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In reply to the discussion: RESIDENTS OF OCOTILLO AND BOULEVARD SPEAK OUT, SHARE SAFETY FEARS AFTER TURBINE BLADE FALLS [View all]nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)82. Well, I can't help it.
Sorry.
We thought starting with the kids was a good lead, because we have quoted Donna so many times, regular readers might go, here we go again
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RESIDENTS OF OCOTILLO AND BOULEVARD SPEAK OUT, SHARE SAFETY FEARS AFTER TURBINE BLADE FALLS [View all]
nadinbrzezinski
May 2013
OP
The chances of a broken turbine hitting a local house and causing injury are very slim. nt
ladjf
May 2013
#4
If you have a point, I missed it. Do you feel that the turbine shouldn't have been erected
ladjf
May 2013
#8
Those are ALL things that can be discussed and are reasonable to take into consideration.
MNBrewer
May 2013
#45
It fell on a trail. If this had been daytime on this public land popular with off-roaders
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#294
Hell, I've got eight of them less than a mile from my house, and other homes are much closer...
Scuba
May 2013
#6
Alternative calculation - yields a maximum theoretical range for the blade of about 275m
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#249
she said they don't move, but this one decided to throw itself at someone
Rise Rebel Resist
May 2013
#287
it looks like she is claiming a broken turbine can fling a blade up to a mile away.
Kali
May 2013
#74
ok, this is MAJOR speculation, because I don't really know WTF she is refering to...
Kali
May 2013
#284
This one is a terrible threat to almost 4 million people in the city of Toronto...
SidDithers
May 2013
#94
But where's the gargoyle, perching on the blade? OMFG, invisible gargoyles!!!! n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#102
Nadin - Houses are less than 1/2 mile from turbines; another blade flew 3/4 of a mile in Boulevard.
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#291
There are hundreds, if not thousands of radio towers/TV towers littering our cities and suburbs
titaniumsalute
May 2013
#421
Houses are less than a half mile away, and another blade locally flew 3/4 of a mile.
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#289
you have posted claim that several times with no links or evidence - got anything?
Kali
May 2013
#295
The "editor" links to "windaction.org" which is to a Tea Party and Koch Brothers supported group:
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#347
No. Another blade most certainly did NOT fly 3/4 of a mile. WTH do you get this crap?
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#419
"Siemens issued a statement indicating it has suspended operations worldwide of the failed turbine
Brickbat
May 2013
#2
Could we have a journal citation? A link to the technical report? n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#129
"We do not yet have controlled, peer-reviewed studies that nail down exactly how many people are
winter is coming
May 2013
#149
"Just starting the research" *is* science-speak for "we can't prove shit".
winter is coming
May 2013
#155
I'm not repeating industry talking points. Unlike you, I have some understanding of science.
winter is coming
May 2013
#164
still - I'd rather live underneath a wind turbine than live 50 miles from a nuke plant......
piratefish08
May 2013
#41
Would you like me to provide the information about all the horrific things that batteries can do
jeff47
May 2013
#196
Nowhere in the link you keep providing does it indicate actual, proven cancer clusters
MNBrewer
May 2013
#184
I guess that's the science part, right? You see a cluster, decide the cause, and research it?
Buzz Clik
May 2013
#270
Nadin, "yeah, but PBS sez....." is not a definitive argument for anything
Canuckistanian
May 2013
#315
Seems like at least half of the people in this thread are on your ignore list.
winter is coming
May 2013
#323
No, no it's not. This is a discussion forum and it's rude to shout on the Internet.
winter is coming
May 2013
#72
No, I'm telling you that DU is not a newspaper. If you've got time to cut and paste an article,
winter is coming
May 2013
#86
This is General Discussion, and the LBN title rule says *nothing* about fonts.
winter is coming
May 2013
#126
What is petty and egotistical is ignoring netiquette that's been convention for decades. n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#159
A title that spans two lines is a lot more offensive than something only three words long.
winter is coming
May 2013
#165
I find it annoying to see OP titles in all caps because it's like shouting. This one was
winter is coming
May 2013
#355
well I am confused because you just posted in the thread I linked below and as of 1:05 PM
hrmjustin
May 2013
#357
Does that title span two full lines in your browser? It doesn't, in mine.
