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Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
203. Fixate..?What the hell is wrong with you..?
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:31 PM
Apr 2013

...(perhaps) no one has been killed with these things yet. Not yet. Would you rather just wait until somebody takes out a high-value target?

Why are you fixating on defending these weapons?

There are about 2500 of these weapons in the civilian population in the US. The exact number of 50 caliber semiautomatic rifles sold in the domestic civilian market cannot be determined, since Barrett Arms has refused to cooperate with the GAO inquiry.

There's been some close calls, tho.

In January 2009, an Omaha, Nebraska man was arrested for threatening then-President-elect Barack Obama. The man told a Veteran's Affairs official,"I would like to shoot Obama and do it with a sniper shot." The man, Johnnie Galarza, claimed he owned a .50 sniper rifle and that he was trained as a sniper in the U.S. Army. Galarza's threat was reported to the Secret Service.

On April 4, 2008 a Florida man was arrested on federal charges of using the internet to make threats to recreate the 2007 massacre at Virginia Tech that left 32 people dead. The man had amassed an arsenal that included a 50 caliber sniper rifle along with 13 other firearms and 5,000 rounds of ammunition, including 50 caliber rounds.

On April 1, 2008, police in Hanover Maryland found a cache of firearms including a 50 caliber Barrett sniper rifle, an Uzi, and several other rifles and handguns in a hotel room after a man was evicted from the room.

In March 2008 a police officer in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico was killed with a 50 caliber sniper rifle. The gun's origin was linked to Phoenix, Arizona according to law enforcement officials.

On February 17, 2008 police in Newbury, Massachusetts charged a man with 26 counts of failing to safely store weapons after officers responding to a domestic violence call found 20 firearms including a 50 caliber Armalite sniper rifle.

On September 20, 2007, federal agents seized a 50 caliber sniper rifle from Ray Ross who was indicted in connection with a massive criminal conspiracy to distribute illegal anabolic steroids and other illicit drugs.

On September 12, 2007, police in Suffolk County, New York arrested a man and charged him with conspiring to aid tax protesters who had barricaded themselves in their fortified home in New Hampshire in an effort to evade arrest on numerous tax charges. Police seized firearms, including two 50 caliber sniper rifles and a bomb, from the New York man's home.

On September 11, 2007, a Salem Oregon man was arrested on charges of second-degree criminal mischief and reckless burning after starting a wildfire by firing armor-piercing incendiary ammunition from a 50 caliber sniper rifle into a tree stump. The fire took days to extinguish and caused major damage to private forest land. The sheriff's department spokesman was quoted as saying, "The problem with a weapon like this is that you can't safely shoot it anywhere."

On July 16, 2007, police in New Haven, Connecticut arrested a Yale University student for illegal discharge of a firearm, reckless endangerment, and second degree threatening, among other charges. Police seized a 50 caliber sniper rifle, an AR-15 assault rifle, numerous pistols, and "various chemicals" from the student's fraternity house.

On May 16, 2007, law enforcement officials in Connecticut charged James E. Gasser with multiple crimes in connection with a lengthy standoff with police after the man discharged a firearm in his home. Among the guns police seized from Gasser's home was a 50 caliber sniper rifle along with .50 ammunition.

On April 30, 2007, Arthur A. Garcia of Rice Lake, Wisconsin was arrested on federal charges of being an unlawful drug user in possession of firearms. An arsenal of weapons was seized from his mobile home, including a Vulcan Arms 50 caliber sniper rifle along with assault weapons, body armor, and armor-piercing ammunition. A police informant stated that he had been to Garcia's home several times in a two month period and during each visit Garcia talked continuously about shooting people. According to the informant's statement, Garcia threatened to shoot his ex-girlfriend and her family while they attended church services. Referring to the recent shootings at Virginia Tech, Garcia stated, "The guy had a good start, but screwed up when he shot himself in the head," according to the informant. Garcia also allegedly told the informant that he (Garcia) would have to be killed but not before he had a body count of 1,000.

In August of 2006, William Gerald Thomas of Gainesville, Georgia was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and use of a firearm while under the influence of alcohol for brandishing a rifle and then a machine gun at a bystander after the parents of two 14-year old girls intervened to stop Thomas from harassing the girls at a motel pool. When police executed a search warrant on Thomas' SUV, they found 38 weapons including 50 caliber sniper rifles, assault weapons, and 2,000 rounds of ammunition.

