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hunter

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36. Poke around google maps, satellite view. The size of this project is not negligable.

Mon May 20, 2013, 03:38 PM

May 2013

Personally, as a Luddite and radical environmentalist, projects like this disgust me.

They do not "replace" either fossil fuels or nuclear power, they simply add to the amount of energy available for us to use.

The more energy this society has available, the greater our ability to trash the environment.

These wind turbines are a blight upon the natural landscape and will not improve the quality of our lives.

If we want to survive as a civilization we must greatly reduce our economic "productivity" as it is currently defined.

If we don't, mother nature will certainly do the job for us in her usual manner -- by killing off large numbers of us.

Sadly, it won't be so much the people who caused this climate change disaster who perish, it will be people who never owned a car, never had homes connected to an electrical grid, people who never set foot in a "big box" store.

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More Wind Power Industry Stuff & Nonsense from East County Magazine [View all] MineralMan May 2013 OP

Is this related to *this* by any chance... CJCRANE May 2013 #1

I suppose so. It's all nonsense. MineralMan May 2013 #4

Note: Agent Orange and Roundup Are Not the Same. MineralMan May 2013 #2

The confusion probably stems from the fact that Monsanto did make a chemical used in Agent Orange KamaAina May 2013 #9

Yes. That statement was just sloppy writing. MineralMan May 2013 #20

Glyphosate wasn't discovered as an herbicide until 1970. FarCenter May 2013 #28

Yes. That would have made it difficult to use MineralMan May 2013 #29

2,4-D is commonly used -- $9.98 per quart concentrate at Home Depot FarCenter May 2013 #33

When I was growing up, we used to spray diluted diesel fuel on MineralMan May 2013 #34

Thank you, was just looking that up also. I got to that bit and had to stop and research. uppityperson May 2013 #35

Just the portion you showed reeks of bad information. Frustratedlady May 2013 #3

"Monsanto’s Roundup was the ingredient in Agent Orange, the defoliant sprayed in Viet Nam" .... Buzz Clik May 2013 #5

Ayup! Nobody even fact checked the basic premise of the article. MineralMan May 2013 #6

To be fair, most science reporting in the M$M is equally goofy KamaAina May 2013 #7

I've never seen a claim that Agent Orange and Roundup MineralMan May 2013 #8

No it isn't. Buzz Clik May 2013 #10

A lot of "goofy" science reporting is stuff that was simplified poorly, not stuff winter is coming May 2013 #22

But the writer actually "felt panic"! MNBrewer May 2013 #11

That site is really kind of a shame. Brickbat May 2013 #12

So it seems. Either that or the people writing for it MineralMan May 2013 #14

Even if the people writing for it are playing, they're still getting played, because they're not Brickbat May 2013 #16

I don't think the writers for that so-called publication are MineralMan May 2013 #17

That's the impression I get as well. Brickbat May 2013 #18

East County Magazine Does Not Fact Check MineralMan May 2013 #13

NOTE: This thread is about a publication, not about any MineralMan May 2013 #15

Ohhhh, we are all going on the ignore this for this one! FSogol May 2013 #19

That's as may be, but that publication is on my permanent MineralMan May 2013 #21

Did you see this post from Sid on that mag? FSogol May 2013 #23

I did. There's also a link to the Koch Brothers MineralMan May 2013 #25

Who wrote this shit? Cirque du So-What May 2013 #24

The author's name is in the quotation. Not a DUer. MineralMan May 2013 #26

Yes, but Cirque du So-What May 2013 #27

Well, that's true enough, of course. MineralMan May 2013 #30

True, I should have addressed the dreck Cirque du So-What May 2013 #31

I understand the humor in all of this, of course. MineralMan May 2013 #32

Poke around google maps, satellite view. The size of this project is not negligable. hunter May 2013 #36

Actually, I'm quite familiar with large wind farms from MineralMan May 2013 #37

There are many dead abandoned wind turbines in California. hunter May 2013 #47

Some of that site reads like the Onion. NCTraveler May 2013 #38

Yes, well...you're right. MineralMan May 2013 #39

My favourite headline from ECM... SidDithers May 2013 #40

Not sure what you find so funny zappaman May 2013 #41

The article I linked says a blade came off and flew nearly a mile. NCTraveler May 2013 #42

I think I found the source for that claim. winter is coming May 2013 #45

I am not kidding, this is a quote used for the article. NCTraveler May 2013 #43

Boggles the mind, don't it... SidDithers May 2013 #44

That, I am afraid, is the stock in trade of East County Magazine. MineralMan May 2013 #46

That is outrageous. And we are called dim-witted for not believing this shit? n/t Whisp May 2013 #61

You know, if this was a magazine HappyMe May 2013 #48

They've been a leader in spreading SmartMeter woo REP May 2013 #49

Yup. The Luddite Times. MineralMan May 2013 #51

I have a smart water and a smart electric meter tammywammy May 2013 #53

The technology they use is similar to cell phones. MineralMan May 2013 #54

I can go on line and get see my electric use/cost by hour REP May 2013 #55

I like it too. tammywammy May 2013 #56

For few days we were obsessively tracking everything REP May 2013 #57

I remembered this particularly well REP May 2013 #58

I remember that one, too. MineralMan May 2013 #59

I love my smart meter... (sarcasm) They can turn my electricity on and off by remote control. hunter May 2013 #60

What do you expect from an online paper that has no editor!? Rex May 2013 #50

Personally, I expect nothing from such a website. MineralMan May 2013 #52

True and we are accustomed to getting good factual information here on DU. Rex May 2013 #64

It is an editorial, which to me implies it is the author's opinion. Is that what the emag is madinmaryland May 2013 #62

It's an editorial with incorrect facts as its premise. MineralMan May 2013 #63

I don't disagree with you that the opinion expressed in the editorial is based madinmaryland May 2013 #65

I am judging the website based on many instances. MineralMan May 2013 #68

Note: East County Magazine has now edited MineralMan May 2013 #66

I was thinking about that the other day when the self-described editor of that publication was Brickbat May 2013 #67

It's not really editing. It's fact checking before publication. MineralMan May 2013 #69