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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)256. This is what happens
"Left Boils as Obama Floats Major Change to Medicare"
...when the RW media deceive people. President Obama has made no such proposal, and it was pointed out that this was simple the media conflating issues when it was first posted. They are trying to shit stir on the left to protect the rich.
Here is the original post:
From the NYT article in that OP:
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So far, the changes the president has proposed do not go as far as a single deductible and a cap on catastrophic costs. Instead, Mr. Obama has called for increasing the Part B deductible, which has risen much less than medical costs. He also proposed that beneficiaries pay something for home health care, which is among Medicares fastest-growing and most fraud-prone expenses; people just released from the hospital would be exempted.
So far, the changes the president has proposed do not go as far as a single deductible and a cap on catastrophic costs. Instead, Mr. Obama has called for increasing the Part B deductible, which has risen much less than medical costs. He also proposed that beneficiaries pay something for home health care, which is among Medicares fastest-growing and most fraud-prone expenses; people just released from the hospital would be exempted.
The author of the piece in the current OP previously wrote about the RW ads attacking the President's proposal, the piece is posted here:
FreedomWorks hits Obama on Medicare Advantage cuts
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2590498
The group released an online ad Wednesday charging that the cuts will force between 2 and 5 million seniors to lose their private Medicare coverage, placing them back in the traditional program.
Obama Medicare Budget Targets Wealthy Seniors And Drug Makers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/10/obama-medicare-budget_n_3052762.html
Obama budget is a disaster for drugmakers
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10022670043
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that's the fabulous Overton Window--it doesn't just have acceptable margins, but also a neat little
MisterP
May 2013
#27
? child labor laws, child protective services, workplace safety, living wage, employee bargaining,
merrily
May 2013
#112
All the issues I mentioned are human issues. They still all have been considered left issues.
merrily
May 2013
#212
As I posted downthread, if you minimize or dismiss the left, then you can easily minimize any
merrily
May 2013
#218
And if we had a government that cared about the people, rather than private Corporations, we
sabrina 1
May 2013
#189
Good point! Some days I wonder ... I'm really getting fed up with it all ... a no win situation. n/t
RKP5637
May 2013
#9
If you want to go in circles by repeating stuff that made no sense the first time, you are on your
merrily
May 2013
#209
It's cute that you think the government of the most powerful country on the planet runs like a
Marr
May 2013
#269
Are you referencing his comment that his policies would, in the 1980s, have been considered those of
merrily
May 2013
#115
I am glad we have a no move Teabagger Congress. I will be glad when Obama is gone.
Katashi_itto
May 2013
#110
It can be fixed. Likelihood of that happening, however, is a different question.
merrily
May 2013
#139
Oh no, I will keep voting, and am not going anywhere till I finish my Masters
Katashi_itto
May 2013
#163
Eventually, a lot of politicians are going to find themselves part of a huge stir fry. Even the
RKP5637
May 2013
#13
In order to marginalize concerns by characterizing them as from the left, they first had to
merrily
May 2013
#119
Frankly, they are only in touch with $$$$$ in USA, Inc., where each day people count less. This
RKP5637
May 2013
#14
I think you may have misunderstood. I never said people did not do well in 1955.
merrily
May 2013
#142
Unlike the others who responded to my post, you did seem defensive & then hostile to me, but,
whathehell
May 2013
#248
I consider myself to be one of the most fortunate human beings to ever have lived on this planet.
CrispyQ
May 2013
#229
Why not REPEAL the provision that prevents Medicare from negotiating drug prices?
Honeycombe8
May 2013
#15
Yep, none want to rock the boat of big $$$$$ flowing into big pharma. The whole
RKP5637
May 2013
#22
Great idea but negotiation may not be possible after the Trans Pacific Partnership passes.
pa28
May 2013
#23
To the contrary, Medicare for all would be the best way of dealing with health care in this country.
merrily
May 2013
#129
What if the "shit" is true though. It often turns out to be...these days..doesn't it?
KoKo
May 2013
#56
How could you forget, "would you rather have McCain, er check that, I mean Mittens?" nm
rhett o rick
May 2013
#37
Respectfully, rationalizers on message boards are not cutting OASDI or Medicare.
merrily
May 2013
#126
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
OnyxCollie
May 2013
#60
If something is being "floated," I would not expect the details to have been worked out
merrily
May 2013
#134
Is there to be NO acknowledgment by Obama/Congress of the recent complete discrediting of austerity?
HomerRamone
May 2013
#51
He has not changed boats. He has wanted all along to cut what he calls entitlements.
merrily
May 2013
#152
If no one wants to pay much for treatment, being ill is going to cost everyone money.
merrily
May 2013
#204
You who need it most? He would scatter you to the four winds. "Fend for yourself." nt
Poll_Blind
May 2013
#73
Today's democratic platform more closely resembles the republican platform of the 1950s,
CrispyQ
May 2013
#241
I found a few things. The second looks like it is from an insurance industry site.
LeftInTX
May 2013
#78
That works for people who can afford it, have no pre-existing conditions and are younger.
merrily
May 2013
#172
The only elections BHO cared about are in the rearview mirror. Might as well let the real self out.
blkmusclmachine
May 2013
#87
I'm thinking it's a different part of his anatomy that someone has ahold of.
WinkyDink
May 2013
#120
Is the precise way of tucking it to seniors, the disabled and the prematurely orphaned important?
merrily
May 2013
#188
another anti-Obama post. Quaintly noted. BTW, doctors make too much money for a 6 hour day.
graham4anything
May 2013
#93
I remember when people used to say that about the absence of a public option from Obamacare.
merrily
May 2013
#168
What would be the POIINT of "Medicare," then? Does Obama want to sink Hillary?
WinkyDink
May 2013
#118
'Beneficiaries 'pay something for Home Health Care'??? They DO, sadly since this entire
sabrina 1
May 2013
#208
Actually, that is exactly what it means. You can tell that if you read the entire article.
merrily
May 2013
#205
I am not sure that I am what I've been waiting for, but I agree it will take work on our parts.
merrily
May 2013
#265
I am not giving up, either. Just not wasting time on things that have been proven useless.
merrily
May 2013
#267
Why are we still spending millions on nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Rosa Luxemburg
May 2013
#252