In June of 2006, Anthony Troianello was arrested in Binghamton, New York on illegal weapons charges. The cache of guns that police recovered at his home included several assault weapons, three handguns, and a 50 caliber anti-armor sniper rifle.

In May of 2006, a White Supremacist gang was indicted in Arizona on drug and weapons charges, including the sale to undercover officers of a stolen 50 caliber sniper rifle. The rifle was represented by the gang as powerful enough to destroy an armored car or shoot down a Phoenix Police helicopter. According to a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms who participated in the investigation, "The destructive capacity of those weapons [50 calibers] makes the streets much safer without them....No question."


In March of 2005, Kyle Harness of Marina del Rey, California, was arrested after being pulled over on a traffic stop and found to be in possession of a stolen Armalite 50 caliber sniper rifle. Harness was stopped for having a broken taillight and false registration tags, and was on parole for armed robbery at the time of his arrest.

In June of 2004, Marvin Heemeyer of Granby, Colorado, plowed a makeshift armored bulldozer into several buildings in response to a zoning dispute and fines for city code violations. Heemeyer armored his 60-ton bulldozer with two sheets of half-inch steel with a layer of concrete between them. He methodically drove the bulldozer through the town of Granby, damaging or leveling 13 buildings before taking his own life. Heemeyer mounted three rifles on the bulldozer, including a Barrett 82A1 50 caliber sniper rifle.

In February of 2004, Donin Wright of Kansas City, Missouri, lured police officers, paramedics, and firefighters to his home where he shot at them with several guns including a Barrett 50 caliber sniper rifle. Authorities discovered at least 20 guns, thousands of rounds of ammunition, and the makings of 20 pipe bombs inside Wright's home.

According to the General Accounting Office (GAO), 50 caliber sniper rifles have been found in the armories of drug dealers in California, Missouri, and Indiana. A federal investigation in 1999 was "targeting the movement of .50 caliber semi-automatic rifles from the United States to Mexico for use by drug cartels."

On March 19, 1998, following an undercover investigation, federal law enforcement officers arrested three members of a radical Michigan group known as the North American Militia. The men were charged with plotting to bomb federal office buildings, destroy highways, utilities, and public roads, and assassinate the state's governor, senior U.S. Senator, federal judges, and other federal officials. All three were ultimately convicted. A 50 caliber sniper rifle was among the weapons found in their possession.

In the summer of 1995, Canadian officials in British Columbia found a Barrett 50 caliber sniper rifle, 500 rounds of ammunition, and enough explosives to fill a five-ton truck at a remote site. It is believed that members of a Texas militia group planned to set up a training camp at the site.

On April 28, 1995, Albert Petrosky walked into an Albertson's grocery store in suburban Denver, Colorado, and gunned down his estranged wife and the store manager. Armed with an L.A.R. Grizzly 50 caliber sniper rifle, an SKS Chinese semiautomatic assault rifle, a .32 revolver, and a 9mm semiautomatic pistol, Petrosky then walked out into the shopping center parking lot, where he exchanged fire with a federal IRS agent and killed Sgt. Timothy Mossbrucker of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department. Petrosky, who was known to his friends as "50-cal Al," fired all four weapons, including the 50 caliber rifle, during his murderous rampage.

Branch Davidian cult members at a compound in Waco, Texas, fired 50 caliber sniper rifles at federal ATF agents during their initial gun battle on February 28, 1993. The weapons' ability to penetrate tactical vehicles prompted the agency to request military armored vehicles to give agents adequate protection from the 50 caliber rifles and other more powerful weapons the Branch Davidians might have had. Four ATF agents were killed.

On February 27, 1992, a Wells Fargo armored delivery truck was attacked in a "military style operation" in Chamblee, Georgia, by several men using a smoke grenade and a Barrett 50 caliber sniper rifle. Two employees were wounded.

In 1989, two members of a church in Gardner, Montana, who were part of what ATF has described as a "doomsday religious cult," were arrested and charged with federal firearms violations. The two suspects had purchased hundreds of firearms, including ten 50 caliber semiautomatic rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition, using false identification.

Why not reinterpret the 2nd and have zero guns in the streets for private individuals graham4anything Apr 2013 #1
So your goal is to only have zero guns "in the streets"? Why does anyone need a sniper rifle? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #7
So a poster says that guns should be removed from the streets and your response is "Why would anyone EOTE Apr 2013 #19
Are you suggesting that questions should be banned? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #23
I'm suggesting that you have an agenda. EOTE Apr 2013 #26
Everyone has an agenda. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #40
Yours is quite transparent and it's not what you pretend it is. nt EOTE Apr 2013 #44
If you have a logical reason for banning sniper rifles, why not post it? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #49
You were the one who posted teh OP. If YOU have a logical reason for banning sniper rifles, why EOTE Apr 2013 #50
Thank you for the suggestion. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #55
It's a ignorant and deceptive question. EOTE Apr 2013 #57
IMO, people respond with fact-free insults when they are too ignorant to respond with logic. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #60
You haven't presented a single fact in this whole OP. EOTE Apr 2013 #65
he doesn't want debate backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #63
Wrong. And wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #68
I think you responded to the wrong person. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #85
I think that you're right. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #99
Either that or the poster hasn't read your posts to CokeMachine Apr 2013 #110
There is no clear distinction between a hunting rifle and a "sniper" rifle. Threedifferentones Apr 2013 #212
I will agree whole heartedly as soon as we ban all carbohydrates in our food supply galileoreloaded Apr 2013 #31
hahHahhahahahahahahhaha!!! darkangel218 Apr 2013 #128
Mayor Bloomberg, is that you? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2013 #247
This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Apr 2013 #39
You constantly conflate your belief that the second amendment will be reinterpreted onenote Apr 2013 #41
No thanks. nt darkangel218 Apr 2013 #127
You've said this on here a lot. I don't get it. Captain Stern Apr 2013 #174
The goal is law abiding citizens get OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #176
There's some indicatation that firearms are still owned by some of the rich and the Royals in the UK AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #180
What does that have to do with anything? OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #209
Strange. In post #176 which I was responding to, you specifically said "Britain took the guns away." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #218
I explained that you can have a shotgun OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #219
Excuse me, but I did not see any reference to shotguns in post #176 to which I was responding. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #223
You made references to hunting OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #231
Some people believe and spread the mistaken belief that guns are banned in Britain. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #235
You are desperately grasping at straws now OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #240
When someone says that Britain banned guns without qualification, they intend for others to AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #242
I'm only going to say this one more time OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #250
So you admit "except for shotguns." Why didn't you admit that in the first place? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #254
LOL OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #262
No one wants to give you "a coronary". I'm done. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #263
Lighten up, it was a joke OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #267
Wrong. supernaut Apr 2013 #201
He's wrong about that too? Who would have thought? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #204
And you wonder why gun owners scream about rl6214 Apr 2013 #226
Do you want the blunt honest answer? (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #2
Is that an NRA talking point? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #9
No. (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #11
What's the difference between a sniper rifle and a hunting rifle? kudzu22 Apr 2013 #3
I hear that applies to other guns, too. But that's just me. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #15
Not much at all premium Apr 2013 #34
Could it be that isn't a sniper rifle, but is actually a hunting rifle? Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #4
Whatever the percentage, if they account for firearm deaths, shouldn't they be banned? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #10
Since probably every gun made accounts for some percentage of firearm deaths Bake Apr 2013 #52
Wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #56
Then why ban so-called "sniper" rifles? Bake Apr 2013 #58
Find those who want to ban "assault rifles" and you may find those who want to ban "sniper rifles." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #59
No doubt. Bake Apr 2013 #90
If you banned everything that could potentially OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #211
Ah Electric Monk Apr 2013 #92
Wait! That's NRAtalkingPoint™ No.20356. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #17
You're right, of course. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #18
I thought it was No.20355 sylvi Apr 2013 #243
Any good hunting rifle can be used for sniping FarCenter Apr 2013 #5
Low-capacity magazine and bolt-action chambering. Aristus Apr 2013 #6
