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8. EBT is for food, for necessities, not for gambling or porn or such things.

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Gov. Rick Scott signs bill banning EBT card use at casinos [View all] alp227 Jun 2013 OP

And this is a bad thing why bottomofthehill Jun 2013 #1

Legislating morality is essentially always bad. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #2

WHAT !!!!??? Legislating morality? Nonsense BlueStreak Jun 2013 #112

I 100% agree with you, premium Jun 2013 #118

There are much bigger issues to address than this. mick063 Jun 2013 #185

I think you are right bottomofthehill Jun 2013 #195

uh, isn't EBT state assistance? burnodo Jun 2013 #215

Do you think you have the right to tell poor people to spend the money given to them? n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #9

In a sense, yes. Chan790 Jun 2013 #22

The money is given to them as THEY see fit...not for you to decide...nor anyone else... cynatnite Jun 2013 #26

"Do morality cops carry morality badges, too?" It's called the Bible. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #28

ROFLMAO! cynatnite Jun 2013 #30

DUzy! Scruffy Rumbler Jun 2013 #210

I live in FL, I haven't seen "Food Stamps" in years... Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2013 #123

strip clubs? gambling? burnodo Jun 2013 #217

That's what this is about. Setting a precedent to dictate more things. Pragdem Jun 2013 #75

EBT cards don't work at casinos Warpy Jun 2013 #173

This^^^+1000 nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #200

I feel filthy! defacto7 Jun 2013 #3

Telling the poor they're too stupid to know where to spend their money is a blight on the poor. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #4

EBT is for food, for necessities, not for gambling or porn or such things. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #8

And not allowing people to make such decisions debases them as intellectual beings. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #12

No. We are saying, "hey, we want you and your children to be well nourished". nt. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #39

"...and we don't trust you to make the right decision because you're stupid and poor." Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #40

In some cases, adults will let their kids go without. That's not right. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #42

Whoa... that's a mouth full. defacto7 Jun 2013 #46

I'm surprised that I had to scroll this far to find PotatoChip Jun 2013 #58

Unfortunately not all parents are as OwnedByCats Jun 2013 #65

Exactly!! So much hysteria and frenzy over the poor abusing assistance.. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #91

I can multi-task joeglow3 Jun 2013 #127

That was my thought: "And how much of a problem is this in real life?" JHB Jun 2013 #125

+1 leftstreet Jun 2013 #137

Maybe the intent by Republicans is bad, but this does not make it a bad rule. This should have been Pisces Jun 2013 #148

I never said that this is a "bad rule". PotatoChip Jun 2013 #163

Ya know, premium Jun 2013 #165

That's ok, we're good. PotatoChip Jun 2013 #181

They are free to do what they like with their own money... Pelican Jun 2013 #59

What makes you think that people are using it for that? PotatoChip Jun 2013 #62

If the level is .01%, 1%, 10% or 100%.... Pelican Jun 2013 #66

I am totally convinced that it is 0%... PotatoChip Jun 2013 #67

The number is more than zero... Pelican Jun 2013 #72

Where? What posts? Maybe I missed it, but I can't find PotatoChip Jun 2013 #73

Post #55 scratches the surface... Pelican Jun 2013 #84

Wow. That is a LOT of money. bunnies Jun 2013 #94

What makes you think that they are not using it for living expenses? (nt) PotatoChip Jun 2013 #98

At casinos, strip clubs and liquor stores? bunnies Jun 2013 #109

They are accessing their cash there. PotatoChip Jun 2013 #117

Ever used an ATM at a casino or strip club? bunnies Jun 2013 #121

Ok. This reply is the first one that makes sense to me PotatoChip Jun 2013 #135

Truth is... bunnies Jun 2013 #141

Yeah, ok. premium Jun 2013 #122

I already addressed this in 2 other posts... PotatoChip Jun 2013 #128

And you would be wrong on ATM fees. premium Jun 2013 #133

Maybe in NV... bunnies Jun 2013 #143

It's probably the same in NV. premium Jun 2013 #145

I recently went to use the ATM at a bar in boston... bunnies Jun 2013 #151

$10.00 BUCKS! premium Jun 2013 #154

I absolutely love your summer weather! bunnies Jun 2013 #157

Well, they do say it's a dry heat, premium Jun 2013 #161

I haven 't been here very long... Pelican Jun 2013 #134

lol. bunnies Jun 2013 #144

Every single bit of this so-called "proof" that you provided PotatoChip Jun 2013 #97

It's a well known fact in the Casinos of NV. premium Jun 2013 #107

Proof. Got any? PotatoChip Jun 2013 #119

Just a lifetime of living here. premium Jun 2013 #124

What is it that you want me to prove? PotatoChip Jun 2013 #126

That in NV, this isn't a problem, premium Jun 2013 #129

You are asking me to prove something that I believe to be a negative. PotatoChip Jun 2013 #130