winter is coming
May 2013
#358
Two lines are egregious. One, I don't care for but might not complain about.
winter is coming
May 2013
#360
The reason I bring it up is because you have seemed to make Nadin your cause and I just want
hrmjustin
May 2013
#362
Or mabye it is Nadin and people can't let that pass by without comment. This poster was not
hrmjustin
May 2013
#380
The words, yes, but there's no requirement to use the same font/style. Oy. n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#117
Since the article you link/copynpasted was written by you, seems you could modify it for DU.
uppityperson
May 2013
#146
Yes, wrong. Maybe you're using some different, non-CSS definition of "style sheet", but
greyl
May 2013
#337
Wind turbines are not very efficient and are subject to failure like the article describes. Wind,
byeya
May 2013
#95
Thanks for that information. Concentration and monopolization are preferred by large corporations
byeya
May 2013
#111
I remember driving with my father through California and seeing over a hundred of these
hrmjustin
May 2013
#110
You got crickets because the idea is so dumb the audience was shocked into silence.
MindPilot
May 2013
#204
Thanks, you are correct. I've been reading this thread with amusement watching the ignorance about
sabrina 1
May 2013
#339
Wind's EROI (Energy Return On Input) is something like 50. Tar Sands? Something like 5....
Junkdrawer
May 2013
#176
Nothing is perfect, but for myself I would rather have a wind farm close by than
Cleita
May 2013
#185
But turbines can't poison the water table, so where's the thrill of risk?
winter is coming
May 2013
#193
Tar sands will give a return on investment faster...assuming YOU don't have to pay....
Junkdrawer
May 2013
#200
Wind energy isn't as impact free as its proponents would like you to believe...
badtoworse
May 2013
#190
To most experts, though, there's a problem with the bird-mortality argument:
HiPointDem
May 2013
#201
Even that estimate is only about 1% of the mortality attributed to lighted communication towers.
winter is coming
May 2013
#207
ROUNDUP is being sprayed now at wind farms including Ocotillo. The AGent Orange active ingredient.
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#293
Astroturf (plastic grass). First used at the now demolished Astrodome and other enclosed stadiums.
freshwest
May 2013
#413
Note, that in a DUzy-like moment of serendipty, the following OP was listed right below this one:
winter is coming
May 2013
#212
If you want renewable generation that is not owned by big energy companies...
badtoworse
May 2013
#229
Nadin: That link of yours is to a Tea Party and Koch Brothers supported group:
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#342
We need wind generated electricity but we need the safest possible. 1500 accidents in the past 5 yrs
byeya
May 2013
#351
"When one of the blades failed in a windstorm a part of the blade traveled over a mile."
winter is coming
May 2013
#356
This is from the Caithness Windfarm analysis of accidents involving these structures, March, 2013
byeya
May 2013
#361
I'm looking through their website and have downloaded the file giving details of incidents.
winter is coming
May 2013
#365
Okay, here's a report summarizing tornado activity in Kansas last year:
winter is coming
May 2013
#367
I would expect people, or a group, who either opposes something or wants change of some sort to
byeya
May 2013
#366
That's not a bad place to start, but taking the word of an interested party at face value
winter is coming
May 2013
#368
Since this Caithness group puts the events in such detail, I would wait and see what the industry
byeya
May 2013
#371
Saying the blade traveled a mile without mentioning it happened during a tornado is fearmongering.
winter is coming
May 2013
#374
He said "pieces" of blade - so not the whole blade. I can see it falling and cracking and particles
sammytko
May 2013
#384
If the blade has been reduced to "particles" then we also need to worry about broken glass
winter is coming
May 2013
#387
No but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take steps to mitigate against a technology that can be
byeya
May 2013
#393
If indeed this is the one mile incident, then the site should have clearly stated it happened in
byeya
May 2013
#392
There's a file you can download from the Caithness website, describing the incidents.
winter is coming
May 2013
#394
I dunno, but there's nothing there but the building and a tall wooden fence to the right.
winter is coming
May 2013
#388
Lots of pics here at this facebook page for the ocotillo project - no small house
sammytko
May 2013
#400
There are in this picture. Nowhere near it but it is the best I can find in the set.
uppityperson
May 2013
#417
So those 53m blade appear in the photo about the same size as a 1m window
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#402