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patrice

(47,992 posts)
37. There are over 300 million people in this country. There are how many liberals?
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:30 AM
May 2013

He is the Liberals' president too.

The REAL questions are about how to make that work for liberal goals*. That seems to me to be more about Liberals and their goals and how Liberal identity and goals are articulated in a way that produces progress toward those goals.

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*Which are what, btw? Yes, I know something about the answer to that question, but I'm asking for those (what??) 280 million people who are not Liberals (depending upon how we define Liberal in terms of concrete deliverables) and who would be affected by _______________________ (???) whatever it is that Liberals would do if they somehow managed to elect a liberal president.


I think polling about job performance that includes nothing of the HOW, except banks, is pretty meaningless. People can answer the same way for entirely different reasons, opposite reasons even. Maybe the problem here is that this is, as always, way more about President Obama than it should be, TOO AUTHORITY FOCUSED, TOO REACTIONARY, too top-down, than it is about Liberals themselves: who they are? what are their behaviors that construct liberalism? liberal process/hows?, liberal outcomes?

You know, like a few unions, the best owners could hope for nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #1
How are you defining liberal here? magellan Apr 2013 #2
Do you think that old people shouldn't be allowed to starve or freeze? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #8
Excellent. n/t magellan Apr 2013 #19
The narrow range of choices is spot on. mick063 Apr 2013 #3
Oh joy, another leading juvenile poll gcomeau Apr 2013 #4
That's all we get from this OP any more scheming daemons Apr 2013 #17
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #5
+ a million. Hope his dwindling fans are taking notice Number23 Apr 2013 #6
He is a bitter dead-ender, and increasingly irrelevant. MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #13
They are legion. Yes, everyone knows. Absolutely LEGION Number23 Apr 2013 #36
On a related note... Electric Monk Apr 2013 #7
You couldn't be more biased if you were a Tea Party Republican lunatica Apr 2013 #9
Agreed. Unrec. n/t FSogol Apr 2013 #25
Hey Manny ... here's a link to a page with a screen saver for you. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #10
A Republican wouldn't have gotten away with what we have allowed Ruby the Liberal Apr 2013 #11
Nobody with an "R" after his or her name could have EVER gotten away with what Obama has pulled duffyduff Apr 2013 #24
at best a rockerfeller republican dembotoz Apr 2013 #12
Rockefeller as in Nelson was a liberal Republican and a good one duffyduff Apr 2013 #26
Under President Obama, the top rate of tax on interest income has increased by 8.4%, Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #14
But then there's this Fumesucker Apr 2013 #15
The answer is dependant on the definition of banker. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #16
Well, he did ProSense Apr 2013 #18
Simon Johnson, a very astute observer of the megabanks, Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #20
Which is Why I didn't vote for "best they could hope for" zipplewrath Apr 2013 #29
To reply explicitly to the premise of this thread, Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #21
Didn't Holder say he can't really hold big banks responsible? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #22
Yes, but you could have made all those points in 2008 too. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #32
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #23
Too bad we can't recall him duffyduff Apr 2013 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #27
meh. Where's the trash can icon... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #28
I don't like the choices but I don't like this presidency, either. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2013 #31
How Many of Manny's 20,000+ Posts Have Been for This Kind of Crap? Indykatie Apr 2013 #33
Manny can't accept that DU doesn't represent the Democratic Party, or the progressive left...... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #35
Oh lookie, a Manny pushpoll. I'm shocked! Shocked, I say! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #34
Well put, "marginal". nt patrice May 2013 #38
There are over 300 million people in this country. There are how many liberals? patrice May 2013 #37
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