So you're saying that I don't have a say in how my taxes premium Jun 2013 #136

The ability of some folks... Pelican Jun 2013 #132

Ooooh, ooooh, I know, premium Jun 2013 #139

So you just happen to walk into a casino or strip club and don't spend any money? madinmaryland Jun 2013 #177

Wait, what? Are you implying that I am on welfare? PotatoChip Jun 2013 #184

Having 'food stamps' on a separate EBT card already is saying the poor are too stupid kelly1mm Jun 2013 #160

And then they mercuryblues Jun 2013 #171

Almost non existent AnalystInParadise Jun 2013 #192

state assistance is not a blank check burnodo Jun 2013 #219

EBT isn't a cash only card... cynatnite Jun 2013 #27

I think we should have a separate fund for the poor just so they can have a good time... Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #34

I'd rather just give them the money, treat them with some dignity and let them decide... cynatnite Jun 2013 #35

I agree. What I said was more of a joke. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #36

Understood. No prob. :) n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #37

Nothing like a lap dance to perc you up.... WCGreen Jun 2013 #54

So you would rather the wealthy, corporate, casino, right wing, tea party supporter defacto7 Jun 2013 #11

Super false dichotomy. I believe in treating those in need with dignity and understanding. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #13

Sorry... disagree. defacto7 Jun 2013 #19

So you assume it's a problem because Rick Scott says it's a problem? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #21

You make a very likely point... defacto7 Jun 2013 #23

There are ethical problems with his drug test bill jmowreader Jun 2013 #45

It's meant for food and living expenses madville Jun 2013 #16

I'm a poor person. I receive food stamps. I have no problem with this cali Jun 2013 #51

Okay, and...what? Are you now the spokesperson for poor people? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #52

no. Are YOU? I simply expressed MY opinion. cali Jun 2013 #53

Good one Cali. premium Jun 2013 #81

Are you a spokesman AnalystInParadise Jun 2013 #194

If they spend money in a strip club? Rather than feeding children. Yes we shold prevent that. alphafemale Jun 2013 #57

OK, but would you give your money to a panhandler if you knew that they Zorra Jun 2013 #203

It's not your business to legislate how poor people spend the money given to them. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #7

If what they do with it drags us all down more defacto7 Jun 2013 #14

So, you're a morality cop. Gotcha. cynatnite Jun 2013 #24

No, you feel you are in a corner defacto7 Jun 2013 #31

You're the one who is assuming that what the poor do with the money is your business... cynatnite Jun 2013 #33

You're off the rails now. defacto7 Jun 2013 #38

This isn't about me... cynatnite Jun 2013 #41

I'm not attacking you. defacto7 Jun 2013 #43

If I was angry, you'd know it. It's all good. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #44

You're damned right it's our business, premium Jun 2013 #92

Even people on welfare pay taxes Fumesucker Jun 2013 #214

Oh I know that taxes are collected on welfare benefits, premium Jun 2013 #218

It certainly is when it's taxpayer funded money. nt. premium Jun 2013 #82

It damn well is... Springslips Jun 2013 #85

For the record, it's not that people are over funded nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #103

To be more clear... Springslips Jun 2013 #206

I am not arguing with you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #207

My thought was and this is a huge problem? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #32

That was my first question Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #49

More often than you think. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #105

"it is a real problem" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #175

Some links... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #178

You said "it is a real problem" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #188

You can go look for it yourself nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #189

I would like a link to actual facts and numbers Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #222

care to provide proof of that contention? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #186

I see a zombie, I see the ignore list nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #208

don't worry...I will Most certainly have a wonderful life VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #213

Here's the thing: Was it actually common for people in Wisconsin to use their EBT cards at Casinos? TheDebbieDee Jun 2013 #102

It is in NV. premium Jun 2013 #111

This version is better: sakabatou Jun 2013 #5

You would have to know anime and especially Chobits to get that. onehandle Jun 2013 #20

Yup, but it's still funny sakabatou Jun 2013 #47

Completely pointless waste of time for this morality police legislation... cynatnite Jun 2013 #6

just how much does this really occur? hollysmom Jun 2013 #10

You may have a point there... defacto7 Jun 2013 #15

That's what I was going to ask. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #25

good point hollysmom Jun 2013 #152

A person can pull the cash off the card at any ATM. No logical way to track how it's spent. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #29

see #55 n/t handmade34 Jun 2013 #56

it didn't say how much hollysmom Jun 2013 #153

That'll create jobs! onehandle Jun 2013 #17

Thank god the leaders of Morality Liberal In Texas Jun 2013 #18

I'm fine with it Captain Stern Jun 2013 #48

I guess a broken clock Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #50

some background... handmade34 Jun 2013 #55

I will agree with Scott when he signs a law Riley18 Jun 2013 #60

I support this. I know we can't stop all the stupid people IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #61