When hunting game such as deer states limit the capacity of the magazine in ... spin Apr 2013 #29
the dc snipers? DeadEyeDyck Apr 2013 #105
Once again, look at the number of victims with sniper rifles. Aristus Apr 2013 #108
They used an AR-15, not a bolt action deer rifle/sniper rifle. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #133
That's not the rifle the DC snipers used. rl6214 Apr 2013 #227
good point focusing on mass shooters. Another counters the "criminals will always get guns" yurbud Apr 2013 #238
First things first. Robb Apr 2013 #8
So wouldn't it be easier to ban sniper rifles? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #12
It would probably be the most difficult ban possible to enact, actually. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #54
You're right, of course. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #72
Probably not. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #134
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #277
Does that take a clip or is it the kind you pull the handle back? newmember Apr 2013 #13
Good question. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #16
That is a normal bolt-action rifle with a high quality scope. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #135
Internal magazine premium Apr 2013 #51
And what kind of "hunting rifle" did you imagine? oneshooter Apr 2013 #78
Nice wood grain and maybe the person holding it wearing knickers newmember Apr 2013 #107
This plays to the NRA theme- slippery slope BS ksoze Apr 2013 #14
No, that's NRAtalkingPoint™ No.20357. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #20
If they have that many, it must be the 10188 repeat Progressive dog Apr 2013 #126
"...watching some of Wayne," Still sourcing old oaters? Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #230
Sourcing the gun nuts' leaders Progressive dog Apr 2013 #232
Oh, I thought it was Johnny-O. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #233
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #278
I googled sniper rifles , PEOPLE can really buy these newmember Apr 2013 #21
Maybe some people can. Have you seen the prices? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #24
Tell me it's a joke that any person can buy one of these. Please watch this , insane newmember Apr 2013 #27
A rifle is only as good as the person shooting it Nolimit Apr 2013 #36
Building your own is much cheaper.. sir pball Apr 2013 #64
Why shouldnt they be able to? justanidea Apr 2013 #30
Those are sniper rifles not hunting rifles newmember Apr 2013 #32
A rifle is a sniper rifle when it is used by a sniper justanidea Apr 2013 #35
There is no difference in equipment. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #66
Please watch the video I posted newmember Apr 2013 #77
It's just a marketing name. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #80
It's not just a marketing name newmember Apr 2013 #83
Both hunters and military want the same thing - accuracy. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #84
You have no clue at all what you are talking about. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #140
yes I do newmember Apr 2013 #151
Then you would not say 'these are not hunting rifles'. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #162
And where do you think the features they refine for the military and police... krispos42 Apr 2013 #171
Sure any rifle can be used to hunt but when the military asks for a sniper rifle newmember Apr 2013 #172
They already can krispos42 Apr 2013 #173
More lethal than the average hunting rifle? rl6214 Apr 2013 #228
"If it's in 7.62mm NATO, I can go to a gun store ..." Maybe in your area. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #190
I actually went shooting today krispos42 Apr 2013 #199
Years ago, I used to press my own until I had time constraints and just bought off the shelf. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #202
Oooo, can of worms with that one. krispos42 Apr 2013 #210
What, specifically, would you ban about those rifles, without affecting "hunting" or "target" rifles sir pball Apr 2013 #116
That's not a hunting rifle newmember Apr 2013 #152
It's built and sold as such sir pball Apr 2013 #153
Who is the builder and markets that as a hunting rifle? newmember Apr 2013 #157
Dixie Precision Rifles sir pball Apr 2013 #160
Actually, it's an excellent rifle for most game in North America, with perhaps the exception of AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #139
Here's a photo from the web showing an animal in Pennsylvania that might be annoyed. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #147
'Hogzilla' was about 800lbs. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #163
And the difference in your mind is.... ? AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #138
Because that is a hunting rifle. bamacrat Apr 2013 #22
Virtually every deer hunter has a scoped rifle,,,, deaniac21 Apr 2013 #25
I don't. Travis_0004 Apr 2013 #106
Learn something new every day.... ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #124
Its a bit safer wercal Apr 2013 #130
Same thing in Illinois. No rifle hunting. DonP Apr 2013 #155
Unless the rules have changed, I think that hunting with muzzleloaders are legal provided that AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #158
Correct, I know several counties have a ML season. I was just thinking of centerfire rifles. DonP Apr 2013 #159
Because people use them for hunting? nt. TimberValley Apr 2013 #28
if that is chambered in .300wsm backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #33
Does yours have much of a kick? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #37
it does backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #38
if you want kick backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #43
I thought so too, but it's too short to be mine sir pball Apr 2013 #62
Gun Enthusiast Flame Bait. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #42
Since it appears impossible to pass an assault weapons ban ... spin Apr 2013 #45
because he is baiting gun owners backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #46
Wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #47
I'm asking a question. Others can post what they want. I'm not suggesting banning a bolt action AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #48
Especially one that is inherently flawed and dangerous. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #61
Would you only favor banning "sniper rifles" manufactured by a company sued by some of its customers AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #67
This one should have been banned long ago. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #73
Lawn darts are banned? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #75
Yes Savannahmann Apr 2013 #76
They are no longer manufactured. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #82
I own a 700 and Bay Boy Apr 2013 #86
So the obvious question is this. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #89
I did take it to a gunsmith and had it modified... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #95
That trigger has not been made Chuuku Davis Apr 2013 #136
That's reasonable. ... spin Apr 2013 #96
Was a "sniper rifle" used at Newtown? Aurora? Columbine? Bake Apr 2013 #53
Pick the sniper rifle sarisataka Apr 2013 #69
Obviously "C," if you like a 1907 design and you're sniping prairie dogs. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #74
I do sarisataka Apr 2013 #91
. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #70
Because a hunting rifle is a sniper rifle. Rex Apr 2013 #71
I wonder if sneaking up on any of those feral hogs that we hear about would work? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Apr 2013 #79
Nice rifle, don't think i want to pack that around on a hunt pediatricmedic Apr 2013 #81
Good job!! CokeMachine Apr 2013 #87
Thanks, friend. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #100
Back at ya!! CokeMachine Apr 2013 #111
It doesn't take much to impress you, does it? (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #118
You impress me -- hope that makes you feel special. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #121
Lol. The first rifle I ever bought myself was a Remington 700 Xithras Apr 2013 #88
The USMC M40 sarisataka Apr 2013 #93
You may have already seen this. But, if not, more interesting information can be found here: AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #102
That is an interesting link sarisataka Apr 2013 #113
S f AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #115
I can't believe how many DUers think you are baiting Gungeoneers. bluedigger Apr 2013 #94
Thanks. Your comments are appreciated. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #101
The Remington 700 has been around forever and is one of the most popular hunting rifles around 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #97
Handguns would make more sense madville Apr 2013 #98
Strange fascination -- training with sniper rifles. I doubt anyone is going to need to defend Hoyt Apr 2013 #104
Strange fascination -- Seeking to undermine the views of firearm-owning Democrats with insults AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #112
Target shooting for the sake of target shooting. hack89 Apr 2013 #114
I love long-range target shooting, but for reasons you probably literally couldn't understand. sir pball Apr 2013 #117
Sniper rifle induced Zen -- now that is sad. Hoyt Apr 2013 #119
Are bows or swords somehow less offensive to you? sir pball Apr 2013 #122
To keep you happy in your guns, we have to allow the "schmucks" to collect these type weapons. Hoyt Apr 2013 #123
Most of them are shooting at impossibly small circles through iron sites REP Apr 2013 #131
So what would you restrict to eliminate the "sniper"appeal? sir pball Apr 2013 #149
Truthfully, I'd like to see gun cultists start acting responsibly, and become Hoyt Apr 2013 #150
Define "spirit of the law abiding"? sir pball Apr 2013 #156
I think target shooting and playing golf share the same mentality NickB79 Apr 2013 #120
Let's be progressive on the 2A. ileus Apr 2013 #109
I agree. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #129
Anybody think these fucking things should be available... Bigmack Apr 2013 #125
$10K for the gun, $4.50 per round. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #164
"Have at it.."? WTF Bigmack Apr 2013 #165
You are probably over estimating your shooting abilities. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #182
My shooting abilities are not the question... Bigmack Apr 2013 #186
So you want to restrict any rifle in any caliber that is accurate past 1000 yards? hack89 Apr 2013 #189
Man...! This is amazing. Bigmack Apr 2013 #192
It just seems like a silly thing to fixate on hack89 Apr 2013 #195
Fixate..?What the hell is wrong with you..? Bigmack Apr 2013 #203
I am not defending the guns. I am questioning your logic. hack89 Apr 2013 #213
Are you being intentionally obtuse..? Bigmack Apr 2013 #215
But they are not killing people while all those other guns are. hack89 Apr 2013 #216
Any asshole who can legally own a rifle should be able to buy one Joseph Ledger Apr 2013 #168
Jesus Fucking Christ...! Bigmack Apr 2013 #177
Not your grandpappy's .30-.30... Bigmack Apr 2013 #178
There is nothing extraordinary about that rifle wercal Apr 2013 #132
Some think that it is rugged and exceptionally accurate. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #141
Really? wercal Apr 2013 #142
Yes, "Some think that it is rugged and exceptionally accurate." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #148
The Remington 700 is about as well made a production gun as can be bought 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #220
Please define Chuuku Davis Apr 2013 #137
Like "assault" rifle, most folks know what it means. Hoyt Apr 2013 #145
I don't know the difference between the two Jake Izzy Apr 2013 #143
These days that is possible. Traditionally jmg257 Apr 2013 #146
Think it's hard to articulate "Assault Weapons"? It'll be mind-boggling to jmg257 Apr 2013 #144
Why do you give a fck if someone owns a rifle? geckosfeet Apr 2013 #154
Because, if they are mentally ill... Bigmack Apr 2013 #181
no. not really. i don't respond to that kind of fear mongering. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #206
A person like that OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #241
Why not just ban shooting living things with anything? flvegan Apr 2013 #161
Because that would be, well...really dumb. Joseph Ledger Apr 2013 #167
Never heard of a "sniper rifle." That's just a rifle, right? Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #166
You've never heard of a "sniper" rifle? Really? Is that an NRA talking point? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #169
Are you an NRA nut? Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #183
You say, "I will remember the name....mcintosh." Do you scare many people? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #184
Many semi-automatic rifles are used as sniper rifles. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #224
Yes, but the rifle in the original posting is a manually operated bolt action rifle 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #234
Sniper with sniper rifles , hunter with shotgun newmember Apr 2013 #170
These are... sarisataka Apr 2013 #175
Clothes make the difference? Would you be in favor of banning certain types of clothes? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #179
I still haven't heard a reason for owning a sniper rifle newmember Apr 2013 #196
When you become Secretary of Needs, your opinion will matter. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #207
Two things that don't exist except in the mind, Superman and Sniper Rifles 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #236
This fellow had no trouble with using a unscoped rifle. oneshooter Apr 2013 #248
We can't ban all guns at once sandy78 Apr 2013 #185
You are going to ultimately "ban all guns"? You better pack a lunch. It's going to be a while. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #187
Once again...no one needs a gun sandy78 Apr 2013 #188
Actually, millions of Democrats own firearms, including many on this board. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #191
That is an poll from the year 2000 sandy78 Apr 2013 #193
No. It's not. As clearly indicated by Gallup, it is a poll covering 2000 THROUGH 2005. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #194
It's dead Jim... Marengo Apr 2013 #221
Some of the sniper rifles posted in this thread are actually owned by regular citizens newmember Apr 2013 #197
This thread was designed to elicit responses such as yours. Paladin Apr 2013 #198
Thank you newmember Apr 2013 #200
Yep, this OP is billh58 Apr 2013 #205
"(A)n intricate grasp of firearms terminology and functions is not necessary for formulating... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #208
Why don't you remember this: Paladin Apr 2013 #214
Is the "take down a plane" argument not valid? Marengo Apr 2013 #222
Like most sound bites... sarisataka Apr 2013 #229
See what I'm talking about, newmember? (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #245
A poster asked a question sarisataka Apr 2013 #246
In the context used, it is not valid. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #244
That's what I was thinking: The anti-material role of the rifle in question... Marengo Apr 2013 #252
So you are saying that a single shot oneshooter Apr 2013 #249
You say, "Some of these will take down a plane." See # 253 where the guy giving you advice AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #257
This message was self-deleted by its author Union Scribe Apr 2013 #270
Assault Rifles have to go first mwrguy Apr 2013 #217
To clarify, your goal is to prohibit the civilian ownership of firearms? Marengo Apr 2013 #251
To clarify, that is most certainly not my goal. Paladin Apr 2013 #253
This isn't about you. He was responding to #217, "No guns is the goal long term," AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #255
Yeah, well: Sorry I fucked up this lovely thread of yours...... (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #256
This isn't about you. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #258
It's about YOU---and how bad this thread of yours makes you look. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #259
Are you a gun owner? Are you one of those who thinks that gun owners are "gun nuts?" Are you a AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #260
As I mentioned up-thread, I am a long-time gun owner. Paladin Apr 2013 #264
If I was to refer to someone who is a "gun nut," and I don't, I would use the term to refer to AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #265
I hope your gun safety practices are more developed than your insult skills. Paladin Apr 2013 #266
Back to the "NRA" bullshit? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #268
If that is not your goal, then why state "No guns is the goal long term"... Marengo Apr 2013 #271
Absolutely. mwrguy Apr 2013 #269
That's a hunting rifle rl6214 Apr 2013 #225
because you can actually use that for hunting? yurbud Apr 2013 #237
how about crossbows, regular bows, spears, and sharpened sticks? yurbud Apr 2013 #239
.... DeSwiss Apr 2013 #261
This type of rifle is identical to the typical hunting rifle Howzit May 2013 #272
Catch a clue. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #273
No, ban them all at the same time if they have scary adjectives. "Assault" rifles. "Sniper" rifles. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #274
Assault is a verb, not an adjective. Howzit May 2013 #275
No. It depends upon the context. In one context (i.e., "assault" weapon), it is an adjective. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #276
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