jun 2013 #160

And then they mercuryblues Jun 2013 #171

Almost non existent AnalystInParadise Jun 2013 #192

state assistance is not a blank check burnodo Jun 2013 #219

EBT isn't a cash only card... cynatnite Jun 2013 #27

I think we should have a separate fund for the poor just so they can have a good time... Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #34

I'd rather just give them the money, treat them with some dignity and let them decide... cynatnite Jun 2013 #35

I agree. What I said was more of a joke. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #36

Understood. No prob. :) n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #37

Nothing like a lap dance to perc you up.... WCGreen Jun 2013 #54

So you would rather the wealthy, corporate, casino, right wing, tea party supporter defacto7 Jun 2013 #11

Super false dichotomy. I believe in treating those in need with dignity and understanding. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #13

Sorry... disagree. defacto7 Jun 2013 #19

So you assume it's a problem because Rick Scott says it's a problem? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #21

You make a very likely point... defacto7 Jun 2013 #23

There are ethical problems with his drug test bill jmowreader Jun 2013 #45

It's meant for food and living expenses madville Jun 2013 #16

I'm a poor person. I receive food stamps. I have no problem with this cali Jun 2013 #51

Okay, and...what? Are you now the spokesperson for poor people? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #52

no. Are YOU? I simply expressed MY opinion. cali Jun 2013 #53

Good one Cali. premium Jun 2013 #81

Are you a spokesman AnalystInParadise Jun 2013 #194

If they spend money in a strip club? Rather than feeding children. Yes we shold prevent that. alphafemale Jun 2013 #57

OK, but would you give your money to a panhandler if you knew that they Zorra Jun 2013 #203

It's not your business to legislate how poor people spend the money given to them. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #7

If what they do with it drags us all down more defacto7 Jun 2013 #14

So, you're a morality cop. Gotcha. cynatnite Jun 2013 #24

No, you feel you are in a corner defacto7 Jun 2013 #31

You're the one who is assuming that what the poor do with the money is your business... cynatnite Jun 2013 #33

You're off the rails now. defacto7 Jun 2013 #38

This isn't about me... cynatnite Jun 2013 #41

I'm not attacking you. defacto7 Jun 2013 #43

If I was angry, you'd know it. It's all good. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #44

You're damned right it's our business, premium Jun 2013 #92

Even people on welfare pay taxes Fumesucker Jun 2013 #214

Oh I know that taxes are collected on welfare benefits, premium Jun 2013 #218

It certainly is when it's taxpayer funded money. nt. premium Jun 2013 #82

It damn well is... Springslips Jun 2013 #85

For the record, it's not that people are over funded nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #103

To be more clear... Springslips Jun 2013 #206

I am not arguing with you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #207

My thought was and this is a huge problem? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #32

That was my first question Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #49

More often than you think. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #105

"it is a real problem" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #175

Some links... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #178

You said "it is a real problem" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #188

You can go look for it yourself nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #189

I would like a link to actual facts and numbers Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #222

care to provide proof of that contention? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #186

I see a zombie, I see the ignore list nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #208

don't worry...I will Most certainly have a wonderful life VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #213

Here's the thing: Was it actually common for people in Wisconsin to use their EBT cards at Casinos? TheDebbieDee Jun 2013 #102

It is in NV. premium Jun 2013 #111

This version is better: sakabatou Jun 2013 #5

You would have to know anime and especially Chobits to get that. onehandle Jun 2013 #20

Yup, but it's still funny sakabatou Jun 2013 #47

Completely pointless waste of time for this morality police legislation... cynatnite Jun 2013 #6

just how much does this really occur? hollysmom Jun 2013 #10

You may have a point there... defacto7 Jun 2013 #15

That's what I was going to ask. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #25

good point hollysmom Jun 2013 #152

A person can pull the cash off the card at any ATM. No logical way to track how it's spent. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #29

see #55 n/t handmade34 Jun 2013 #56

it didn't say how much hollysmom Jun 2013 #153

That'll create jobs! onehandle Jun 2013 #17

Thank god the leaders of Morality Liberal In Texas Jun 2013 #18

I'm fine with it Captain Stern Jun 2013 #48

I guess a broken clock Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #50

some background... handmade34 Jun 2013 #55

I will agree with Scott when he signs a law Riley18 Jun 2013 #60

I support this. I know we can't stop all the stupid people IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #61

I support this, too. lhooq Jun 2013 #70

DUers come to grips with their inner rightwinger RandiFan1290 Jun 2013 #63

Hell, I'm a moderate Democrat and think this is wrong. nt Pragdem Jun 2013 #76

Are you also against accountability as to how the DoD contractors use tax money? Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #88

