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Would anyone here eat this? [View all] Archae Apr 2013 OP
actually, wild bananas were and are eaten by people, being one of the earliest domesticated plants. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #1
Exactly, selective breeding is genetic modification. Archae Apr 2013 #2
not exactly. old-fashioned selective breeding works from a 'palette' of already-existing genes HiPointDem Apr 2013 #5
This is why "GMO labeling" is a dead cause Scootaloo Apr 2013 #6
no, it's not. selective breeding is not analogous to modern genetic modification. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #7
Scientifically, it absolutely is Scootaloo Apr 2013 #11
What? Do you even know the basics of this subject? The term is defined, and not how you're using it Recursion Apr 2013 #13
no, old fashioned selective breeding is not analogous to modern genetic modification. not in HiPointDem Apr 2013 #14
thank you! Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #23
Agreed. Nt newfie11 Apr 2013 #30
+1000 truebluegreen Apr 2013 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author truebluegreen Apr 2013 #70
What if the modification results in exactly the same as what can occur naturally? DCBob Apr 2013 #103
but they don't. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #111
of course they could. DCBob Apr 2013 #117
they 'could' do other things too. and they do. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #118
no doubt... I agree there are issues to consider.. eg. unintended consequences. DCBob Apr 2013 #119
Not in the slightest. Educate yourself. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #49
So youre saying all the kittehs and pups are GMO? darkangel218 Apr 2013 #107
Well, if "GMO" meant what you were pretending it does, you would be right Recursion Apr 2013 #10
Not dead at all. GMO labeling efforts roody Apr 2013 #58
Plant breeding and genetic engineering are two completely different things. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #76
Not the same thing. For one I would eat that unaltered, wild banana and Cleita Apr 2013 #41
Selective breeding can NEVER in a million years insert kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #74
If you have access to specialty markets Warpy Apr 2013 #19
The green banana types cooked in Latin American cuisines are good, too pinboy3niner Apr 2013 #28
Anything that didn't immediately poison the diner Warpy Apr 2013 #88
Organic strawberries are different from non. And no, they aren't the same in most cases. uppityperson Apr 2013 #3
There is absolutely no strain of strawberries called "organic", they are the same plants Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #53
They may be the same plants, but there is a huge difference between my home grown, hedgehog Apr 2013 #77
I bet yours, like mine, do not keep for the same period of time the non-organic store ones do either uppityperson Apr 2013 #86
I agree; one should never eat a food that doesn't go bad properly! hedgehog Apr 2013 #87
You make a very good point! RC Apr 2013 #120
That is true. Strawberries grown by the organic method are not the same as those grown with uppityperson Apr 2013 #85
and the organic strawberries Mnpaul Apr 2013 #121
Not always. LWolf Apr 2013 #97
Love bananas!! longship Apr 2013 #4
Selective breeding is not the same thing as direct genetic manipulation in the lab Fumesucker Apr 2013 #8
Thank you!!! GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #43
Organic sequesters atmospheric CO2; non-organic uses petro carbon Recursion Apr 2013 #9
Huh? Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #51
That was true until a few decades ago Recursion Apr 2013 #68
Synthetic fertilizer derived from the haber-bosch process requires intensive fossil fuel inputs. antigone382 Apr 2013 #101
It's your thought that non-organic foods do not use CO2 during photosynthesis? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #54
Nope Recursion Apr 2013 #63
It is exactly what you said. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #64
Nope Recursion Apr 2013 #67
No, the petroleum based fertalizes provide nitrogen to the plants Salviati Apr 2013 #83
Wow. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. No longer. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #84
Good point - Rodale is increasingly emphasizing the downstream hedgehog Apr 2013 #78
this could be a long thread olddots Apr 2013 #12
It usually is when someone blasts organic farming methods Warpy Apr 2013 #16
He isn't blasting organic at all. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #57
That's rather childish thinking. Warpy Apr 2013 #89
Some organic methods build soil, some do not. Some organic practices are dangerous and polluting. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #92
Exactly. I drink organic milk. I wonder if anyone could guess why. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #96
I expect it to be. Archae Apr 2013 #17
