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bvar22

(39,909 posts)
103. You are wrong again.
Wed May 1, 2013, 05:57 PM
May 2013

I live in today,
but I REMEMBER the Past.
Especially THIS Democratic Party Past:

"
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be[font size=3] established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.[/font]

Among these are:

*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

*The right of every family to a decent home;

*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

*The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being."--FDR, Economic Bill of Rights, 1944

I EMBRACE that Democratic Party past.
It is inscribed indelibly on my soul,
as are the stories from my father and grandfather who shed BLOOD for the hard fought Union Rights of the Working Class.

Those Democratic Party Values built the Largest, Wealthiest, and most upwardly mobile Working Class the WORLD has ever seen.

There was a time in MY living memory when voting FOR The Democrat
WAS voting FOR those values and RIGHTS listed above.
Sadly, this is no longer true.

It is revealing that you feel we have Moved On,
and fighting FOR the above Traditional Democratic Party Values is
"Living in the Past". There are certainly those here who agree with you,
but I don't.

I won't go gently into that Good Night.
I will continue to fight for the Values listed above,
even if YOU and the other "New Democrats" (Old Republicans) have moved on.


...but you know, its OK.
Thanks to the OLD Values and Working Class Policies of the OLD Democratic Party of the PAST,
my Wife and I HAVE ours.

*We are retired and drawing OUR Social Security (thanks FDR).

*We went to college, got our degrees and graduated DEBT FREE. (Thanks OLD Democratic Party)

*We were able to find and keep GOOD jobs with high wages, benefits, and health care BEFORE "Free Trade" and "Deregulation" (Thanks OLD Democratic Party)

*We were able to buy and pay off good property back when Banking was REGULATED,
and were smart enough to Cash In before the Bubble Popped. (Thanks OLD Democratic Party that protected us.)

*When we weren't happy with a job,
we were able to quit and shop around for a better one without the FEAR of today's "Free Trade" New Democrat perpetual high unemployment and "jobless recoveries" Invisible Hand Economics.
(Thanks OLD Democratic Party)

So, thanks to the legacies from the Past and the OLD Democratic Party
we are BENEFITING from the Past, but living nicely in the present.

The Working Class could have all those things again,
IF enough people studied, embraced, and DEMANDED the PROUD Working Class Values of the Old Democratic Party, but I guess you have moved on.
Too bad.
Unless you can produce some "change" things are very bleak for the American Working Class.
They have NO voice in either Political Party today,
but at least THE RICH won't have to suffer the inconvenience of a delayed flight. (Thanks, New Democrats!)

I fear for the youth who don't KNOW the past,
and will have to repeat all the old mistakes.
The hard fought battles of the Working Class from the 30s - 60s will all have to be fought all over again.
Good Luck to you.
It wasn't easy the first time.

Those who don't know History are condemned to repeat it.


--bvar22
an old, mainstream-center FDR/LBJ loyal Working Class Democratic Party Activist for over 46 years,
now a "Fringe Leftist" in today's "New Democrat" Centrist Party.