^^^This^^^. premium Jun 2013 #93

Bravo nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #114

There is no solution RandiFan1290 Jun 2013 #131

What your shaming of people for not being ideologically pure? Carnage251 Jun 2013 #115

There may be a reason they're poor. ileus Jun 2013 #64

This is lame...who thought this was a problem? Sancho Jun 2013 #68

"Rick Scott is an idiot who just does things to stir up his tea party base." etherealtruth Jun 2013 #110

See response 55. The President appears to be onboard. Actual, or suspected, misuse of bike man Jun 2013 #197

I think this makes the point.. Sancho Jun 2013 #198

". . .For all we know, the people. . ." appears to be speculation to gloss over bike man Jun 2013 #199

No speculation...look at the numbers... Sancho Jun 2013 #221

Republicans really like telling poor people what to do. alarimer Jun 2013 #69

Please don't ever make me.. 99Forever Jun 2013 #71

People on government assistance should be entitled to the same vices... Pragdem Jun 2013 #74

I 100 pct agree with you on restaurants, but not on casino gambling. roamer65 Jun 2013 #89

Good. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #77

My understanding of EBT was that it could only be used for approved items, similar to Food Stamps auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #78

There are two kinds of benefits on an EBT card Marrah_G Jun 2013 #80

Thanks for the clarification nt auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #83

money spent on these things, is bread off the table markiv Jun 2013 #79

I can't even imagine this is such a huge problem that a new law is necessary. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #86

Casino Employee here: This is a real problem. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #87

I had a friend at a liquor store report the same thing Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #90

Spot on. premium Jun 2013 #96

It is a true fact nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #100

Good. nt greytdemocrat Jun 2013 #95

When they finally get us to the cashless society... roamer65 Jun 2013 #99

This blind squirrel found a nut nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #101

Good analogy, nadin. roamer65 Jun 2013 #108

Good! I hope other states do the same - eom lynne Jun 2013 #104

While I do not like the government legislating morality I have to say I do not disagree with this. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #106

If this were a privately funded program premium Jun 2013 #116

This is typical Republican smear legislation. gulliver Jun 2013 #113

Yeah... and besides, we beat them to it! hughee99 Jun 2013 #120

Looks like the Republicans got you with their wedge law. gulliver Jun 2013 #138

I think you might have missed where a Democratic controlled Senate passed it, hughee99 Jun 2013 #146

Sorry, but I would have ignored it as irrelevant. gulliver Jun 2013 #155

The different between bait and food isn't origin, its usage. hughee99 Jun 2013 #162

It's offensive and undermines trust. gulliver Jun 2013 #167

"Progressive dividing"? hughee99 Jun 2013 #180

The big picture is that Republicans are now trying to cut food stamps. gulliver Jun 2013 #183

This law is supposed to address some of the bad apples. hughee99 Jun 2013 #187

I see your point, but I don't think you see mine. gulliver Jun 2013 #191

I understand what you're saying, I just think you're greatly overestimating hughee99 Jun 2013 #193

Obama is involved in this nefarious Republican scheme!!! Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #158

Did you say "the facts on Fox News" in your post? gulliver Jun 2013 #164

Figures differ Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #170

Let you chew on this. The state of California is doing the same thing nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #209

It's completely irrelevant to my point. gulliver Jun 2013 #216

Alas this is a poor law nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #220

Sorry, gotta go with Governor Skeletor on this one. Brigid Jun 2013 #140

As much as it pains me to say this, premium Jun 2013 #142

California already has that law Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #147

That's a darn good law. premium Jun 2013 #150

Yeah, and of course these types of joints love that money Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #156

+10000 premium Jun 2013 #159

In light of Krugman's article from two days ago... gulliver Jun 2013 #176

I don't have a problem with this. We all agree to certain conditions sufrommich Jun 2013 #149

Disappointing news for millionaire casino owners. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #166

I don't have a problem with this law. I DO have a problem with anybody kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #168

The problem, with a minority of users nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #211

I don't understand why there's cash on an EBT card to begin with. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #169

Cash benefits Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #172

I guess they're trying to save money on checks. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #182

Offensive how? shawn703 Jun 2013 #174

false analogy - drunk driving is for the general public hollysmom Jun 2013 #190

+1000 nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #204

Easy politics BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #179

I'm hard-pressed to find anything wrong with this law. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #196

Is EBT card use at strip clubs and casinos an issue? BenzoDia Jun 2013 #201

When I was an Account Manager exboyfil Jun 2013 #202

So, the less welfare you take from the gov, the more it should be policed. That makes sense. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #205

He's just doing what those ultra conservative leeches nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #212