General Discussion

dkf

(37,305 posts)

39. Obama thinks like a person interested in getting people off the floor into a better circumstance.

Thu Apr 25, 2013, 11:30 PM

Apr 2013

What he isn't interested in is the person who is okay and striving to be really successful. He thinks some people have "enough".

I'm sorry it's the drive from being okay to being mega rich that employs people. If you can't get those off their duffs and scare them off with 60% tax rates with national and local taxes, you won't get far. The effort has to be worth it. And it's not the tax rate in itself that is scary...it's the thought that all your extra effort will be taxed away to pay for everyone else who "can't afford to pay taxes" which is almost half the country. If you take Obama seriously you have to wonder what is the point.

Bill Clinton got it. I really think we would be out of this funk if he were President.

Equality does not inspire people to work harder than they've ever worked before. It doesn't grow the innovation economy.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

129 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Can we stop with the Paul Krugman posts already? [View all] MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 OP

The Austerians... I mean Austrians... are already attacking Krugman. applegrove Apr 2013 #1

I never doubt Krugman's existence, so I'll go with him! MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #2

My sentiment exactly!!!! citizen blues Apr 2013 #116

Nope curlyred Apr 2013 #3

Stephen Colbert TAKES DOWN Reinhart and Rogoff's AUSTERITY FOREVER Debt Study! KoKo Apr 2013 #4

It worked fine for me zeemike Apr 2013 #30

As only Colbert can.. A great take down.. mountain grammy Apr 2013 #90

I am with Dog all the way. Krugman is a trouble maker. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #5

But I agree with Krugman ... dawg Apr 2013 #69

There is only one Dog that reigns supreme and all others are rhett o rick Apr 2013 #78

The bounty hunter? dawg Apr 2013 #79

If he has a son named Jesus. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #80

I think he has a cousin named Jesus RoccoR5955 Apr 2013 #82

Surrrrrrre. And I suppose he is French. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #83

No, he's from south of the US border somewhere. n/t RoccoR5955 Apr 2013 #98

"Firebagger?" "are you with Krugman, or with God? It's time to choose?" Are You Serious? dballance Apr 2013 #6

Rest assured...."Third Way Manny" is his satiric alter ego abq e streeter Apr 2013 #8

Blowing ever bigger bubbles ozone_man Apr 2013 #7

With respect-God has nothing to do with Economics Robyn66 Apr 2013 #9

What's missing is CONFIDENCE. dkf Apr 2013 #10

The thing is that people just don't understand CONFIDENCE and austerity Dragonfli Apr 2013 #16

Why would government spending inspire people to start a business? dkf Apr 2013 #23

I never said that, I believe that the less money is spent in an economy Dragonfli Apr 2013 #36

Government spending increases orders hence more jobs, increased income tax revenue snappyturtle Apr 2013 #103

I was just being facetious but I am not sure I understand what you are saying. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #106

Horse feathers IrishAyes Apr 2013 #122

And what kind of business would that be? zeemike Apr 2013 #37

First you have to find the money to start it. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #41

That's the way our country developed. Land was cheap. Some of it was simply homesteaded. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #60

+1000 Great post! LongTomH Apr 2013 #92

Well said.. I started a small business for the tourists in my area mountain grammy Apr 2013 #94

Really a TERRIFIC essay, JDPriestly! calimary Apr 2013 #125

I have had clients with businesses based entirely on winning large government contracts. dawg Apr 2013 #72

So if the government is investing in building a new bridge over the Detroit River notadmblnd Apr 2013 #124

Now what do I use to clean the spatter off of this laptop? Fuddnik Apr 2013 #43

depends... is it "confidence splatter" ? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #47

It's already moist with tea spatter. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #88

With all due respect, economic stimulus would probably be first on the list DLnyc Apr 2013 #18

We tried that, hence $1 trillion deficits during the last 4 years. dkf Apr 2013 #24

How much of those yearly budget deficits were a result of economic stimulus? Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #32

We didn't really try very hard. DLnyc Apr 2013 #34

You are very right what is needed are large scale jobs programs. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #52

Those deficits were mostly due to falling revenues, not new spending. dawg Apr 2013 #71

LOL. So how do we increase "confidence" in your opinion? Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #28

The Austerity Fairy and neverforget Apr 2013 #33

Obama thinks like a person interested in getting people off the floor into a better circumstance. dkf Apr 2013 #39

Sorry maybe I wasn't clear Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #45

Obama has only made it more difficult to start a business by giving us confusing laws... dkf Apr 2013 #63

You should write material dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #81

Satire, right? whttevrr Apr 2013 #89

If everyone agreed with this, JDPriestly Apr 2013 #61

Enjoying your family is not what grows a business and is not what will kick this economy into gear. dkf Apr 2013 #62

What grows your business is having customers Fumesucker Apr 2013 #85

Precisely. timdog44 Apr 2013 #100

Why do you think that middle class people work? To be able to provide for their families, JDPriestly Apr 2013 #93

I gotta ask (but you don't have to answer, of course) MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #119

Give the top 0.01% an even larger share of the wealth. nt. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #77

The two age groups most likely to start a new business are people in their 20s and people over 65. happyslug Apr 2013 #31

Right you are. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #56

Not to mention tens of thousands of dollars in debt for tblue37 Apr 2013 #64

Here you go .... dawg Apr 2013 #70

No. sendero Apr 2013 #107

Confidence is a function of aggregate demand. JVS Apr 2013 #108

You're sort of right MFrohike Apr 2013 #123

!! OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #11

Masterful BeyondGeography Apr 2013 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author one_voice Apr 2013 #13

LOL. Well done. Matariki Apr 2013 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author jimlup Apr 2013 #15

Did you know that you can totally remove the word "Krugman" by going SoCalDem Apr 2013 #17

thanks that is really good to know ThomThom Apr 2013 #87

God told me to go with Krugman pennylane100 Apr 2013 #19

The dog ...erm ...Krugman told me to do it. L0oniX Apr 2013 #75

Every woodchuck finds a nut now & then. And be sure to wear gloves taking cats down from trees. nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #20

LOL n/t RainDog Apr 2013 #21

I agree, Milton Friedman is the one and only true God, keynesians are false prophets Dragonfli Apr 2013 #22

There is but one god and it is Friedman zeemike Apr 2013 #40

. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #49

So is Greenspan an archangel? xtraxritical Apr 2013 #54

“Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters, Dragonfli Apr 2013 #57

The US Congress I presume? xtraxritical Apr 2013 #74

No. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #25

ROFL LostOne4Ever Apr 2013 #26

Krugman needs to shave and get a job jsr Apr 2013 #27

Krugman. At least he's real. nt Deep13 Apr 2013 #29

Here ya go: longship Apr 2013 #35

If he was like this, he would have a massive, cult following. LeftInTX Apr 2013 #48

I knew it! Firebagger, EmoProg... AND terrorist! With a beard like Karl Marx. MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #67

I am tired, glad I read to the end before.... nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #38

PK is the only American economist I put ANY trust in whatsoever! Brimley Apr 2013 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author abq e streeter Apr 2013 #44

Robert Reich? nt Deep13 Apr 2013 #46

NAFTA xtraxritical Apr 2013 #55

We would have a trade surplus with Canada and Mexico if we did not import so much oil pampango Apr 2013 #66

Stiglitz? He and Krugman are the only two I read anymore. nt tpsbmam Apr 2013 #110

There you go, messing with my dyslexia again Oilwellian Apr 2013 #50

A good anti-fungal will take care of that right away. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #99

Rec #50 Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #51

K&R thank you Manny! I have to admit my faith was sorely tempted but your post came just in time! idwiyo Apr 2013 #53

My fear is that Thatcher will only be remembered for her miraculous MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #68

lol's you two! Another good one Manny...thanks. KoKo Apr 2013 #73

Manny, I believe you meant to spell that as "hugh." suffragette Apr 2013 #102

I'm a Third Wayer, not a Tea Partier! There's a huge difference! MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #115

Krugman! snot Apr 2013 #58

Oh hell no. donheld Apr 2013 #59

Bravo! nt DLevine Apr 2013 #65

... tosh Apr 2013 #76

And don't forget to give credit to this guy either, he nailed Krugman and all those leftie sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #84

so you have problem with free speech on this site? ThomThom Apr 2013 #86

Of COURSE I'm in favor of free speech!!! MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #96

Poor ignorant warring slaves strengthen rich people jsr Apr 2013 #128

LOL !!! - K & R !!! - Perfect !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #91

I belong ... padruig Apr 2013 #95

Ah, the always provocative irony post Richardo Apr 2013 #97

So, I am less intelligent than you are. timdog44 Apr 2013 #101

more Krugman UNTIL he is listened to by DC politicians mettamega Apr 2013 #104

Krugman is an esteemed professor and a Nobel prize winner. You need to educate yourself. camartinwv Apr 2013 #105

Welcome to DU, camartinwv! tpsbmam Apr 2013 #109

Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #118

Hee. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #111

Sez Who It's Not Who We Are? You're Offering Up A False Choice IrishAyes Apr 2013 #112

I double-dog dare you MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #114

And while I'm at it... IrishAyes Apr 2013 #113

Manny, I'm confused! Choose Krugman OR God? Like they are two different people? tclambert Apr 2013 #117

This is a ridiculous thread .. I am sorry I even started reading it. Go away Manny. YOHABLO Apr 2013 #120

manny, i'm glad it was third way manny. i almost slammed you after the first few lines. robinlynne Apr 2013 #121

^^THIS^^ I am sick and tired of this one note johnny dumping on our JOB CREATORS! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #126

Only after the right wing / DLC/ Third way stop pushing their idiocy, repeal the damage they caused on point Apr 2013 #127

Manny, you are a crusader for justice! CTyankee Apr 2013 #129