[font color=firebrick][center]"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone [/font]
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[font size=1]photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed[/center]
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Agree with Obama on that statement -- he can not FORCE Congress to act. gateley Apr 2013 #1
Maybe he should just accomplish everything They_Live May 2013 #98
No Kidding. Congress could have taken an eight year recess during the Bush gateley May 2013 #104
"...to do what’s right for their constituents and the American people.” kentuck Apr 2013 #2
Now, watch this drive. ok nt msongs Apr 2013 #3
That was ugly and uncalled for. nt DevonRex Apr 2013 #6
Well, if he wanted to do what FDR who had fireside chats with consitutants who have some influence AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #7
FDR had 600 press conferences MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #64
Total vetoes: FDR - 635. Obama - 2. JDPriestly May 2013 #65
Total filibusters: FDR - 0, Obama - 250 + ProSense May 2013 #66
Checkmate. Number23 May 2013 #68
Maybe if Obama used his veto more, there would be fewer filibusters. JDPriestly May 2013 #70
um...what?! tia uponit7771 May 2013 #91
There were different filibuster rules then MannyGoldstein May 2013 #72
Only in that filibusters were even more effective and stopped all business Recursion May 2013 #81
That's part of the difference. MannyGoldstein May 2013 #84
Game, set, match to ProSense (nt) Recursion May 2013 #80
+1 uponit7771 May 2013 #90
If Obama used his veto more often, he would have to deal with fewer filibusters. JDPriestly May 2013 #99
That comment makes no sense. ProSense May 2013 #100
Both houses of congress were controlled by Democrats cheapdate May 2013 #79
But FDR still had a huge number of vetoes. The Supreme Court was set against FDR. JDPriestly May 2013 #85
How many of Obama's Saturday addresses have you listened to? MineralMan May 2013 #87
I listened to him when he said that he would close Gitmo, not hire lobbyists for his Administration, AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #93
Listen to them, and you'll hear what he says. MineralMan May 2013 #94
bless their little hearts, they try so, so hard...watch the tiny lil fists flail in impotent rage... dionysus Apr 2013 #12
Hey you! Just where have you been? DevonRex Apr 2013 #21
wadsworth dragged me on another one of his blasted safaris. you know how he gets dionysus Apr 2013 #43
Standard post from them. Pirate Smile Apr 2013 #15
Yep. DevonRex Apr 2013 #22
No, it was not. Obama is weak, for whatever reason. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #61
your bitter tears are nectar to my soul. dionysus Apr 2013 #11
You just have a way with words, dontcha? Bless your heart. Arkana Apr 2013 #24
Crap! nt MineralMan May 2013 #88
YES AMERICA!! Obama has to explain this to them...something so evident that those with eyes to see uponit7771 Apr 2013 #4
That might work? kentuck Apr 2013 #5
I think... freshwest Apr 2013 #8
This is true and they won't. Rex Apr 2013 #9
I agree. Obama can't do this job. bvar22 Apr 2013 #10
"He is much better at Stand Up and Late Night Talk." ProSense Apr 2013 #13
"Loser" Wow Prosense, angry? n-t Logical Apr 2013 #55
Exactly. GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #14
Typical Tea Party response. railsback Apr 2013 #17
LOL!! GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #26
nope, typical tea party response is to tell half the story like the "majority in both houses" crap uponit7771 Apr 2013 #45
That made no sense. GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #47
Use your own logic railsback Apr 2013 #53
That's apparently what you're doing GaYellowDawg May 2013 #76
Typical "Tea Party Response"? bvar22 Apr 2013 #39
Yes, I live by Tea Part utopia...that's all they have now is a bunch of half truths uponit7771 Apr 2013 #46
Yes railsback Apr 2013 #54
No GaYellowDawg May 2013 #77
You yourself proved your own shallowness in comprehension railsback May 2013 #95
Really? GaYellowDawg May 2013 #105
Well Done! bvar22 May 2013 #111
Republicans just killed background checks for guns railsback Apr 2013 #16
Unlike our President, I don't CARE what Republicans do or think. bvar22 Apr 2013 #40
Bravo! +10,000 smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #42
LOL!!! As you sit on your duff and type your fingers to the BONE!!! DevonRex Apr 2013 #49
He DID do a good job touring the country for modest Gun Control legislation.... bvar22 Apr 2013 #51
He was going around the country trying to get support for an issue that already has A Simple Game May 2013 #106
AND IT STILL DID NOT PASS!!!!! DevonRex May 2013 #112
You seem to have a serious lack of understanding railsback Apr 2013 #50
Aside from your personal unsupported opinion... bvar22 Apr 2013 #60
You offer nothing but fairy tales railsback May 2013 #67
"take a cold shower, change those soiled sheets, and come back to reality." Number23 May 2013 #69
Number23, You & I are at an impasse. bvar22 May 2013 #83
Oh, that is comedy gold every single time you type it. Every SINGLE time. Number23 May 2013 #101
Now THAT is impressive. bvar22 May 2013 #82
You live in the past railsback May 2013 #96
! Even better than the first zinger Number23 May 2013 #102
You are wrong again. bvar22 May 2013 #103
+1 leftstreet May 2013 #89
Thanks. bvar22 May 2013 #97
That's ridiculous. As another responder pointed out, the 'pugs dont care if 90% of the country is stevenleser Apr 2013 #18
Obama = moderate Republican in all but name only Super Iridium Apr 2013 #19
Go away...eom Kolesar Apr 2013 #58
Jonathan Karl Has Some Explaining To Do DallasNE Apr 2013 #20
He means that Obama doesn't have the energy, drive, stubborness to get his way. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #25
Bush Was A Lazy President DallasNE Apr 2013 #28
Which has nothing to do with "juice." GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #34
Obama is not lazy. He is, however, too nice. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #38
I agree, he's got plenty of juice. GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #27
So You're Saying I'm Stupid DallasNE Apr 2013 #30
I'm saying your assertion is stupid. GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #32
Juice means clout or power. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #31
I thought he was referring to political capital. 1KansasDem Apr 2013 #33
None Of These Answers Are Satisfactory DallasNE Apr 2013 #37
What does he want to force Congress to do -- cut Social Security -- enforce No Child Left Behind JDPriestly Apr 2013 #23
Work. Rex Apr 2013 #29
Well, ProSense Apr 2013 #35
LOL, I swear, a hired Whitehouse PR person would be less biased! n-t Logical Apr 2013 #56
LOL! ProSense Apr 2013 #63
If you don't run around with your hair on fire, you are clearly a paid operative. JoePhilly May 2013 #107
Thank you. JDPriestly May 2013 #71
bias = linking facts? tia uponit7771 May 2013 #92
Nope, your contention doesnt work. He has 90% of the people on his side with background checks stevenleser Apr 2013 #36
You'd think more on DU would get that. JoePhilly May 2013 #108
lol nt dionysus Apr 2013 #44
+1000 forestpath Apr 2013 #48
+1 LWolf May 2013 #109
With so many people saying sequestration is a bad thing, and even the President apparently bike man Apr 2013 #41
Becuase "they" got exaxctly what they want....for the 1%. bvar22 Apr 2013 #62
More bullshit excuses bowens43 Apr 2013 #52
Really, and what do you think he could do. When the racist party, er, repuke part does not want to still_one Apr 2013 #59
The sad types who can't write complete sentences love threads like this Kolesar May 2013 #73
That is a valid issue, which the President deserves every single bit of criticism he gets. However, still_one May 2013 #74
True, then that prick Ed Henry asks the president why they are blocking people from testifying still_one Apr 2013 #57
Ed Henry is a clown. n/t ProSense May 2013 #75
Technically he is right. Larkspur May 2013 #78
The fly in the ointment: kentuck May 2013 #86
Can't make brain-dead cloned robots do much of anything, obviously. Useless parasitic slugs. Sorry judesedit May 2013 #110
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