Then answer the posters above tkmorris Apr 2013 #21
It's you who has the 'woo' becaue you conflate GMO with crossbreeding using made up Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #39
"woo" being merely that which does not validate your opinions. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #100
The problems with many GM crops Warpy Apr 2013 #15
Oh good god. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #18
See what I mean? Archae Apr 2013 #20
And yet you still don't answer. tkmorris Apr 2013 #22
The OP is claiming others have an agenda while clearly having one of their own n/t Fumesucker Apr 2013 #24
It would be an odd agenda to have tkmorris Apr 2013 #25
there are some people whose exposure to "natural foods" etc. has been primarily via woo operations Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #27
you're correct that there's a lot of woo out there Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #26
The poster is advancing an agenda rather than arguing in good faith Fumesucker Apr 2013 #29
I happen to suscribe to both Organic Gardening and Prevention magazine hedgehog Apr 2013 #79
You need to read up on "horizontal gene transfer" NickB79 Apr 2013 #104
I was wondering if anybody here would bring this up. Kali Apr 2013 #113
The US Fought wars over Non GM bananas to protect US Corporate Interests enjoyingyourpeasyet Apr 2013 #31
Wild bananas can be wonderful. fasttense Apr 2013 #32
Al Gore's, Bill Maher's and Ted Danson's publisher is a "woo progaganda source"? Heidi Apr 2013 #33
That's what struck me. I never considered Rodale as woo. OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #34
Here are the "woo" publications they offer: cali Apr 2013 #35
Indeed. Thanks, cali. n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #36
Absolutely. I've long considered Rodale a progressive publisher. Heidi Apr 2013 #37
I disagree Marrah_G Apr 2013 #38
Hmmm, I am 70+ years old and no banana I have ever eaten has looked like the green ones you are jwirr Apr 2013 #40
Cause Cavendish bananas were selectively bred nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #60
That is what I was trying to say. Thanks. jwirr Apr 2013 #93
What apologist tripe edhopper Apr 2013 #42
BAN SELECTIVE BREEDING! MineralMan Apr 2013 #44
There's a difference between BlueToTheBone Apr 2013 #45
Idiotic whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #46
Cavendish bananas are not genetically engineered. QC Apr 2013 #47
Umm... modern GM splices in DNA sequences that produce insecticides. reformist2 Apr 2013 #48
Speaking of bananas and genetically altered crops: polly7 Apr 2013 #50
LOL! What a great thread. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #52
Genetically altered or genetically modified? roody Apr 2013 #55
Now you've spoiled part of the fun. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #59
Yup, once it ripens nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #56
More overwrought Science Poo Berlum Apr 2013 #61
Nonsense. You can get non-GMO, organic food everywhere. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #65
But GMOs are occultly lurking just about everywhere Berlum Apr 2013 #71
"Organic" is a con -- a buzzword? gateley Apr 2013 #62
Sure I would burnodo Apr 2013 #66
I think I have eaten that. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #72
Complete FAIL. You are ignorant of basic science. Non-GMO modern bananas are diverse genetically KittyWampus Apr 2013 #73
Oh, and BTW Cavendish bananas are not GMOs. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #75
What an assumption... Kalidurga Apr 2013 #80
Enjoy the Cavendishes while you can - they are suffereing from one of the drawbacks of hedgehog Apr 2013 #81
This post is total bullshit. bunnies Apr 2013 #82
This post is total bullshit from the usual RW sources. Flame bait. leveymg Apr 2013 #90
Agreed. They do not respond to the many posts explaining the difference. Pisces Apr 2013 #94
I dispute LWolf Apr 2013 #91
There are many reputable organic farms. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #95
Ever tasted wild strawberries? Generic Other Apr 2013 #98
I sure have, they really are good. IF I can ever find them! Archae Apr 2013 #99
You can grow them in your own yard Marrah_G Apr 2013 #102
This argument seems to be based around semantics, in my opinion. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #105
I get your point and tend to agree with you but.. DCBob Apr 2013 #106
Is Organic Better? Ask a fruit fly. nessa Apr 2013 #108
GMO and seletively bred organisms are different Progressive dog Apr 2013 #109
Wow! peace13 Apr 2013 #110
If GM foods are so great & wonderful, why does Big Ag fight tooth&nail against labeling reqs? baldguy Apr 2013 #112
Artificial selection does NOT equal GMO. sakabatou Apr 2013 #114
Don't tell Kirk Cameron. nt alphafemale Apr 2013 #115
I'm pretty sure I saw cliffordu chomping on the first one. rug Apr 2013 #116
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