I support this, too. lhooq Jun 2013 #70

DUers come to grips with their inner rightwinger RandiFan1290 Jun 2013 #63

Hell, I'm a moderate Democrat and think this is wrong. nt Pragdem Jun 2013 #76

Are you also against accountability as to how the DoD contractors use tax money? Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #88

^^^This^^^. premium Jun 2013 #93

Bravo nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #114

There is no solution RandiFan1290 Jun 2013 #131

What your shaming of people for not being ideologically pure? Carnage251 Jun 2013 #115

There may be a reason they're poor. ileus Jun 2013 #64

This is lame...who thought this was a problem? Sancho Jun 2013 #68

"Rick Scott is an idiot who just does things to stir up his tea party base." etherealtruth Jun 2013 #110

See response 55. The President appears to be onboard. Actual, or suspected, misuse of bike man Jun 2013 #197

I think this makes the point.. Sancho Jun 2013 #198

". . .For all we know, the people. . ." appears to be speculation to gloss over bike man Jun 2013 #199

No speculation...look at the numbers... Sancho Jun 2013 #221

Republicans really like telling poor people what to do. alarimer Jun 2013 #69

Please don't ever make me.. 99Forever Jun 2013 #71

People on government assistance should be entitled to the same vices... Pragdem Jun 2013 #74

I 100 pct agree with you on restaurants, but not on casino gambling. roamer65 Jun 2013 #89

Good. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #77

My understanding of EBT was that it could only be used for approved items, similar to Food Stamps auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #78

There are two kinds of benefits on an EBT card Marrah_G Jun 2013 #80

Thanks for the clarification nt auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #83

money spent on these things, is bread off the table markiv Jun 2013 #79

I can't even imagine this is such a huge problem that a new law is necessary. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #86

Casino Employee here: This is a real problem. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #87

I had a friend at a liquor store report the same thing Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #90

Spot on. premium Jun 2013 #96

It is a true fact nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #100

Good. nt greytdemocrat Jun 2013 #95

When they finally get us to the cashless society... roamer65 Jun 2013 #99

This blind squirrel found a nut nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #101

Good analogy, nadin. roamer65 Jun 2013 #108

Good! I hope other states do the same - eom lynne Jun 2013 #104

While I do not like the government legislating morality I have to say I do not disagree with this. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #106

If this were a privately funded program premium Jun 2013 #116

This is typical Republican smear legislation. gulliver Jun 2013 #113

Yeah... and besides, we beat them to it! hughee99 Jun 2013 #120

Looks like the Republicans got you with their wedge law. gulliver Jun 2013 #138

I think you might have missed where a Democratic controlled Senate passed it, hughee99 Jun 2013 #146

Sorry, but I would have ignored it as irrelevant. gulliver Jun 2013 #155

The different between bait and food isn't origin, its usage. hughee99 Jun 2013 #162

It's offensive and undermines trust. gulliver Jun 2013 #167

"Progressive dividing"? hughee99 Jun 2013 #180

The big picture is that Republicans are now trying to cut food stamps. gulliver Jun 2013 #183

This law is supposed to address some of the bad apples. hughee99 Jun 2013 #187

I see your point, but I don't think you see mine. gulliver Jun 2013 #191

I understand what you're saying, I just think you're greatly overestimating hughee99 Jun 2013 #193

Obama is involved in this nefarious Republican scheme!!! Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #158

Did you say "the facts on Fox News" in your post? gulliver Jun 2013 #164

Figures differ Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #170

Let you chew on this. The state of California is doing the same thing nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #209

It's completely irrelevant to my point. gulliver Jun 2013 #216

Alas this is a poor law nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #220

Sorry, gotta go with Governor Skeletor on this one. Brigid Jun 2013 #140

As much as it pains me to say this, premium Jun 2013 #142

California already has that law Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #147

That's a darn good law. premium Jun 2013 #150

Yeah, and of course these types of joints love that money Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #156

+10000 premium Jun 2013 #159

In light of Krugman's article from two days ago... gulliver Jun 2013 #176

I don't have a problem with this. We all agree to certain conditions sufrommich Jun 2013 #149

Disappointing news for millionaire casino owners. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #166

I don't have a problem with this law. I DO have a problem with anybody kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #168

The problem, with a minority of users nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #211

I don't understand why there's cash on an EBT card to begin with. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #169

Cash benefits Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #172

I guess they're trying to save money on checks. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #182

Offensive how? shawn703 Jun 2013 #174

false analogy - drunk driving is for the general public hollysmom Jun 2013 #190

+1000 nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #204

Easy politics BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #179

I'm hard-pressed to find anything wrong with this law. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #196

Is EBT card use at strip clubs and casinos an issue? BenzoDia Jun 2013 #201

When I was an Account Manager exboyfil Jun 2013 #202

So, the less welfare you take from the gov, the more it should be policed. That makes sense. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #205

He's just doing what those ultra conservative leeches nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #212