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In reply to the discussion: Iran's Arsenal Of Sunburn Missiles Is More Than Enough To Close The Strait [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)49. So are they small or large?
Your first paragraph talks about just how small the missiles are. They're tiny. Despite 30 years of technology, we couldn't possibly spot them!
Your last paragraph talks about just how huge they are. They'd leave a gigantic exit wound!!!
Pick one. The missile is either small or large.
Your links that you think shows we have missiles that travel at twice the speed of sound as they leave the silo actually show no such thing ...
My links were out of convenience to a popular site that isn't going to be blocked at most people's work. The fact that you don't know how fast Patriot and SM3 missiles fly doesn't bolster your position.
And again , when a shaped charge sends a piece of metal into a military transport does it just leave a small hole
Pressure waves from explosives that happen to be carrying shrapnel aren't the same as a dud missile.
implying a missile would leave a missile sized hole is absurd
I said roughly missile sized. It's not going to be an exact silhouette of the missile.
We're not talking about tiny fishing boats here. The smallest ships likely to be involved are destroyers, and they're 500 feet long. Carriers are 1000 feet long. The SS-N-22 is about 6 feet wide including the wings. Those wings aren't going to penetrate a damn thing, so now we're talking about something about 3 feet in diameter. Let's pretend that it magically creates a hole three times it's diameter. That's a whopping 9 foot hole. That's not going to sink any naval vessel. Especially because that hole is going to be well above the waterline.
Take a moment to think about this: If the missile's speed alone was enough to sink navy ships, why would the Russians bother to put a warhead on it at all? Warheads are expensive and heavy. If you don't need it, you don't put one on so your missile is cheaper, lighter and better-performing.
have you ever heard of a exit wound
You do realize ships aren't full of non-compressible liquid, right? Exit wounds happen in people because water doesn't compress, and we're mostly water. So the energy blows out into other areas. Ships are full of highly compressible air.
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Iran's Arsenal Of Sunburn Missiles Is More Than Enough To Close The Strait [View all]
Purveyor
Feb 2012
OP
I seriously doubt they would try to sink a carrier after being attacked by the 'West' but I do
Purveyor
Feb 2012
#5
The Straits are 25 miles wide and the center channel is about 12 miles from Iran...
Old and In the Way
Feb 2012
#8
Wouldn't that place the missile launchers themselves in a confined, target-able space?
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2012
#51
I believe they are built on both fixed and mobile launch platforms - land based and sea based.
Old and In the Way
Feb 2012
#53
can you provide me with a list of engagements, successful or not, that consisted of just bombing?
frylock
Feb 2012
#40
I would call dismantling a million man army in less than a month a fucking success.
Muskypundit
Feb 2012
#44
So you honestly think no one would notice Iranian ships stopping thousands of times
jeff47
Feb 2012
#23
That's good to hear. Seems like the coming Iran War should be a relative cakewalk
Hugabear
Feb 2012
#32
He linked the two different kinds of anti-tank weapons to show you the difference
jeff47
Feb 2012
#68
I've tried to verify but I do remember reading that Iran has 1000's of various missiles
Purveyor
Feb 2012
#21
And after the first missile is fired, we will be dropping 10s of thousands of bombs.
jeff47
Feb 2012
#26
Translation: Give more money to the MIC or the bogeyman will eat you.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2012
#12
And the 'silkworms', well we can just make pretty, pretty scarfs out of them all. eom
Purveyor
Feb 2012
#24
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Purveyor
Feb 2012
#27
Every weapons platform Iran has that could be a threat to an American asset is being monitored
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#35
missile strikes on any US ship would lead to air strikes on Iranian missile sights
Motown_Johnny
Feb 2012
#36
The drift of this story is the Iranians don't need no missile sites for the Sunburns
Brother Buzz
Feb 2012
#41